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New Stadium The Triangle - Planning (S106 Agreed)

Saw this ( below) on an Oxford community social media page. Thinking if this 400+ year old traditional punishment could, perhaps should , be revived, reactivated and reintoduced by the incoming Greater Oxford Council? Theres more than a few ( from Kidlington and North Oxford areas) who, IMO, meet the criteria to qualify as a common scold, and richly deserve the traditional punishment too.

Yes, Im looking at you, FoSB and your supporters.



On this day in 1647- Oxford City Council agreed to the setting up of a ducking stool at Castle Mills to punish common scolds. ( OCA1/1/A1/3 - Council Book C, Oxford City Archives)
Under Common Law in England and Wales, a common scold was a type of public nuisance- a troublesome and angry person who broke public peace by habitually chastising, arguing and quarrelling with their neighbours. Most punished for scolding were women, though men could be found to be scolds too.
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Sarge said:
Saw this ( below) on an Oxford community social media page. Thinking if this 400+ year old traditional punishment could, perhaps should , be revived, reactivated and reintoduced by the incoming Greater Oxford Council? Theres more than a few ( from Kidlington and North Oxford areas) who, IMO, meet the criteria to qualify as a common scold, and richly deserve the traditional punishment too.



On this day in 1647- Oxford City Council agreed to the setting up of a ducking stool at Castle Mills to punish common scolds. ( OCA1/1/A1/3 - Council Book C, Oxford City Archives)
Under Common Law in England and Wales, a common scold was a type of public nuisance- a troublesome and angry person who broke public peace by habitually chastising, arguing and quarrelling with their neighbours. Most punished for scolding were women, though men could be found to be scolds too.
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"a troublesome and angry person who broke public peace by habitually chastising, arguing and quarrelling with their neighbours"

Yes, that definitely rings a bell or two 😂
 
karakoram said:
Ive been in ssu since day one and definitely no hot water.
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I wonder if that extends to the catering areas around the ground..??
 
Made-in-Jericho said:
Tell us more.
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What more can I tell you all that I haven't said before
There really is no need for panic over the oral hearing timetable.

The reference to the hearing being listed “within a month” is an administrative target, not an absolute legal deadline. We are currently only two days beyond that period, which in court terms is hardly a meaningful delay.

The summer recess does not mean the courts simply shut down and nothing can happen until October. Judges, court staff and hearings continue throughout the recess, although listing capacity may be reduced. Until the court issues the official hearing date, claims that it won’t be heard until October” are speculation.

This is also designated as a Significant Planning Claim. That means the court is already aware of the importance and time-sensitive nature of the proceedings and can manage the case accordingly. It does not guarantee a hearing on one exact date, but it certainly does not support the idea that the case will simply be left untouched for months.

Most importantly, permission has already been refused on the papers, with the judge describing the ancient woodland ground as unsustainable and finding no valid basis for judicial review on the traffic ground. The oral hearing is an attempt to overturn that refusal, not a completely new case.

A delay of two days changes absolutely nothing about the strength of the claim, the earlier judgment or the status of the planning permission. Let the court process run its course. There is no crisis here and certainly no reason to panic.
 
Billyox said:
What more can I tell you all that I haven't said before
There really is no need for panic over the oral hearing timetable.

The reference to the hearing being listed “within a month” is an administrative target, not an absolute legal deadline. We are currently only two days beyond that period, which in court terms is hardly a meaningful delay.

The summer recess does not mean the courts simply shut down and nothing can happen until October. Judges, court staff and hearings continue throughout the recess, although listing capacity may be reduced. Until the court issues the official hearing date, claims that it won’t be heard until October” are speculation.

This is also designated as a Significant Planning Claim. That means the court is already aware of the importance and time-sensitive nature of the proceedings and can manage the case accordingly. It does not guarantee a hearing on one exact date, but it certainly does not support the idea that the case will simply be left untouched for months.

Most importantly, permission has already been refused on the papers, with the judge describing the ancient woodland ground as unsustainable and finding no valid basis for judicial review on the traffic ground. The oral hearing is an attempt to overturn that refusal, not a completely new case.

