New Stadium The Triangle - Planning (S106 Agreed)

[SteMerritt]

 

[MJB]

20 years is quite rapid for the Spanish, they've been known to take over 100 years to build a church.

Sounds familia.

 

[RBNO]

i suggest suzy and co read friends of the earth website on the solar issues

Fact check: British farming and renewables | Policy and insight

Friends of the Earth's Sandra Bell makes clear: climate change threatens British food security, not solar farms. Using under 1% of UK farmland, renewables leave room for both energy and agriculture. Agrivoltaics let crops thrive under panels and wind farms can diversify farm incomes. The...

policy.friendsoftheearth.uk

 

[Concretebob]

Sounds familia.

That kind of humour is far too high brow for us football fans, can you make a joke about pissing in a garden or something?

 

[trainingcone]

I saw this list of names months ago so I have been going through it
going through the 240 names who endorsed Kidlington Development Watch’s 2025 Local Plan submission, and there are some interesting overlaps.
Important caveat first: this is not a FoSB membership list. KDW itself says the names are people from its mailing list or website who agreed to endorse that particular submission. So appearing on it does not prove somebody is a member of KDW or FoSB.
What it does show is how large and longstanding the wider campaigning network around Kidlington actually is.
Among the names are Victoria Campbell and Trevor Campbell. Victoria is a documented FoSB founder/spokesperson, while both later stood as Green Party candidates.
Linda Ward appears too — long associated with KDW, formerly Secretary of CDWA, involved with CPRE and later a Green councillor.
Alan Lodwick is there as well. He is a retired chartered planner, long-standing KDW figure and former CDWA committee member. He later directly supplied the 1833-map ancient woodland argument in the stadium case and copied FoSB into his correspondence.
Then there are people such as Steven Daggitt, Lynn Pilgrim, Catherine Grebenik, Keiron Ward, Dianne Bates-Brownsword, Felicity Peacock, Tim del Nevo and others whose names repeatedly crop up in Kidlington Green Belt and planning campaigns going back to roughly 2013–2017.
Some have particularly interesting backgrounds. Tim del Nevo, for example, was a former University of Oxford Land Agent and later sat on Oxford Preservation Trust’s Land Committee. Keiron Ward was already asking to be represented by KDW at a Local Plan examination in 2017. Steven Daggitt has been making Green Belt representations for well over a decade.
There are also people on the list who subsequently made their own objections to the Oxford United stadium application, including Dr Mika Abu and others.
So I wouldn’t describe these 240 people as “FoSB members”. That would be wrong.
What the list does demonstrate is something broader:
FoSB sits inside a much older and much larger Kidlington/Oxfordshire planning and Green Belt campaigning ecosystem.
KDW predates FoSB by years. CDWA grew out of several of these groups. CPRE and Oxford Green Belt Network overlap with them. A number of the same individuals repeatedly appear across Local Plan battles, Green Belt campaigns, stadium objections and other major developments.
FoSB itself says it “rapidly formed links with a well-established network of community action groups” so it could “hit the ground running.”
Looking at this list, you can see exactly what they meant.
They weren’t starting with a blank sheet of paper in 2022.
There was already a sizeable network of experienced campaigners, planners, professionals, councillors and long-term objectors sitting there.

Goes to show a certain few trying to orchestrate the proceedings. Very victorian britain. Oliver twist comes to mind. Certain over fed and over paid characters trying to decide the fate of the rest who do not have influence.

Try attending council meetings, very eye opening.

 

[OUFCwaffle]

View attachment 37301
Suzy, thank you for that wonderfully confident explanation of solar energy. It’s always refreshing when decades of engineering, meteorological data and actual electricity generation can be swept aside with the scientific breakthrough of “Britain isn’t very sunny.”
Fortunately, solar panels generate electricity from daylight, not from everyone sitting around waiting for Oxfordshire to turn into the Costa del Sol.

It's always the same unfounded subjective nonsense based entirely on opinions and nothing to do with reality

 

[trainingcone]

Another interesting item from wolvercote neighbour forum way back in 2023.

 

[FatOldSun]

View attachment 37301
Suzy, thank you for that wonderfully confident explanation of solar energy. It’s always refreshing when decades of engineering, meteorological data and actual electricity generation can be swept aside with the scientific breakthrough of “Britain isn’t very sunny.”
Fortunately, solar panels generate electricity from daylight, not from everyone sitting around waiting for Oxfordshire to turn into the Costa del Sol.

