New Stadium The Triangle - Planning (Awaiting S106)

[SteMerritt]

New Stadium Project - Key Details
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[Billyox]

Martyn's Law (as it's correctly spelt) isn't even law yet.

They aren't a very clever bunch.

Dithering dot was in attendance thats why its been mentioned

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

I see Steve Hill is now using the stadium to argue his point re the proposed development of the North Oxford Golf club. If he thinks that the 1200 new homes will be negatively affected by the stadium, why would the developers want to build these homes in the first place?View attachment 31791

I'd like to live within walking distance to the stadium!!

 

[Concretebob]

Dithering dot was in attendance thats why its been mentioned

Oh that explains it all. The peroxide idiot is obsessed with that law and thinks it applies to the stadium when it doesn't.

 

[stokeu]

Oh that explains it all. The peroxide idiot is obsessed with that law and thinks it applies to the stadium when it doesn't.

You are wring, football stadia are specifically mentioned as impacted. The tier requirements are not overly onerous bearing in mind the level of planning anlready evidenced and will be met by the club.

KPC should be more concerned on the impact to schools and other standard tier locations in the parish.

 

[Concretebob]

You are wring, football stadia are specifically mentioned as impacted. The tier requirements are not overly onerous bearing in mind the level of planning anlready evidenced and will be met by the club.

KPC should be more concerned on the impact to schools and other standard tier locations in the parish.

It isn't law yet though...

 

[Billyox]

It isn't law yet though...

You are wring, football stadia are specifically mentioned as impacted. The tier requirements are not overly onerous bearing in mind the level of planning anlready evidenced and will be met by the club.

KPC should be more concerned on the impact to schools and other standard tier locations in the parish.

Football stadia are specifically covered under the forthcoming legislation, but Oxford United are already well ahead of the curve. Their stadium design and operations are based on The Green Guide — the Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds published by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority. It’s the national benchmark for crowd safety, evacuation, emergency response, and secure stadium management.

In other words, the club is already planning to meet — and in many cases exceed — the same safety framework that Martyn’s Law will formalise for large venues. The detailed planning work, from ingress and egress modelling to stewarding zones and command control, is all there in black and white in the planning documents.

So let’s be clear: Martyn’s Law isn’t a problem for Oxford United — it’s something they’re already designed to comply with. The stadium will be one of the safest, most thoroughly planned venues in the country from day one.

 

[Billyox]

And lets get one thing straight a fact that dithering dot and the rest of the kpc gang just cant grasp if the stadium open today it wouldnt have martyn law implemented but as soon as it does become law it would have to pass the test to get the safety certificate end of a non story

 

[Concretebob]

And lets get one thing straight a fact that dithering dot and the rest of the kpc gang just cant grasp if the stadium open today it wouldnt have martyn law implemented but as soon as it does become law it would have to pass the test to get the safety certificate end of a non story

Exactly. They think it's a stumbling block but it really isn't.

 

[Sutton Yellow]

KPC members really are swimming in the slow lane.

 

[Ballie]

Football stadia are specifically covered under the forthcoming legislation, but Oxford United are already well ahead of the curve. Their stadium design and operations are based on The Green Guide — the Guide to Safety at Sports Grounds published by the Sports Grounds Safety Authority. It’s the national benchmark for crowd safety, evacuation, emergency response, and secure stadium management.

In other words, the club is already planning to meet — and in many cases exceed — the same safety framework that Martyn’s Law will formalise for large venues. The detailed planning work, from ingress and egress modelling to stewarding zones and command control, is all there in black and white in the planning documents.

So let’s be clear: Martyn’s Law isn’t a problem for Oxford United — it’s something they’re already designed to comply with. The stadium will be one of the safest, most thoroughly planned venues in the country from day one.

Absolutely this ~ Martyn’s Law will be more of a challenge for existing Stadiums and Venues to comply with, than it will be to a new Stadium, which will have all elements of The Green Guide included within the construction plan.