A delay of two days changes absolutely nothing about the strength of the claim, the earlier judgment or the status of the planning permission. Let the court process run its course. There is no crisis here and certainly no reason to panic.
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It's also worth remembering that the onus of proof is on the appellant. They're the ones that have to show that the judge was wrong to refuse the appeal for a JR. This is not a simple task. I would say their chances of success are less than five per cent, and that's being generous. A new judge at the oral hearing is going to be very difficult to persuade that the original judge got it wrong, and when this is thrown out, if they go to a further appeal, their chances of success are getting vanishingly small.
 
Boris said:
It's also worth remembering that the onus of proof is on the appellant. They're the ones that have to show that the judge was wrong to refuse the appeal for a JR. This is not a simple task. I would say their chances of success are less than five per cent, and that's being generous. A new judge at the oral hearing is going to be very difficult to persuade that the original judge got it wrong, and when this is thrown out, if they go to a further appeal, their chances of success are getting vanishingly small.
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And will cost FoSB a lot of money.
 
Because I am apparently completely mad, and because I am trying to stop half of you from shitting your pants every time another 24 hours passes without a court update, I have spent the past two days trawling through judicial reviews.
Yes, this is what my life has become.
I went through 18 cases. I cannot be arsed to find any more. Frankly, if 18 cases are not enough for you, you are welcome to spend your own evening reading Administrative Court judgments instead of watching Netflix.
Every case followed the same basic route. Permission was refused on the papers, the claimant asked for an oral hearing, and permission was refused again.
The cases included ordinary judicial reviews and Planning Court cases involving major planning disputes.
The fastest oral hearing took place just over four weeks after the paper refusal.
The slowest took around 23 weeks.
The typical wait was nine weeks.
So being a couple of days beyond the court’s one month target is not a national emergency. It does not mean the hearing has vanished into a black hole. It does not automatically mean October. It also does not mean the claimant’s case has suddenly transformed from “unsustainable” into Perry Mason.
Court targets are targets. They are not countdown timers on a bomb.
The actual evidence shows these hearings regularly take longer than a month to be listed. Until the court issues a date, nobody knows when it will be.
So please breathe, put the brown trousers back in the wardrobe, and stop treating every quiet day as the death
 
Orkney Islands Yellow said:
I wouldn't waste your time Jerome was pretty certain on The Dub it won't be until October at least.
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Yeah cos Jerome works in the court
the club dont know they can't say a date so they have given him the worst case or himself has seen that they are on a recess and gone with the line thats it must be October just like yourself and many others
 
Billyox said:
Because I am apparently completely mad, and because I am trying to stop half of you from shitting your pants every time another 24 hours passes without a court update, I have spent the past two days trawling through judicial reviews.
Yes, this is what my life has become.
I went through 18 cases. I cannot be arsed to find any more. Frankly, if 18 cases are not enough for you, you are welcome to spend your own evening reading Administrative Court judgments instead of watching Netflix.
Every case followed the same basic route. Permission was refused on the papers, the claimant asked for an oral hearing, and permission was refused again.
The cases included ordinary judicial reviews and Planning Court cases involving major planning disputes.
The fastest oral hearing took place just over four weeks after the paper refusal.
The slowest took around 23 weeks.
The typical wait was nine weeks.
So being a couple of days beyond the court’s one month target is not a national emergency. It does not mean the hearing has vanished into a black hole. It does not automatically mean October. It also does not mean the claimant’s case has suddenly transformed from “unsustainable” into Perry Mason.
Court targets are targets. They are not countdown timers on a bomb.
The actual evidence shows these hearings regularly take longer than a month to be listed. Until the court issues a date, nobody knows when it will be.
So please breathe, put the brown trousers back in the wardrobe, and stop treating every quiet day as the death
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Your more patience with some people on here than I could be keep going Billy.
 
Made-in-Jericho said:
Anyone up for starting a GoFund Me page for Billy to reflect his incredible tenacity, diligence, patience, positivity and ruthlessness?
He could at least have a decent holiday somewhere a bit nicer than… ?
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Nowt wrong with butlins lovely weather kid can go off do what they want and I can spend the day in the pub
 
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