National News The YF Conservative Leader - Part 97

[Essexyellows]

Here we go again.............

I`m not sure either of my preferred pair will get through to the Membership vote.

 

[Sarge]

Thing is I wouldnt vote for any of them. Ever.

to ensure the tories stay out of government for at least another term any of Patel, Cleverly, Jenerick would be a good bet , all are tainted by Johnson, Truss and Sunak's tenure

Admittedly I know nothing about both Stride & Badenoch

Tugendhat may be the best option to stablise what is left of the tory party, at best an interim leader, after all he's not an Oxford man/ person

( 31 of 58 British PMs have been Oxford educated, of the 17 Post war- WW2- PMs 14 have been Oxford educated)

 

[Marked Ox]

If it is Priti Patel, James Cleverly or Mel Stride then set up for a very long stint in opposition. Jenrick will appeal to some Tory members/voters but I not sure if he could turn around the Tory Party.

Tom Tugendhat is probably the best of that bunch but it'll end up being Kemi Badenoch.

Has Suella ditched the Tories yet to go to Reform?

 

[lodeyellow]

I wouldn’t vote for any of them either.

I reckon that the field will be whittled down to Badenoch and Patel.

Cleverly and Stride will be eliminated fairly quickly, followed by Tugendhat and Jenrick.

 

[Carpy]

Pretty uninspiring list really.

 

[stokeu]

Desperate that that is the best they can muster.

 

[holdsteady]

Hopefully the Conservative Party dies, so whoever makes that more likely to happen. Then the same can happen to the Labour Party and we can start again, two bald men arguing over an empty tub of brylcream.

 

[Marked Ox]

Thing is I wouldnt vote for any of them. Ever.

to ensure the tories stay out of government for at least another term any of Patel, Cleverly, Jenerick would be a good bet , all are tainted by Johnson, Truss and Sunak's tenure

Admittedly I know nothing about both Stride & Badenoch

Tugendhat may be the best option to stablise what is left of the tory party, at best an interim leader, after all he's not an Oxford man/ person

( 31 of 58 British PMs have been Oxford educated, of the 17 Post war- WW2- PMs 14 have been Oxford educated)

Stride is on a par with Cleverly or Patel. He kept going on that a Labour Govt would mean a one Party Socialist state whenever he was interviewed on Politics Live. To the point the presenter (Jo something) and all the other guests each time (he was on a lot), including right wing commentators, laughing at him for it as being ridiculous.

 

[Peterdev]

A pretty dire list. Badenoch will probably appeal to most of them. No doubt I’d think the others will have senior jobs. Cleverley probably the sensible option but can’t see him as an inspirational leader rallying the troops as Boris did

 

[Marked Ox]

A pretty dire list. Badenoch will probably appeal to most of them. No doubt I’d think the others will have senior jobs. Cleverley probably the sensible option but can’t see him as an inspirational leader rallying the troops as Boris did

Whomever wins, they'll likely be the equivalent of William Hague. Although, the quality is nowhere near even William Hague.

 

[Canterburyexile]

All s**t options. Much as I delight in seeing the conservatives thus affected I really do hope they manage to get an adult in charge who can stabilise their core support, normalise moderate right wing politics and prevent Farage and his bunch of goons from from sweeping up too many disaffected little Englanders.

I am not very hopeful though.

 

[Essexyellows]

Pretty uninspiring list really.

Not many to choose from TBF.

 

[Oxford57]

You can hardly use the term statesmanship to any of those, mind you the same applies to the Labour lot as well

 

[Whingit]

Badenoch would be a gift to Labour. She's obsessed with hatred and culture wars and the fact that before leadership was on the cards and she was a minister, she was big into trans rights and other liberal things, only to turn a full 180 shows that she has no principles. Will be an awful party leader.

 

[Emilio]

Misunderstood the thread title, and thought it was a discussion about which YF member would be most likely to be elected as leader of the Tories.

Now that Charlie salmon-trousers doesn't post on here any more, I wonder who would be front of the queue?

 

[Mojofilter]

Misunderstood the thread title, and thought it was a discussion about which YF member would be most likely to be elected as leader of the Tories.

Now that Charlie salmon-trousers doesn't post on here any more, I wonder who would be front of the queue?

I reckon one of those chinese bots that keep posting threads about universities could be in with a shout

 

[Canterburyexile]

You can hardly use the term statesmanship to any of those, mind you the same applies to the Labour lot as well

It seems like just being a grown up, not being a massive c**t, having a few principles and being pretty honest will do.

And I think it will for now.

Starmer will make mincemeat of that list the OP posted. And so he should. I do want an effective opposition to hold labour to account. No-one on that list comes remotely close to that.

