New Stadium The Triangle - Planning (S106 Submitted)

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S106 Draft Submitted

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Target SoS Decision Date: SoS Go-Ahead Given 15th Oct



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And the millionaire members of FOSB are using vital resources at a legal charity to try and undermine what will be one of the most environmentally friendly stadiums ever built.

'We exist primarily to help socially and economically disadvantaged communities which want to address their concerns, but lack the resources or information to do so'

Just how socially and economically disadvantaged is North Oxford? Shameful.

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Shameful that. They should be funding it themselves
 
IH was the one of the main local politicians trying to secure us land for anew stadium before Stratfield Brake (and then the Triangle) came on board.

Irrespective of his politics, a real shame that he won’t get to see us in our new stadium - sadly the repeated delays have meant others, including members of my family, will never get that joy too.
 
IH was the one of the main local politicians trying to secure us land for anew stadium before Stratfield Brake (and then the Triangle) came on board.

Irrespective of his politics, a real shame that he won’t get to see us in our new stadium - sadly the repeated delays have meant others, including members of my family, will never get that joy too.
I wonder how many people won't get to see the new stadium because of those few selfish bastards ?
 
Not really stadium related
Cllr Ian Hudspeth has passed away
Supporter of the club.
Did what he could to get us a new stadium

I was both shocked and saddened when I heard this yesterday.

Make no mistake, Ian was a huge help in the early days of our search for a new stadium. He was head of the County Council when I first dealt with him, and couldn't have been more helpful. I'm not a Conservative, but that didn't matter, all he wanted was what was best for Oxford United. After he lost his seat he still continued to help however he could.

As others have said, it's such a shame he won't get to see us play there, partially due to the delaying tactics of the anti stadium brigade. He was a staunch supporter of the club, a genuine fan who wasn't in it for political gain, and he hated Middleton, so one of the good guys.

RIP Ian, have a red wine up there with the Bald Eagle.
 
Sadly, there will be a few.

Very sad to think about. McIvor, Middleton, Campbell, Ward, Soheili, Hill, Gant etc ought to hang their heads in shame

Add McLean, Walker, Robey and Levy to that extensive list of councillors who have no community spirit or affiliation to the ordinary everyday folk of their wards whatsoever. The biggest cause of delays was Callum Miller who repeatedly kicked the can down the road until after the general election at which he was elected as an MP.
 
Add McLean, Walker, Robey and Levy to that extensive list of councillors who have no community spirit or affiliation to the ordinary everyday folk of their wards whatsoever. The biggest cause of delays was Callum Miller who repeatedly kicked the can down the road until after the general election at which he was elected as an MP.
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It is what it is.
What ultimately matters is that the agreement is right for the club. The financial obligations, ongoing liabilities, and conditional requirements tied to the stadium must be sustainable, proportionate, and aligned with Oxford United’s long-term future. A poorly structured agreement would not just undermine the project; it would put the club itself at risk.
In a typical planning application, a developer is largely dealing with a single planning authority, with other consultees feeding into that process through standard conditions or technical approvals. That is not the case here.
Alongside Cherwell District Council as the determining authority, Oxford United must also reach binding, workable agreements with Oxfordshire County Council and Chiltern Railways, each of whom has separate statutory responsibilities, commercial interests, and approval processes. All three parties are rightly seeking outcomes that protect their own positions.
The complexity arises because this is not a straightforward, bilateral negotiation. The club is required to align the expectations of three separate organisations, operating under different legal frameworks, priorities, and risk thresholds, into a single, coherent set of obligations.
That complexity should not be mistaken for delay or indecision. It is the unavoidable consequence of ensuring that the final agreement is robust, lawful, and financially viable — particularly for the club that will be responsible for funding, delivering, and operating the stadium for decades to come.
 


