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You can't find anything racist I've said, because I haven't said anything racist. You just want to say that to make yourself feel morally superior, because the argument that "people should be able to live wherever they want" is objectively a stupid argument which can't be backed up with any logic.
You seem very insulted at being labelled a racist. On that basis alone, I withdraw my sporting insult. In my experience people who get very offended at being called racist aren’t racist, especially ones whose best friends are Iranian asylum seekers. I won’t deport you if you don’t deport me.
 
You seem very insulted at being labelled a racist. On that basis alone, I withdraw my sporting insult. In my experience people who get very offended at being called racist aren’t racist, especially ones whose best friends are Iranian asylum seekers. I won’t deport you if you don’t deport me.
I am insulted at being called a racist, especially as it's completely untrue and is a completely baseless insult, you haven't been able to find one example of anything racist I've said.

I can see why you want to take the argument in this ludicrous direction though, because the argument that "people should be able to live wherever they want" is indefensible with logic, you would rather label the person calling it out racist.

The idea British people also only have freedom by taking other peoples freedom away is also a bizarre argument you have failed to back up with any logic.

I think your arguments are nuts, because they are.
 
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I am insulted at being called a racist, especially as it's completely untrue and is a completely baseless insult, you haven't been able to find one example of anything racist I've said.

I can see why you want to take the argument in this ludicrous direction though, because the argument that "people should be able to live wherever they want" is indefensible with logic, you would rather label the person calling it out racist.

The idea British people also only have freedom by taking other peoples freedom away is also a bizarre argument you have failed to back up with any logic.

I think your arguments are nuts, because they are.
I did read that when you wrote it earlier. Thanks for the reminder though. Take care
 
Well he made the decision to send more war planes to the region.
He also decided not to get involved.
He then decided to allow American aircraft to use our bases.
Get with the plan ffs.
He didn’t cover for the likelihood of trouble and yet he had nearly 2 weeks Of flipperty flop flop to prep.
Like I said, I get why he felt uncomfortable about this clusterfuck but he left our personnel undefended.
Yes, once the deranged Trump had started a fkg war the PM gets involved but he doesn't play chess with ships/planes/tanks until that point. Why have a Chief of Defence Staff ffs?
 
Entering the second week this is all going rather well for the US. Still dont know what their plan is post air strikes. Israel seem to be doing a decent job on taking out Hezbollah commamders too. Something lebanon have been unable to do.

And Trump is right the US has 11 carrier groups carrying phenominal power. It doesnt need the uk to join in after the heavy psrts of the war have bern fought. Not with our chronically underfunded millitary.
 
Entering the second week this is all going rather well for the US. Still dont know what their plan is post air strikes. Israel seem to be doing a decent job on taking out Hezbollah commamders too. Something lebanon have been unable to do.

And Trump is right the US has 11 carrier groups carrying phenominal power. It doesnt need the uk to join in after the heavy psrts of the war have bern fought. Not with our chronically underfunded millitary.

Well, if he didn't need us, I fail to understand why he is getting so uptight about it.

He really needs to take a history lesson regarding delays in "helping allies out".

And after his comments about our UK veterans in Afghanistan, you know what, fcuk him.

We all know that if this turns out well, he will take all the glory. If it goes to s**t, it will be the fault of us (and others) for not helping.

The guy is deluded and arrogant in the extreme.

And I don't fcuking like him.
 
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So DT says "the war is won".

He also said it only ends when Iran "unconditionally surrenders".

Have I missed Iran surrendering? 🤷‍♂️

And its usually our colonial friends in America that turn up when its pretty much over.

It is 'won' in the way they won in Afghanistan after the initial invasion.
 
Entering the second week this is all going rather well for the US. Still dont know what their plan is post air strikes. Israel seem to be doing a decent job on taking out Hezbollah commamders too. Something lebanon have been unable to do.

And Trump is right the US has 11 carrier groups carrying phenominal power. It doesnt need the uk to join in after the heavy psrts of the war have bern fought. Not with our chronically underfunded millitary.
The US has spent billions of dollars shooting down Aldi- level rockets and drones, and it doesn’t have a supply chain to replace its defensive inventory.Iran has barely got into its supersonic arsenal. US allies in the region are coming under increased fire. And the US killed nearly 200 school girls on day one, and has no plan.

Apart from that it’s going very well, yes.
 
