Championship Tonight's Championship Games - 4th March

 
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So maybe 12 points, where are they coming from?

I think 2 wins for us keeps us up, the bottom 3 look like they cant win more than 2 games that they have left.

I think we'll get points against Hull, Watford, QPR, Cardiff and Swansea as a minimum, including at least 2 wins.
 
I think we'll get points against Hull, Watford, QPR, Cardiff and Swansea as a minimum, including at least 2 wins.
I think we get at least 8 points from those games. Beat Hull or QPR and draw the other, lose to Watford, beat Cardiff and draw against Swansea.
When we play Swansea though they will be on the beach by then so there is no reason why we can’t go there and win.
 
I think we get at least 8 points from those games. Beat Hull or QPR and draw the other, lose to Watford, beat Cardiff and draw against Swansea.
When we play Swansea though they will be on the beach by then so there is no reason why we can’t go there and win.
All of those teams have better form than us though. 3 away games as well when weve only won once all season.
 
Hull spent hugely, I can’t see them going down.

I think Plymouth have blown it, likewise Derby, that third relegation place all to play for.

If we’d have gone for it against Derby who were shite we wouldn’t even be in the equation.
You suggested 3 weeks ago that Plymouth had a sensational transfer window and they would give anybody a game ..........
What's happened 😕???

I believe the bottom 3 are down ,none can gather any momentum & will need a play off push now to survive .

I think the target for survival will be 44-45 points .
 
Hull spent hugely, I can’t see them going down.

I think Plymouth have blown it, likewise Derby, that third relegation place all to play for.

If we’d have gone for it against Derby who were shite we wouldn’t even be in the equation.
Thats Hull down then with Plymouth and Derby.
 
So maybe 12 points, where are they coming from?

I think 2 wins for us keeps us up, the bottom 3 look like they cant win more than 2 games that they have left.
I would go along with that. Would be a big upturn in form from any of them to send us down if we get 2 wins. A win for us at Norwich would put a massive dent in the survival hopes of all 3 of the bottom clubs.
 
I think we'll get points against Hull, Watford, QPR, Cardiff and Swansea as a minimum, including at least 2 wins.

You also said, two months ago, Tyler Goodrham was a £10m footballer destined for the PL, whereas I said he’s a £3-4m footballer destined for the bench, at best, with a top half Championship side. We’ll see who’s right with that in the summer. I’ll disagree again here, I think we will lose three of those five matches but still survive - finishing 20th and topping off a great season back in the Championship.
 
I think we'll get points against Hull, Watford, QPR, Cardiff and Swansea as a minimum, including at least 2 wins.

Sounds a bit mad given how the game went at their place, but I think the Sunderland game is another where we might be looking at points.

Penultimate game of the season, and I'd wager they'll be locked into 4th place by then. Their primary concern by the time they play us will likely be not getting anyone injured before the playoffs.......
 
You also said, two months ago, Tyler Goodrham was a £10m footballer destined for the PL, whereas I said he’s a £3-4m footballer destined for the bench, at best, with a top half Championship side. We’ll see who’s right with that in the summer. I’ll disagree again here, I think we will lose three of those five matches but still survive - finishing 20th and topping off a great season back in the Championship.

Predictions are just that. At the time that I said that Tyler would be attracting interest in the summer was on the back of discussions about him leaving in January. I knew that wasn't the right time for him, but the summer is a different prospect. He has already been scouted by established Championship sides and at least one PL side. His performance has dropped off since his sending off but scouts look beyond day by day form and look at his potential. He still has this in buckets and I would still expect interest in him this summer.
 
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You also said, two months ago, Tyler Goodrham was a £10m footballer destined for the PL, whereas I said he’s a £3-4m footballer destined for the bench, at best, with a top half Championship side. We’ll see who’s right with that in the summer. I’ll disagree again here, I think we will lose three of those five matches but still survive - finishing 20th and topping off a great season back in the Championship.
I wouldn’t call 20th “great” but I take your point!
 
Sounds a bit mad given how the game went at their place, but I think the Sunderland game is another where we might be looking at points.

Penultimate game of the season, and I'd wager they'll be locked into 4th place by then. Their primary concern by the time they play us will likely be not getting anyone injured before the playoffs.......