 

[boogaloo]

Tom Tugendat seems the best out of this sorry bunch. Maybe boring, like Starmer - but that's a good thing. I'm sick and tired of all this Boris Johnson/Donald Trump "Ooh look at me. Me me, me me, me!". It's time to get back to doing what you are paid to do - running the country, rather than trying to be some sort of celebrity.

And that includes those bell-ends Nigel Führage and 40p Lee*.


* The 30p moniker came before Liz Truss trashed the economy. We have to allow for inflation

 

[Eric Blair]

Misunderstood the thread title, and thought it was a discussion about which YF member would be most likely to be elected as leader of the Tories.

Now that Charlie salmon-trousers doesn't post on here any more, I wonder who would be front of the queue?

Great question. @Essexyellows surely. A thinking man’s Tom Tugendhat.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

Most sensible choice would be Tugendhat, but it’ll be Badenoch. She’ll make the mistake of chasing the Reform defectors, when it’s the more centre-minded voters who switched to the Lib Dem’s across the south who are easier to win back, as well as being more valuable.

None of them will win the next election.

Had Sunak not left D-Day early and lost her seat as a result, it would’ve been Penny Mordaunt.

 

[Mojofilter]

Lots of confidence for Badenoch, I can see her losing an election even worse than rishi

Although, the conservative's main skill has always been ruthlessness so if she did win I'd expect her to stay until approx 9 months before the next election when they'll parachute someone else in and blame all previous sleaze on her

 

[OxfordBoy]

Badenoch seems most likely, as said though I can’t see her appealing to many

 

[Mojofilter]

Great question. @Essexyellows surely. A thinking man’s Tom Tugendhat.

I don't believe thinking men either want or need a tom tugendhat

 

[Scotchegg]

The Tories need to win back 200 seats in order to return to power, and they won't be won from the right. They must return to the more traditional Tory ground on the centre right, but adapt to meet the needs of the modern electorate. Sadly, and I mean sadly as every Government needs a strong and reliable opposition to keep it honest, sadly, none of these candidates are good enough.

Tom Tugendhat is probably the best of a bad bunch to unite the party, and should enable them to claw back some of the ground lost to the Lib Dems. They should be looking to target 200 seats to give them a base to look towards power in 2034. However, they will almost certainly pick Kemi Badenoch who will divide the party and further distance the Tories from everyone but those who voted Reform. This will only split that vote and will see nothing more than a handful of extra seats at best and will waste another 5 years.

I think that the reality is that the next Tory Prime Minister hasn't been elected yet, and the next Tory Government will have to be very different from anything we have seen before. And neither will happen before 2039 unless their is a national crisis or Labour completely implode.

 

[Morris Oxford]

Pretty uninspiring.

My guess is Badenoch and Tugendhat to go forward, but quite frankly who knows with the current Tories.

The best leader of the opposition who will make life awkward for the government, can hold it to account and is good at the dispatch box is not necessarily the same person who can appeal to the whole country and win an election.

Who would Labour/Starmer least prefer to be up against week in week out. I suspect that might be Badenoch, but I’m not sure she can win a GE, but then again who from that list likely could?

Patel would be the Tory equivalent of choosing Corbyn, useless in opposition, useless as a leader and unable to win a GE.

 

[Marked Ox]

I no longer think Tom Tugendhat is the best of a bad bunch after this. Somehow he has fallen behind the likes of Priti Patel. The ballot was taken back in June but the result has only just been announced. He clearly isn't learning lessons. And it isn't even good politicking when the 'patients' have faced record waiting lists and significant trouble in just seeing a GP under a Tory Govt he was part of:

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

Most sensible choice would be Tugendhat, but it’ll be Badenoch. She’ll make the mistake of chasing the Reform defectors, when it’s the more centre-minded voters who switched to the Lib Dem’s across the south who are easier to win back, as well as being more valuable.

None of them will win the next election.

Had Sunak not left D-Day early and lost her seat as a result, it would’ve been Penny Mordaunt.

Exactly this Ryan

Reform will get stronger and I expect Braverman and a few others to join them. All that will do is split the right wing vote.
What they need is a centrist politician who can get votes back from the Lib Dem’s whilst appealing to the rest of the party to unify.

 

[werthersoriginal]

My friend’s daughter went through a phase of marching around asking people things like ‘Would you rather eat hot dog poo, or die?!’ This thread just reminded me of her for some reason.

 

[PottersRightBoot]

Badenoch or Cleverly.

 

[m]

Oh God.

Someone tell me they're not going to be allowed to choose their own leader again.

They're really, really bad at that.