I have solar panels on my roof. So far this year they've generated 4.4 MWh of energy, so by the end of the year they'll have generated more than double the average household use. This is with 16 panels. The Botley solar farm would generate around 800GWh per year (more if we have another year like this), equivalent to the use of 320,000 average households! And she says this has limited impact on our solar security and will soon be obsolete?

 

[unification]

I saw this list of names months ago so I have been going through it
going through the 240 names who endorsed Kidlington Development Watch’s 2025 Local Plan submission, and there are some interesting overlaps.
Important caveat first: this is not a FoSB membership list. KDW itself says the names are people from its mailing list or website who agreed to endorse that particular submission. So appearing on it does not prove somebody is a member of KDW or FoSB.
What it does show is how large and longstanding the wider campaigning network around Kidlington actually is.
Among the names are Victoria Campbell and Trevor Campbell. Victoria is a documented FoSB founder/spokesperson, while both later stood as Green Party candidates.
Linda Ward appears too — long associated with KDW, formerly Secretary of CDWA, involved with CPRE and later a Green councillor.
Alan Lodwick is there as well. He is a retired chartered planner, long-standing KDW figure and former CDWA committee member. He later directly supplied the 1833-map ancient woodland argument in the stadium case and copied FoSB into his correspondence.
Then there are people such as Steven Daggitt, Lynn Pilgrim, Catherine Grebenik, Keiron Ward, Dianne Bates-Brownsword, Felicity Peacock, Tim del Nevo and others whose names repeatedly crop up in Kidlington Green Belt and planning campaigns going back to roughly 2013–2017.
Some have particularly interesting backgrounds. Tim del Nevo, for example, was a former University of Oxford Land Agent and later sat on Oxford Preservation Trust’s Land Committee. Keiron Ward was already asking to be represented by KDW at a Local Plan examination in 2017. Steven Daggitt has been making Green Belt representations for well over a decade.
There are also people on the list who subsequently made their own objections to the Oxford United stadium application, including Dr Mika Abu and others.
So I wouldn’t describe these 240 people as “FoSB members”. That would be wrong.
What the list does demonstrate is something broader:
FoSB sits inside a much older and much larger Kidlington/Oxfordshire planning and Green Belt campaigning ecosystem.
KDW predates FoSB by years. CDWA grew out of several of these groups. CPRE and Oxford Green Belt Network overlap with them. A number of the same individuals repeatedly appear across Local Plan battles, Green Belt campaigns, stadium objections and other major developments.
FoSB itself says it “rapidly formed links with a well-established network of community action groups” so it could “hit the ground running.”
Looking at this list, you can see exactly what they meant.
They weren’t starting with a blank sheet of paper in 2022.
There was already a sizeable network of experienced campaigners, planners, professionals, councillors and long-term objectors sitting there.

‘Dianne Bates-Brownsword’
Her son is Master Bates-Brownsword

‘Felicity Peacock’
Flick Peacock

fnarrrrr

 

[Billyox]

‘Dianne Bates-Brownsword’
Her son is Master Bates-Brownsword

‘Felicity Peacock’
Flick Peacock

fnarrrrr

She has a son called drew

 

[carefreeoufc]

Biggest issue with solar panels are the human rights issues and the direct links to the Uyghur genocide. Predominantly through the movement, detention, re-education and forced labour of Uyghur Muslims from the Xinjiang region of China.

I’d be taking this thread off on a tangent though! For those that are interested, In Broad Daylight produced by Dr Laura Murphy at Sheffield Hallam University is worth a look.

 

[Billyox]

Biggest issue with solar panels are the human rights issues and the direct links to the Uyghur genocide. Predominantly through the movement, detention, re-education and forced labour of Uyghur Muslims from the Xinjiang region of China.

I’d be taking this thread off on a tangent though! For those that are interested, In Broad Daylight produced by Dr Laura Murphy at Sheffield Hallam University is worth a look.

So you saying we shouldn't put em on the roof of the stadium fosb will now demand we dont

 

[carefreeoufc]

So you saying we shouldn't put em on the roof of the stadium fosb will now demand we dont

Wouldn’t be very environmentally friendly (which I assume is what FoSB/Greens care about).