True. Football being football will undoubtedly throw up some unexpected results and it wouldn’t surprise me either if we got a couple of points from the upcoming home games against Sunderland, Sheffield United or even Leeds. You only have to look at the Plymouth and Hull results against Sunderland and Sheffield United respectively to realise points aren’t impossible against them. We need to play with far more conviction and belief than we did against any of them away from home though.
 
The only problem with Hull winning last night is that’s a nice confidence boost for them, only one game before playing us…

Hopefully Bristol City can do us a favour and hammer them on Saturday, so when we play them in a week there’s a few more doubts creeping in.
 
Prospective Championship Club Wycombe Wanderers had a home attendance of 3,456 tonight as we approach the business end of the season. Gosh.

Has a team second in the third division, in pretty much their best season ever, pulled in such low crowds? Other than the absolutes minnows of former non league teams like Morecambe or Harrogate I don’t think any other clubs in the top four divisions and even some below would get such such low crowds. Their crowds are actually as bad or worse than when they were in the fourth division struggling, all while crowds are up everywhere else.
 
Predictions are just that. At the time that I said that Tyler would be attracting interest in the summer was on the back of discussions about him leaving in January. I knew that wasn't the right time for him, but the summer is a different prospect. He has already been scouted by established Championship sides and at least one PL side. His performance has dropped off since his sending off but scouts look beyond day by day form and look at his potential. He still has this in buckets and I would still expect interest in him this summer.

I take your point although I’m far from convinced. I’m really not sure his form was that great before the sending off, after all he was a nailed on starter in those mid season 15 odd games where we were absolutely dismal and led to Des getting sacked.

The sending off was in January at Exeter under Rowett, we played a lot of football before that where Tyler was ineffective. I think you have to go back to very early season - the Stoke, Norwich, Blackburn games to find matches where he looked a Championship player. The odd assist around Christmas time but he wasn’t a major influence in games then. His form has worsened even more since coming back from the sending off.

I don’t think he’s been helped by perhaps not playing him in his best position - he’s never a wide player in a million years - but it’s the basics that seem to have deserted him. Heavy first touch, misplaced passes, physicality, decision making. Hopefully he can regain some sort of form in these last ten games and help rescue the season for us as a team and him personally, form wise.
 
I take your point although I’m far from convinced. I’m really not sure his form was that great before the sending off, after all he was a nailed on starter in those mid season 15 odd games where we were absolutely dismal and led to Des getting sacked.

The sending off was in January at Exeter under Rowett, we played a lot of football before that where Tyler was ineffective. I think you have to go back to very early season - the Stoke, Norwich, Blackburn games to find matches where he looked a Championship player. The odd assist around Christmas time but he wasn’t a major influence in games then. His form has worsened even more since coming back from the sending off.

I don’t think he’s been helped by perhaps not playing him in his best position - he’s never a wide player in a million years - but it’s the basics that seem to have deserted him. Heavy first touch, misplaced passes, physicality, decision making. Hopefully he can regain some sort of form in these last ten games and help rescue the season for us as a team and him personally, form wise.
His dip in form coincided with the birth of his daughter. Understandably too giving that he is still only 21 himself and the amount of sleepless nights he will be having.

As they say though, form is temporary, class is permanent.
 
Has a team second in the third division, in pretty much their best season ever, pulled in such low crowds? Other than the absolutes minnows of former non league teams like Morecambe or Harrogate I don’t think any other clubs in the top four divisions and even some below would get such such low crowds. Their crowds are actually as bad or worse than when they were in the fourth division struggling, all while crowds are up everywhere else.

That’s ridiculously low for a club in their league position at this stage of the season. I can go back to their non league days back in the 70’s and from memory they were always really well supported back then - that ground near the town centre was often rammed. Very odd that their gates don’t seem to have mirrored their rise as a club.
 
Has a team second in the third division, in pretty much their best season ever, pulled in such low crowds? Other than the absolutes minnows of former non league teams like Morecambe or Harrogate I don’t think any other clubs in the top four divisions and even some below would get such such low crowds. Their crowds are actually as bad or worse than when they were in the fourth division struggling, all while crowds are up everywhere else.