It is 'won' in the way they won in Afghanistan after the initial invasion.
Not even that, because they’ve no boots on the ground. An interesting fact I learned yesterday: this is the longest range war in the history of warfare.
 
Not even that, because they’ve no boots on the ground. An interesting fact I learned yesterday: this is the longest range war in the history of warfare.
If they want boots on the ground they should just move there.
People should be allowed to go wherever they want, remember?
Borders? Pah!
 
He didn’t cover for the likelihood of trouble and yet he had nearly 2 weeks Of flipperty flop flop to prep.
Like I said, I get why he felt uncomfortable about this clusterfuck but he left our personnel undefended.

That is utter rubbish. We already had assets out there and they bolstered them before Trump/Netanyahu played their games with people's lives.


As proven by drones being shot down by RAF planes in the region around the same time. Further, counter-drone teams were in the region and they have hit multiple drones, again around the same time.

I'm not a Starmer fan but please explain why he is a "traitor" as you called him earlier?
 
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Entering the second week this is all going rather well for the US. Still dont know what their plan is post air strikes. Israel seem to be doing a decent job on taking out Hezbollah commamders too. Something lebanon have been unable to do.

And Trump is right the US has 11 carrier groups carrying phenominal power. It doesnt need the uk to join in after the heavy psrts of the war have bern fought. Not with our chronically underfunded millitary.
You seem to be revelling in all this death and destruction. These are people's lives that are being ended and ruined, not some stupid war game
 
An inconvenient truth?

US-Israel attacks on Iran: Death toll and injuries live tracker​

Preliminary figures are 1,332 dead in Iran, at least 11 in Israel, six US soldiers and 11 killed in Gulf states.
 
Taking his cue from the despicable Pete Hegseth …
Ah yes...the Secretary of State for Call of Duty..

Somewhere there is a tree that's whole purpose is to replace the Oxygen he steels every day.

If he had a decent bone in his body, he'd find it and apologise unreservedly.
 
You seem to be revelling in all this death and destruction. These are people's lives that are being ended and ruined, not some stupid war game
This. You would think this is a Marvel film or video game listening to Trump and Hegseth and looking at his post above. Yes, they are trying to dismantle an incredibly oppressive regime but, but it’s all numbers and bluster. No respect for life and no actual medium or long term plan. It’s incredibly depressing.

Watching the draft dodger saluting the returning coffins of US soldiers, while wearing a cheap cap (available to buy from his web store of course), made it all the worse.
 
I'm not a Starmer fan but please explain why he is a "traitor" as you called him earlier?
I’m sorry, but there is such an exhaustive list of this incredibly traitorous scumbags hatred of this country that I won’t distract from this rather interesting conflict conversation.
But just in isolation, This one of many I will note… his pursuance of British Ex-servicemen and women through the courts for bloody years for supposed war crimes is just one tiny facet of his predilection for persecution.
You know he did that work pro-bono don’t you?
What about those 18 terrorists that he represented? That cab rank caseload always seemed to have a fare paying psychopath sat in the back!
Oh, and did I forget about the Rape gang enquiry? You know, the one where they whipped the backbenchers to vote it down yet he abstained in the vote and only complete public outrage forced him to have one?
Chagos?
Chinese super embassy?
Mandelson?
Saville???
OAP’s Winter fuel payment?
Suspending elections?
Islamaphobia obsession?
Smash the gangs?😂
1 in 1 out?😂😂😂
Damn… You made me do it!😂
 
I’m sorry, but there is such an exhaustive list of this incredibly traitorous scumbags hatred of this country that I won’t distract from this rather interesting conflict conversation.
But just in isolation, This one of many I will note… his pursuance of British Ex-servicemen and women through the courts for bloody years for supposed war crimes is just one tiny facet of his predilection for persecution.
You know he did that work pro-bono don’t you?
What about those 18 terrorists that he represented? That cab rank caseload always seemed to have a fare paying psychopath sat in the back!
Oh, and did I forget about the Rape gang enquiry? You know, the one where they whipped the backbenchers to vote it down yet he abstained in the vote and only complete public outrage forced him to have one?
Chagos?
Chinese super embassy?
Mandelson?
Saville???
OAP’s Winter fuel payment?
Suspending elections?
Islamaphobia obsession?
Smash the gangs?😂
1 in 1 out?😂😂😂
Damn… You made me do it!😂
So do you like Starmer or not?
 