Price of football podcast if you dont want to listen to it all stadium talk starts around 25 minutes in

Interesting listen
One thing that annoys me great that tim Williams puts the view out there and gets us out there
But why cant the club do this have an hour interview with him so all us fans can listen
 


Price of football podcast if you dont want to listen to it all stadium talk starts around 25 minutes in

Interesting listen
One thing that annoys me great that tim Williams puts the view out there and gets us out there
But why cant the club do this have an hour interview with him so all us fans can listen

arent we due a FF?- though cant see that happening until well after a new manager/coach is installed
 
Dear God kpc you are embarrassing and clueless


This is not a negotiated S106 schedule.
It is an internal email from the Chair of Kidlington Parish Council, forwarding ideas and aspirations to the Parish Clerk, with comments from OCC officers explicitly warning that most of it is not lawful S106 material



That distinction matters.
The Core Legal Problem (and it’s fatal)
Under Regulation 122 of the CIL Regulations, every S106 obligation must be:
Necessary to make the development acceptable
Directly related to the development
Fairly and reasonably related in scale and kind
Large parts of this proposal fail all three tests.

1. Planters on Highway Verges
Problem:
OCC explicitly states they are unlikely to accept planters on public highway land because it would make OCC liable for maintenance
Kidlington PC response to S106.pdf None
Why this collapses:
If OCC won’t adopt them, they are not highway mitigation
If they’re not highway mitigation, they cannot be justified as necessary for the stadium
“Indiscriminate parking” ≠ developer-caused harm unless evidence shows stadium-specific causation
This is a visual deterrent policy preference, not mitigation.

2. ANPR at Exeter Hall, Cemetery & Curtis Way

Problem:
OCC states clearly:
The land is not OCC land
OCC cannot operate the cameras
Even legality is uncertain and should be checked with CDC legal

Why this fails:
S106 cannot fund general parking enforcement infrastructure
Especially where:
Sites are unrelated to the stadium
Operation responsibility is unclear
No costings exist
No evidence of stadium-only impact exists
This is retrofitting a control regime, not mitigating development impact.

3. “Public Realm” and “Public Art” Contributions

Problem:
No locations, no projects, no cost breakdown, no nexus.
Why this fails:
S106 cannot be a blank cheque for aesthetic upgrades
Contributions must be defined, costed, and causally linked
“Pressure on public realm” is asserted, not evidenced
This would be struck out instantly at appeal.

4. 10-Year Maintenance Paid Directly to KPC
This is the most revealing part.
Why it’s unlawful:
S106 funds cannot be diverted to parish revenue streams
Maintenance obligations must sit with:
The landowner, or
The adopting authority (usually OCC or CDC)
KPC has no statutory role justifying receipt or control of funds
This reads like a grant request, not a planning obligation.

5. CPZ Extension to 3km

Even OCC admits:
“I really do not know how a private funding agreement for CPZ permits would work… check legality”

That’s civil-service speak for:
“This probably isn’t legal.”
CPZs:
Are governed by traffic regulation law
Require statutory consultation
Cannot be pre-bought or guaranteed via S106
The Precedent Argument Is Misused
Yes, other stadiums had S106s.
No, that does not justify this list.
Those examples:
Funded specific, evidenced impacts
Were negotiated with competent authorities
Did not hand blank cheques to parish councils
Listing Chelsea, Wembley, Wimbledon etc. without equivalent causal evidence is planning theatre, not planning policy.
The Unavoidable Conclusion
This document shows:
KPC knows these items are not highway mitigation
OCC warned about legality and adoption
Costs are guessed
Evidence is absent
Nexus is weak or non-existent
In short:
This is an attempt to use the stadium as leverage to fund long-standing parish ambitions.
That is precisely what S106 law exists to prevent.
 
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Dear God kpc you are embarrassing and clueless


This is not a negotiated S106 schedule.
It is an internal email from the Chair of Kidlington Parish Council, forwarding ideas and aspirations to the Parish Clerk, with comments from OCC officers explicitly warning that most of it is not lawful S106 material



That distinction matters.
The Core Legal Problem (and it’s fatal)
Under Regulation 122 of the CIL Regulations, every S106 obligation must be:
Necessary to make the development acceptable
Directly related to the development
Fairly and reasonably related in scale and kind
Large parts of this proposal fail all three tests.