You don't need fans when a Kazakhstani billionaire can buy promotion and then easily build a mid-table Championship squad.

Depressing to see Wycombe and Birmingham buy success.
 
His dip in form coincided with the birth of his daughter. Understandably too giving that he is still only 21 himself and the amount of sleepless nights he will be having.

As they say though, form is temporary, class is permanent.

Ah the much heralded baby !!!! Elliott Moore became a father when he was a couple of years older than Tyler and his form peaked. I’m not buying the baby nonsense, he’s a professional sportsman, his partner can deal with the baby in the night. No new born baby needs its dad at 3am - I’ve been there x 4.
 
His dip in form coincided with the birth of his daughter. Understandably too giving that he is still only 21 himself and the amount of sleepless nights he will be having.

As they say though, form is temporary, class is permanent.
My wife gave birth to our first son when I was 21 . I still had to get up at 4:30 every morning ( except weekends) to go to work so I don’t buy this baby nonsense his form has dropped he needs to rediscover the form of earlier in the season
 
My wife gave birth to our first son when I was 21 . I still had to get up at 4:30 every morning ( except weekends) to go to work so I don’t buy this baby nonsense his form has dropped he needs to rediscover the form of earlier in the season

Ah the much heralded baby !!!! Elliott Moore became a father when he was a couple of years older than Tyler and his form peaked. I’m not buying the baby nonsense, he’s a professional sportsman, his partner can deal with the baby in the night. No new born baby needs its dad at 3am - I’ve been there x 4.
Not every baby/mother/father experience is the same, pretty dense to assume that just because you sailed through it like the hero you are, then that must be the case for everyone.

Anyway, Tyler's first year at Championship level, he's still young so you'd expect his form to be up and down a bit. Still made an assist in the last game and overall this season our most creative player I would think.
 
Not every baby/mother/father experience is the same, pretty dense to assume that just because you sailed through it like the hero you are, then that must be the case for everyone.

Anyway, Tyler's first year at Championship level, he's still young so you'd expect his form to be up and down a bit. Still made an assist in the last game and overall this season our most creative player I would think.

Nothing heroic, it’s just about getting your priorities right. Tyler has the natural ability to secure his families future virtually for life in these next 10 years. Him and his partner have got it all wrong if his form is being affected by a waking baby.
 
Nothing heroic, it’s just about getting your priorities right. Tyler has the natural ability to secure his families future virtually for life in these next 10 years. Him and his partner have got it all wrong if his form is being affected by a waking baby.
Who says his form is being affected by a waking baby? You've made it up so you can pontificate about how superbly you dealt with a situation many years ago.

Maybe it's something else not related to a baby, maybe it's just a natural drop off.
 
Who says his form is being affected by a waking baby? You've made it up so you can pontificate about how superbly you dealt with a situation many years ago.

Maybe it's something else not related to a baby, maybe it's just a natural drop off.

I’m not saying it’s the baby, another poster did. Much more likely to be a natural drop off, as you say, or perhaps just not quite as good as we think he is in terms of a top end Championship level footballer - my view.
 
My wife gave birth to our first son when I was 21 . I still had to get up at 4:30 every morning ( except weekends) to go to work so I don’t buy this baby nonsense his form has dropped he needs to rediscover the form of earlier in the season
ah but if you were an elite footballer would you have been on top form? Just turning up isn’t enough
 
Who says his form is being affected by a waking baby? You've made it up so you can pontificate about how superbly you dealt with a situation many years ago.

Maybe it's something else not related to a baby, maybe it's just a natural drop off.
It was me who said his form has dipped since his girlfriend gave birth.
Now it might be part of the reason for the drop in form or it could just be a coincidence.
 
Not every baby/mother/father experience is the same, pretty dense to assume that just because you sailed through it like the hero you are, then that must be the case for everyone.

Anyway, Tyler's first year at Championship level, he's still young so you'd expect his form to be up and down a bit. Still made an assist in the last game and overall this season our most creative player I would think.
Not a hero just a normal guy looking after his family and yes I agree not all experiences are the same I’ve fathered four boys I can definitely tell you the first baby was by the far the hardest


Anyway let’s hope he rediscovers his form for our sake as well as his
 
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