Board tiger on HMRC -OM report

[uptheus]

Myles did tell us this back in October 2017. What is extremely unclear is what Tiger wants with the club, and if he is in it just for a financial return, how he is aiming to get it.

Using the club as a lever to get land on the cheap and build properties/sports complex, but like the Kassam model the club will not see any of it. Well that’s my guess.

 

[uptheus]

DE sold us to the person that would give him the most money back. I.e. pay for the club, agree to the player asset (whereby money for players who were signed under DE time goes to DE).
Not the person who would be best for the club.

I agree with the comments about Tiger stepping aside. It’s costing more than he thought and it looks like there’s little mileage in a new stadium or cash to be made on the existing dump.

Can we have news please and not historic data!!

 

[Sarge]

Ran in to an acquintance (who is a Plastics shareholder) earlier. He said while tiger is a nice bloke hes a bit of a fantasist and that there was a lot of speculation when tiger was at reading, that it was his sister who holds the purse strings to 'his 'money, .and she doesn't open the purse on demand, as she has the final say ,as in approves ,any outgoings.... if there is any truth in that, it could point to an explanation of sorts for late payments to hmrc ?

 

[uptheus]

Can you explain what this means, or have I missed something?

I think Darryl initially got pissed off with OxVox seemly getting to a stage where they potentially found a solution to purchase the stadium which Darryl was initially asked if he wanted to be part of, but didn’t think it was a priority. And the flag gate saga when it appeared whatever he did (in his eyes) for the club it still wasn’t good enough. So this coupled with a few personal issues he thought f**k this I’m off and st the same time thought I’m looking out for myself.

Unbeknown to him, he would always look out for himself, but when he first came in and gained the effection of the fans etc he probably thought differently e.g. in favour of the club, but with these things and others e.g. Kassam (service issues) he decided to jump ship on his terms! Two faced bastard.

 

[uptheus]

Ran in to an acquintance (who is a Plastics shareholder) earlier. He said while tiger is a nice bloke hes a bit of a fantasist and that there was a lot of speculation when tiger was at reading, that it was his sister who holds the purse strings to 'his 'money, .and she doesn't open the purse on demand, as she has the final say ,as in approves ,any outgoings.... if there is any truth in that, it could point to an explanation of sorts for late payments to hmrc ?

Charlie alluded to that!

 

[Sarge]

Charlie alluded to that!

Maybe there is a bit of substance behind the speculation?

 

[Shaun Rice]

Stepping aside for whom though? Thohir and co. with the financial clout having laid the groundwork, or selling on to someone else?

Who knows certainly not me, I’m not itk. But it was Tiger who said it. Maybe there should be a fans forum.

 

[Cass63]

What about NM, what (apart from a wage) does he get to gain from this shambles. He came here with a good reputation, you would think he’s the person in the know on tigers club finances and would have jumped ship.
Apart from saying ‘ I’ll get back to you on that’ he seems to be wandering around clueless.

 

[Northstandboy]

New Winding order Mr Kassam v OUFC discussion here:

Board - Winding up order served by Kassam

yellowsforum.co.uk

 

[westyorkshireexile]

Ironic isn't it, that tomorrow, we play the very team whose collapse led to us being promoted to the league 57yrs ago.

 

[Golden Dr Otto]

Four in a row
Four in a row...

Etc etc

 

[yellowbow]

Very good article. Well done OM for writing it.

https://www.Oxfordm**l.co.uk/sport/...QrF9CcKQv4atObz-wsDHt5z4NbacPeqqvy-V9axZnc9v8

 

[yellowbow]

https://www.Oxfordm**l.co.uk/sport/...aV84VgKb4wluW7u-YYAt7ojyI1qY9VGEtgAfI0JqJirSY

 

[yellowbow]

Interestingly not a peep on RO while I was listening on my way to work this morning. Im a bit surprised at that, it’s quite a significant milestone in the clubs history and, as the OM article shows,there’s plenty that they could get their teeth into. Even a fans phone-in, letting people air the grievances would have been a good idea. I do have to wonder if they’ve got a little bit too cosy with the current regime.

 

[makv]

Well well, journalism is alive and well at the Oxford Mail after all…

 

[Sith Lord]

Interestingly not a peep on RO while I was listening on my way to work this morning. Im a bit surprised at that, it’s quite a significant milestone in the clubs history and, as the OM article shows,there’s plenty that they could get their teeth into. Even a fans phone-in, letting people air the grievances would have been a good idea. I do have to wonder if they’ve got a little bit too cosy with the current regime.

Do you know it feels eerie, I get the feeling as mentioned before any dissent and we are told to Shhhh you got all the Media outlets telling the fan base to temper your voices, the Manager still backing the Chairman even though it is obvious he's doing more than the job spec, and the fact he's cocky enough to say he will not be sacked if we get relegated.

It's like relax they are minted but please do not upset them!

It's like something from Wallice & Grommit : The Curse of the Were-Rabbit.
That must be a fu*cking big carrot behind the scenes!