1. Planters on Highway Verges
Problem:
OCC explicitly states they are unlikely to accept planters on public highway land because it would make OCC liable for maintenance
Kidlington PC response to S106.pdf None
Why this collapses:
If OCC won’t adopt them, they are not highway mitigation
If they’re not highway mitigation, they cannot be justified as necessary for the stadium
“Indiscriminate parking” ≠ developer-caused harm unless evidence shows stadium-specific causation
This is a visual deterrent policy preference, not mitigation.

2. ANPR at Exeter Hall, Cemetery & Curtis Way

Problem:
OCC states clearly:
The land is not OCC land
OCC cannot operate the cameras
Even legality is uncertain and should be checked with CDC legal

Why this fails:
S106 cannot fund general parking enforcement infrastructure
Especially where:
Sites are unrelated to the stadium
Operation responsibility is unclear
No costings exist
No evidence of stadium-only impact exists
This is retrofitting a control regime, not mitigating development impact.

3. “Public Realm” and “Public Art” Contributions

Problem:
No locations, no projects, no cost breakdown, no nexus.
Why this fails:
S106 cannot be a blank cheque for aesthetic upgrades
Contributions must be defined, costed, and causally linked
“Pressure on public realm” is asserted, not evidenced
This would be struck out instantly at appeal.

4. 10-Year Maintenance Paid Directly to KPC
This is the most revealing part.
Why it’s unlawful:
S106 funds cannot be diverted to parish revenue streams
Maintenance obligations must sit with:
The landowner, or
The adopting authority (usually OCC or CDC)
KPC has no statutory role justifying receipt or control of funds
This reads like a grant request, not a planning obligation.

5. CPZ Extension to 3km

Even OCC admits:
“I really do not know how a private funding agreement for CPZ permits would work… check legality”

That’s civil-service speak for:
“This probably isn’t legal.”
CPZs:
Are governed by traffic regulation law
Require statutory consultation
Cannot be pre-bought or guaranteed via S106
The Precedent Argument Is Misused
Yes, other stadiums had S106s.
No, that does not justify this list.
Those examples:
Funded specific, evidenced impacts
Were negotiated with competent authorities
Did not hand blank cheques to parish councils
Listing Chelsea, Wembley, Wimbledon etc. without equivalent causal evidence is planning theatre, not planning policy.
The Unavoidable Conclusion
This document shows:
KPC knows these items are not highway mitigation
OCC warned about legality and adoption
Costs are guessed
Evidence is absent
Nexus is weak or non-existent
In short:
This is an attempt to use the stadium as leverage to fund long-standing parish ambitions.
That is precisely what S106 law exists to prevent.
Sounds like the toys have well and truly exited the pram
 
Merry Christmas to everyone who regularly visits this thread and of course those who have worked so hard to save our club!

It appears that now we are in the relegation zone, the argument is that the new stadium will be too big for the club. Funny how 18 months ago it was too small.

Seasons greetings to you all. Lumps of coal and cowpats for the opposition.
 
Merry Christmas to everyone who regularly visits this thread and of course those who have worked so hard to save our club!

It appears that now we are in the relegation zone, the argument is that the new stadium will be too big for the club. Funny how 18 months ago it was too small.

Seasons greetings to you all. Lumps of coal and cowpats for the opposition.
And a merry Christmas to you bob
Abd a merry Christmas to all my readers 🤣🤣
 
Happy Christmas everyone. Up at 6am to put the 6hr turkey in the oven and hang up the kids’ Christmas Stockings.
Let’s hope it’s a great couple of days, weeks and months.
I know what I want for Christmas (does anyone have any 2km triangular wrapping?).
 
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