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Dread to think what might have happened had it been a full house with thousands of Liverpool fans there as well, would have been carnage, knowing how much they love each other.
EPL unscheduled pre match 'entertainment' At Old Trafford ?
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Very similar reporting from Sky at Old Trafford. Gary Neville was particularly outspoken and ably supported by Jamie Carragher. Gary Neville advocating also a complete overhaul of football. Slightly cynical viewpoint maybe but would Sky have allowed the conversation, both in the studio and on pitch side, to continue had they been financing the ESL? As it was, all of the pundits and commentators came out in favour of the supporters protest but clearly opposed to the violent nature and actions of some. It is a shame that some of those "protesting" thought fit to throw flares and full beer cans at people, clearly intent on causing harm and/or damage.
You have all this going on at the moment, re: club/owners greed, money, impact on grass roots, etc etc
Then you have Roy Keane saying Man U need Kane and Grealish and if it costs £200 million, so be it. In his words, whatever it costs.
How does a comment like that really help . All it does is to keep adding to this circus of ridiculous prices and salaries of Premiership footballers and the constant attempts for clubs to find ways to make more money (i.e ESL)
The only way this is going to start to improve is to cull these ridiculous sums of money and start to return some value to fans and move much more money further down the pyramid.
Personally, I couldn’t give a s**t about Man U/Premiership, but I am not blind to the fact that it needs to exist, providing the lower tier clubs feel some real benefit.
Then you have Roy Keane saying Man U need Kane and Grealish and if it costs £200 million, so be it. In his words, whatever it costs.
How does a comment like that really help . All it does is to keep adding to this circus of ridiculous prices and salaries of Premiership footballers and the constant attempts for clubs to find ways to make more money (i.e ESL)
The only way this is going to start to improve is to cull these ridiculous sums of money and start to return some value to fans and move much more money further down the pyramid.
Personally, I couldn’t give a s**t about Man U/Premiership, but I am not blind to the fact that it needs to exist, providing the lower tier clubs feel some real benefit.
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It matters not what people think needs to change it's far too late, The thing that bugs me with all this is Sky/Premier League breakaway started it all off and let's not kid ourselves that if given the chance of a Super League Sky would grab it fast. The words of their presenters and pundits were admirable especially Gary Neville and he makes very valid points.
Where were all these people when Bury Macclesfield etc were going to the wall, did anybody within the media and football in general raise more than a token eyebrow, of course not because the Owners of the big 6 and European neighbours adopted the we're ok thanks attitude and raking in the money.
We now have BT Sport looking to get out and with Disney and Amazon interested who will blow Itv out of the water the whole sorry saga will continue, let's not pretend that all of football stands together because it doesn't now and never will as the Business Owners will continue increasing their Bank Balance and the premier League and it's like will carry on it's merry path until the breakaway and then they'll all wake up but it will be far too late.
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Sky are allowing Neville and Carragher to rip into the ESL because Sky didn't get a ticket to the top table. They still maintain that the Premier League is the best in the world, but only because they're the ones selling it.
Neville makes a lot of good points but his Salford lot have done to non league what Man City and Chelsea have done at the top of the Premier League. They were paying Adam Rooney £4k a week in non league (although I suppose that's better value than 2 Eddie Hutchinsons).
Football has been in a bubble for 30 years. Every year it's got bigger and bigger and it'll go pop at some point. People like Perez at Real Madrid have it a**e about face, saying that they can't afford the top players like Mbappe and Haaland without more money coming in... or maybe it's because they're not actually worth that.
You can't excuse the Man U fans breaking into the stadium and throwing flares at the Sky studio, but you can understand why they're pissed off. The fans in the local community suffer, the ones in Africa and Asia just want to watch the big stars.
Neville makes a lot of good points but his Salford lot have done to non league what Man City and Chelsea have done at the top of the Premier League. They were paying Adam Rooney £4k a week in non league (although I suppose that's better value than 2 Eddie Hutchinsons).
Football has been in a bubble for 30 years. Every year it's got bigger and bigger and it'll go pop at some point. People like Perez at Real Madrid have it a**e about face, saying that they can't afford the top players like Mbappe and Haaland without more money coming in... or maybe it's because they're not actually worth that.
You can't excuse the Man U fans breaking into the stadium and throwing flares at the Sky studio, but you can understand why they're pissed off. The fans in the local community suffer, the ones in Africa and Asia just want to watch the big stars.
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The harsh reality is that those 6 are the pull and have the power, people would have turned on yesterday to watch utd v Liverpool but had it been let's say Burnley v Southampton very few other than fans of those clubs would. There was a time when there was 1 game on now and again but now it's 24/7 and has become overkill and mainly a bore fest. If the scenes from yesterday had been Turf Moor or St Mary's very few would have even noticed or been bothered and would Sky have remained on air waiting for news of whether the game would continue.
in a world of communication how much more impact would the protest of had with United and Liverpool fans stood protesting together shoulder to shoulder and then let the powers that be, Owners Tv companies finally begin to realize that enough is enough and the game has gone from the football fans and they need to act and very fast.
in a world of communication how much more impact would the protest of had with United and Liverpool fans stood protesting together shoulder to shoulder and then let the powers that be, Owners Tv companies finally begin to realize that enough is enough and the game has gone from the football fans and they need to act and very fast.
Quite an “Attacking” formation by the look of it.
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Doubt it as much as we would like it the EPL wouldn’t do that to one of the top 6
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Wonder if Sky will give a refundpostponed ...poor old sky sport 'deprived' of one of their moneyspinners ...
Man Utd v Liverpool off after protest
Manchester United's game against Liverpool is postponed after about 200 fans break into Old Trafford to protest against the Glazers' ownership.www.bbc.co.uk
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Apparently a policeman was slashed in the face by one of those thugs, hopefully he is identified band nicked and sent down for a few years, whereas the rest were their venting their fury outside the ground and not inside the ground.
Another case of the idiotic minority wanting to unleash violence and cause damage and injury.
Hopefully there is sufficient footage to hold them to account.
No one should have been in that stadium yesterday regardless of their motives, so even some of those people milling around doing very little still need to be fined or put on some sort of community service program.
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We weren't playing them. Manchester United were.
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Of course you can't.
It's a fact though that had they raised a petition, or sat calmly outside with placards, nobody would have even noticed.
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Failing to fulfil a fixture should be a hefty points deduction for both teams.
Liverpool have issued an advanced statement saying it wasn`t their fault.
#justicefor86
Liverpool have issued an advanced statement saying it wasn`t their fault.
#justicefor86
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..not appropriate
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Just heard a football fan (of undisclosed team) on the radio state that (to paraphrase), any football fan who doesn't 100% support the 'protest' at Old Trafford can't really be a football fan. He wasn't probed on his opinion, but I assume he felt the violence and vandalism exhibited during the protest was acceptable. Seems I'm not a football fan after all.