I’m sorry, but there is such an exhaustive list of this incredibly traitorous scumbags hatred of this country that I won’t distract from this rather interesting conflict conversation.
But just in isolation, This one of many I will note… his pursuance of British Ex-servicemen and women through the courts for bloody years for supposed war crimes is just one tiny facet of his predilection for persecution.
You know he did that work pro-bono don’t you?
What about those 18 terrorists that he represented? That cab rank caseload always seemed to have a fare paying psychopath sat in the back!
Oh, and did I forget about the Rape gang enquiry? You know, the one where they whipped the backbenchers to vote it down yet he abstained in the vote and only complete public outrage forced him to have one?
Chagos?
Chinese super embassy?
Mandelson?
Saville???
OAP’s Winter fuel payment?
Suspending elections?
Islamaphobia obsession?
Smash the gangs?😂
1 in 1 out?😂😂😂
Damn… You made me do it!😂

Do you mean the Special Forces in Afghanistan:


Or do you mean Iraq:


And on your 18 terrorists thing/cab rank. Read from somebody who actually does the job rather than Telegraph hit pieces:


And you are really bringing up Savile again, really???? Johnson was made to look an idiot over that.

Suspending elections?! You're really stretching and getting desperate.

I can't be bothered with the rest considering it doesn't take much to see past.

You really need to see past the Telegraph/GB news headlines.

Also, as an aside Islamophobia is on the rise:


Although I will ask how you manage to link the winter fuel payment to making him a traitor? That is a bizarre leap.

Using your logic Farage should be in prison already!
 
I see the "successor" has just been announced.

Imagine he'll be having a pretty restless night's sleep tonight, with about an 80% chance of being vaporised before dawn.
Imagine having a job where you dream of the longevity of a Watford manager.

I still don't know exactly who "America's man" is who they want to run Iran. Trumps claims of 'winning' are frankly b*****s until there's a leadership change there which is stable and doesn't send the whole region into meltdown.
 
Imagine having a job where you dream of the longevity of a Watford manager.

I still don't know exactly who "America's man" is who they want to run Iran. Trumps claims of 'winning' are frankly b*****s until there's a leadership change there which is stable and doesn't send the whole region into meltdown.

"America's man" will be whoever lets Trump build a beach resort. ;)
 
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"America's man" will be whoever lets Trump build a beach resort. ;)
It's classic Trump I guess but he's way too ahead of himself claiming he's "won" "winning" etc.

Let's see. Did we "win" when we deposed Saddam Hussein? Or did we just end up sewing the seeds for islamic extremists to take control.

If America has completely taken out Irans nuclear capability it's a win of sorts

There's so many risk factors though. And how can America finger wag at China if they make a move on Taiwan after their moves on Iran and Venezuela.

Getting rid of two evil bastard dictators is one thing but what happens next.
Trump is mistaking winning a battle with winning a war
 
Do you mean the Special Forces in Afghanistan:


Or do you mean Iraq:


And on your 18 terrorists thing/cab rank. Read from somebody who actually does the job rather than Telegraph hit pieces:


And you are really bringing up Savile again, really???? Johnson was made to look an idiot over that.

Suspending elections?! You're really stretching and getting desperate.

I can't be bothered with the rest considering it doesn't take much to see past.

You really need to see past the Telegraph/GB news headlines.

Also, as an aside Islamophobia is on the rise:


Although I will ask how you manage to link the winter fuel payment to making him a traitor? That is a bizarre leap.

Using your logic Farage should be in prison already!
Try as he might, not one of those servicemen and women has been convicted of those offences despite the incessant hounding and repeated court cases.
Yet as PM, this backstabbing weasel demands ‘boots on the ground.’ Boots up his a**e more like.
How any serviceman or woman could trust Mr flip flop in a conflict I don’t know. Our troops doing those politicians dirty work should tell him to FRO.
As for You, you need to stop selling Socialist worker and take your rose coloured specs off.
Starmer is a dangerous quisling finishing off what the Tories started. The establishment running the globalist agenda and this country into bankruptcy all the while skimming off the top.
Oh and by the way, it might just confound you to know that Farage imo is not the answer, he is merely managed opposition. Another snake in a suit pretending he is the saviour.
He is Potentially worse even than that robot in number 10.
It’s a rotten to the core cesspit of liars and grifters in Parliament.
What we need is a modern day Fawkes.
 
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