I’m not suggesting we don’t put them on the roof. The issue with international supply chains, human rights violations linked to solar panel production and the location of the critical minerals used to produce them means it’s almost impossible not to purchase ones that are linked with forced labour.

I’d have thought that FoSB and co would have known this instead of bleating on about stuff that’s complete b@llocks. Most environmentalists that I meet have a complete blind spot when it comes to human rights issues linked to Net Zero.

e.g. it’s fine to erase a population as long as the UK reduces emissions by 0.001% globally or whatever the figure is.

(I should add, I did reach out to the club 18 months ago, or whenever it was, to say I was happy to provide some insight into this so that we could present we’d undertaken robust due diligence that would stand up if there was ever any scrutiny in the future. It’s something I’ve been working on with other large multinationals for a number of years)

 

[ljs]

BBC news headlines today:

"The clear-up of one of England's largest illegal waste tips has been completed - landing taxpayers with a £6m bill.

The government has vowed to recoup the clearance costs for the Kidlington dump in Oxfordshire - and seven other sites - from the criminals responsible.

In 2025, around 22,000 tonnes of domestic and commercial rubbish was dumped at the spot, between the River Cherwell and the A34."

Good thing that Ian is keeping his eyes and ears open for every little misdemeanor...

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

Plus what she's written is in direct contradiction of Green Party policy

They have an actual policy ?

 

[Sarge]

BBC news headlines today:

"The clear-up of one of England's largest illegal waste tips has been completed - landing taxpayers with a £6m bill.

The government has vowed to recoup the clearance costs for the Kidlington dump in Oxfordshire - and seven other sites - from the criminals responsible.

In 2025, around 22,000 tonnes of domestic and commercial rubbish was dumped at the spot, between the River Cherwell and the A34."

Good thing that Ian is keeping his eyes and ears open for every little misdemeanor...

especially in and around Sainsburys Kidlington

If theres either BBC South or ITV Meridian cameras on the now clear site later, whats the odds on the local green leader being seen there?- even though he claimed it wasnt on his patch initially

 

[uptheus]

BBC news headlines today:

"The clear-up of one of England's largest illegal waste tips has been completed - landing taxpayers with a £6m bill.

The government has vowed to recoup the clearance costs for the Kidlington dump in Oxfordshire - and seven other sites - from the criminals responsible.

In 2025, around 22,000 tonnes of domestic and commercial rubbish was dumped at the spot, between the River Cherwell and the A34."

Good thing that Ian is keeping his eyes and ears open for every little misdemeanor...

And I believe they’ve managed to recoup £7m in 5 years across the country for this type of criminal activity, but against a £7b cost!!

Yeah, that’ll learn hem!

 

[Under The Cuckoo Lane]

What does Middleton plan to replace prisons with?
The Party needs to fold immediately they are a complete joke.

 

[Concretebob]

What does Middleton plan to replace prisons with?
The Party needs to fold immediately they are a complete joke.

Massive gatherings where criminals are forced to watch his speeches at the various councils he is on. Much worse than sharing a cell with an armed robber.

 

[Sarge]

What does Middleton plan to replace prisons with?
The Party needs to fold immediately they are a complete joke.

one of his two houses?

 

[Billyox]

Is there a m Francis? on this thread if that is you can you dm please

 

[Concretebob]

one of his two houses?

Or maybe his ego? It's big enough.

 

[Sarge]

Or maybe his ego? It's big enough.

would solve the prison overcrowding issues for sure

 

[Concretebob]

Oh well done CDC

 

[Under The Cuckoo Lane]

would solve the prison overcrowding issues for sure

Could turn the prison cells into homes for homeless, and turf all the prisoners out onto the street. Problem over.

 

[Chrisox]

I see Middleton is back on next-door

 

[Billyox]

I see Middleton is back on next-door

Well that was a short ban they are normally at least a week is mr batt handing out another lesson??

 

[Chrisox]

Well that was a short ban they are normally at least a week is mr batt handing out another lesson??

Yes as per normal taking him a part

 

[Billyox]

Yes as per normal taking him a part

 

[Foley]

Plus what she's written is in direct contradiction of Green Party policy

Don't local Green members say what they think regardless of Green national policy?
Middleton and his mates seem to ignore Green policy ( and seem not interested in what is/ isn't green) when ot suits them and isnezr their doorstep?

 

[sideshowrob]

I found this lurking on Youtube.