 

[Sarge]

Yes, good report in the Oxford Mail. The following paragraph hits the nail on the head:

While there have been areas of progress, it has been a period remembered for vague promises, winding-up petitions and too few victories. It is a toxic concoction which has given rise to the feeling of a club drifting away from its fanbase, almost unrecognisable from the upwardly mobile outfit from just a couple of years ago.

So yesterday I was getting concerned about the apparent censorship of views around OUFC. It seemed the local media was being 'got at', but it's now apparent that the Oxford Mail, at least, is maintaining its independence.

There was also a suggestion that a poster on here was 'warned' not to be too negative on the forum as the club read posts. Seems this was harmless advice rather than any sort of gagging attempt. Happy to put that right.

So two censorship issues at least partially resolved, but we still await the minutes from the OxVox committee meeting of Tuesday night (I think it was). Hopefully those minutes will expose any attempt by OUFC to stop committee members commenting freely, or confirm there was no such attempt.

Oxvox committee met on Wednesday evening @Pete Burrett

 

[Hackney Jack]

Respect to the Oxford Mail for putting this out there now.

Am I the only one that felt sick to the pit of my stomach reading the KR interview ("it's amazing talking about new grounds, stadiums and changing mentality")? I've felt for the last few weeks that the club is in some sort of tailspin nightmare, and we're constantly being told to wait, and that all will come good because we've good solid people around us, and that Kr and Tiger are doing a good job, and learning from a few things they've not quite got right.

Well, we had an atrocious summer transfer window, were promised a recovery transfer window in January, four winding up orders.

But still Kr and Tiger tell us not to worry?

I think I've got this wrong, but have we won something like ten league games in a year under Kr?

I just can't figure any of this out anymore.

 

[Hackney Jack]

Respect to the Oxford Mail for putting this out there now.

Am I the only one that felt sick to the pit of my stomach reading the KR interview ("it's amazing talking about new grounds, stadiums and changing mentality")? I've felt for the last few weeks that the club is in some sort of tailspin nightmare, and we're constantly being told to wait, and that all will come good because we've good solid people around us, and that Kr and Tiger are doing a good job, and learning from a few things they've not quite got right.

Well, we had an atrocious summer transfer window, were promised a recovery transfer window in January, four winding up orders.

But still Kr and Tiger tell us not to worry?

I think I've got this wrong, but have we won something like ten league games in a year under Kr?

I just can't figure any of this out anymore.

I'll just add to that that Kr is in a massively difficult situation I'm sure, and is doing what he can to keep things going as best he can, and keep his job. As the Ox Mail says, other chairman would've got rid by now. Not easy, and the blame defo starts at the top (tiger).

 

[OX18]

I thought it was a well written article. After Natham’s comment about the fans should not dare to raise their voices. It has been well documented that Dave Pritchard from the Mail often shares a car on away trips with the Radio Oxford team. Interesting that he is prepared to come clean, while the other local media steer away from upsetting the powers that be. Hats off to him anyway, The Swindon Advertiser were banned from the County Ground for years for daring to raise concerns.

 

[Northstandboy]

What did Nathan say? totally missed this!

 

[Morris Oxford]

Why is it left to KR having to defend Thanakarnjanasuth and the off field shambles?

 

[Sith Lord]

What did Nathan say? totally missed this!

After the Stanley game, and depends on your interpretation.

I took it as calm yourselves with venting your frustrations and online, another interpretation was maybe he meant about the abuse Mixter took..
But as he never mentioned Mixter directly I take it calm it towards Tiger etc..

 

[DannyW]

What did Nathan say? totally missed this!

Listen to pre match for Tues on radio ox 25 mins into 28 mins

 

[myles]

Hopefully those minutes will expose any attempt by OUFC to stop committee members commenting freely, or confirm there was no such attempt.

OxVox did say that they hoped to have a statement out by the weekend and I, for one, think it's important that this happens.

 

[Northstandboy]

OxVox did say that they hoped to have a statement out by the weekend and I, for one, think it's important that this happens.

I hope they have not been censored by the club...

 

[myles]

I hope they have not been censored by the club...

I have no reason to believe that is the case, but if that were to happen, any pretence of being an independent supporters' trust would be gone. In the current situation, any attempt at censorship by the club should be met with a firm rejection.

 

[MJB]

The Swindon Advertiser were banned from the County Ground for years for daring to raise concerns.

Is that necessarily a bad thing?

 

[Banbury2018]

I am not going to go over the past year except to say that some things have been done well but financially on certain important things and communication as well as first team need drastic improvement.
I see the next year and maybe even the next 6 months as possibly the most important in our clubs history. The summer transfer window has to be a lot better no matter what league we are in. More important as I see it is the ground situation and this is why Thohir and Gieke are here. I think they see in Thohir’s case it’s investment and things around a new stadium possibly with Indonesssian cultural centre allied similar to Dc United stadium in Washington and Gieke’s case it is investment/construction. I am guessing by the time Indonesian elections are over we will be a lot closer to knowing the preferred site. If it progresses I think we will see more of them and if not they will disappear. They gain as do Oufc but if things don’t progress league 1 is as good as it will be.

 

[AbbeyOx]

sums it up really well. interesting times