Essexyellows
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Just watching Corbyn spouting BS about "...ism`s" and EID..... Oppps he`s just mentioned antisemitism..
Appointing judges of a political swing is what both sides in the US do - it's just this time it's swung the lean another way. It doesn't make him a fascist as it wouldn't if anyone else did it.Trump's policies are those of an extremist (through mostly convenience for him as I don't think he cares that much being a narcissist unless it benefits him personally) in the main.
Selecting a ultra conservative judge for the Supreme Court who is publically very anti-abortion has laid the groundwork for these state laws. Something Trump has done working with the alt right/Christian ultra conservatives. Yet these same people criticise Islamic countries for similar outcomes!
His decimation of environmental protections is that of an extremist, he is pretty much evangelical with his view on this subject.
His targeting of Islamic countries for travel bans, when his claimed evidence is shown to be utter rubbish, is that of an extremist. His comments/rhetoric about Mexicans being rapists etc are the actions of an extremist.
His trying to ignore the law of the land/checks and balances in the system which mimic the actions of dictators in other countries in trying to get his policies through (ie. Claiming fake "National Emergencies"). This approach seems to follow the approach of those he admires such as Putin etc.
Hang about, that's what he is? And an extremist tooYep Corbyn has just proved he has no speaking ability he was inarticulate and inadequate, rambling around like some kind of rabid left wing loony....
I think you might be getting him confused with the Chinese or most Arab states who we happily deal with , he is an unusual and opinionated politician with some strange ideas but we need to deal with him.Absolutely not! He deserves disdain and rejection and trading off the 'special relationship' history, has to be earned and not assumed. He stands for everything that is atrocious in politics and human rights.
Appointing judges of a political swing is what both sides in the US do - it's just this time it's swung the lean another way. It doesn't make him a fascist as it wouldn't if anyone else did it.
As for the Environment, LOL - Paris was financial and he's not proposing to do anything ultra radical. Some Islamic countries are on a travel ban, most Muslims can travel to the US as before. No issue there, just a lot media hype.
Lots of presidents have created phony emergencies too.
None of it makes him an extremist other than someone who goes the other way to what you'd like and it annoys you that he really doesn't care. Otherwise we can everyone is an extremist or a fascist, or whatever.
Speaking of which. What about when Obama....................
As a general point, the left wing politicians are throwing a good amount of hissy fits. Made my day! Jolly funny
You can appoint a conservative judge without appointing an ultra conservative one which is what Trump did.
I'm talking about environmental laws in the US, not Paris. Try reading up on that and what he has done to the EPA.
He targeted Islamic countries because they are Islamic, that is extremist whether you like it or not. The process of dividing individual groups and creating a them and us divide which is very much what he is doing is a trait of extremists, there are lots of examples. Are you going to defend his comments about all Mexicans etc being rapists/murderers etc? You seem to be trying to defend everything else.
Talk us through those phony emergencies lots of Presidents have created.....
If politicians implement a majority of policies from the extreme end of a political spectrum and seek to target/demonise individual groups of people for the countries ills then yes that is extremism whether left or right wing.
Also, I never said Trump is a fascist, I said he was a narcissist utilizing the religious/conservative right and far right. Note the support from the White Supremacists groups etc and him doing nothing to discourage them/criticise them with the protests about the flag and when a ****** drove into some counter demonstrators.
Wasnt it countries not religion , although of course a whole argument there about extremists and keeping your own country safe.When that choosing who you let in it is based on discrimination (ie. People of a particular religion) it is extremism. I never called him a fascist by the way but did call him a narcissist.
Corbyn has been made to look like a Trotskyist revolutionary. No wonder Trump declined to see him.
And as for Change U.K. what a shambles, now split in two and they still think theyβll change politics
We aren't Americans. I suspect the American Democrats will have to do the persuading rather than a couple of hundred people on a UK football forum. But that doesn't mean (even on here) we should not discuss his views and his fitness for his job. 'Lip wobbling' is a great phrase though!Call him what you want but he was democratically elected in accordance with fair electoral process. If you want rid of Trump and "the Trump mindset", the way to do it is by convincing ordinary voters that they were wrong.
No amount of name calling or lip wobbling can change that fact.
We aren't Americans. I suspect the American Democrats will have to do the persuading rather than a couple of hundred people on a UK football forum. But that doesn't mean (even on here) we should not discuss his views and his fitness for his job. 'Lip wobbling' is a great phrase though!
But Trump is a great pantomime act, lip wobbling included.
So what he appointed an ultra Conservative judge? It's completely irrelevant as someone else will do the same for the left and all of a sudden, the issue will just go away. It's the fact the Supreme Court in the US isn't teetering left for the first time in years that has them worried, but it's not some crime is it? We have the ability to have different views and at times, courts will or won't swing in our favour. There is a real gripe over Mitch McConnell's conduct over stringing the process out under Saint Obama - it was unseemly and wrong - but sadly both sides are as grubby as the other.You can appoint a conservative judge without appointing an ultra conservative one which is what Trump did.
I'm talking about environmental laws in the US, not Paris. Try reading up on that and what he has done to the EPA.
He targeted Islamic countries because they are Islamic, that is extremist whether you like it or not. The process of dividing individual groups and creating a them and us divide which is very much what he is doing is a trait of extremists, there are lots of examples. Are you going to defend his comments about all Mexicans etc being rapists/murderers etc? You seem to be trying to defend everything else.
Talk us through those phony emergencies lots of Presidents have created.....
If politicians implement a majority of policies from the extreme end of a political spectrum and seek to target/demonise individual groups of people for the countries ills then yes that is extremism whether left or right wing.
Also, I never said Trump is a fascist, I said he was a narcissist utilizing the religious/conservative right and far right. Note the support from the White Supremacists groups etc and him doing nothing to discourage them/criticise them with the protests about the flag and when a ****** drove into some counter demonstrators.
I swear he was trolling people when he made that comment about the NHS.But haven't you heard? Trump winning the US election was 'fake news'. It must have been because it was reported on CNN.
Edit - And while on the subject of Trump, glad to see we've 'taken back control' with Brexit. So much control that Trump wants to include the NHS in any super trade deal the US concludes with the UK. Maybe protecting the NHS from big American business should be plastered on the side of a bus?
Well the fact that the Tories are trying to privatise the NHS by the back door is hardly a cause for celebration is it? And it's certainly not a reason to completely bend over backwards to give the rest away to corporate America!I swear he was trolling people when he made that comment about the NHS.
Still, at least no US companies have any access to the NHS at the moment eh?