 

[Ewes]

You are wring

 

[The Mighty Aldo]

KPC members really are swimming in the slow lane.

They aren’t even swimming,they’re sinking

 

[Manorlounger]

They aren’t even swimming,they’re sinking

I think floundering, is the term you're looking for!

 

[Sarge]

They aren’t even swimming,they’re sinking

drowning?

 

[Foxy]

They aren’t even swimming,they’re sinking

They are sinking in

 

[Concretebob]

They are sinking in

That's because Middleton has been allowed to talk way too much

 

[Maurice Earp]

I see Steve Hill is now using the stadium to argue his point re the proposed development of the North Oxford Golf club. If he thinks that the 1200 new homes will be negatively affected by the stadium, why would the developers want to build these homes in the first place?View attachment 31791

Steve Hill is a total idiot, none of his arguments bare any facts at all. Hold on a minute, perhaps in his wine addled mine they do

 

[Maurice Earp]

KPC members really are swimming in the slow lane.

No, they're swimming in liquified

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Exactly. They think it's a stumbling block but it really isn't.

Another nice tip off as to what will be in the JR! Cheers Blossom and Dot!

 

[Concretebob]

Meanwhile, in the Fail

 

[Billyox]

Another nice tip off as to what will be in the JR! Cheers Blossom and Dot!

Nope Judicial Review (JR) can only look at how a decision was made, not whether the decision was “right” or “wrong.”

So the court checks for three main things:

1. Illegality – the decision-maker didn’t have the legal power or broke the law doing it.


2. Irrationality – the decision was so unreasonable that no fair person could have made it.


3. Procedural unfairness – proper process wasn’t followed (bias, not consulting properly, ignoring evidence, etc).

 

[LowerSouth]

Nope Judicial Review (JR) can only look at how a decision was made, not whether the decision was “right” or “wrong.”

So the court checks for three main things:

1. Illegality – the decision-maker didn’t have the legal power or broke the law doing it.


2. Irrationality – the decision was so unreasonable that no fair person could have made it.


3. Procedural unfairness – proper process wasn’t followed (bias, not consulting properly, ignoring evidence, etc).

Presumably a JR can only deal with the Cherwell planning procedure and not OCC lease negotiations?

 

[Oxymoron]

They did threaten legal action over the lease consultation, getting as far as a "Letter before claim", a pre-cursor to a Judicial Review.

They subsequently claimed that OCC failed to address the concerns in that letter and appealed for funds to pursue the legal challenge.

Nothing happened.......

 

[Billyox]

They did threaten legal action over the lease consultation, getting as far as a "Letter before claim", a pre-cursor to a Judicial Review.

They subsequently claimed that OCC failed to address the concerns in that letter and appealed for funds to pursue the legal challenge.

Nothing happened.......

I believe there is again a time limit to lodge a jr against this. is believe its longer than 6 weeks maybe 6 months well thats long expired

 

[uptheus]

Has the S106 not been issued yet?

 

[Billyox]

Has the S106 not been issued yet?

Nope all good tho

 

[Oxymoron]

I believe there is again a time limit to lodge a jr against this. is believe its longer than 6 weeks maybe 6 months well thats long expired

We're well past that, this was over two years ago

My guess is that Leigh Day took a flyer on this based on FoSB testimony and when OCC responded with factual documents, they advised FoSB that there would be little chance of winning if they continued.

That's just conjecture on my part but something sunk their battleship.....

 

[Oxymoron]

I believe there is again a time limit to lodge a jr against this. is believe its longer than 6 weeks maybe 6 months well thats long expired

Were well past that this was over two tears ago
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My guess is that Leigh Day took a flyer on this based on FoSB testimony and when OCC responded with factual documents, they advised FoSB that there would be little chance of winning if they continued.

That's just conjecture on my part but something sunk their battleship.....

 

[Foley]

Nope all good tho

Presumably it will be finalised soon Billy?
The assumption by some wouod be that it wouof be the end of October/ beginning of November?

 

[Billyox]

Presumably it will be finalised soon Billy?
The assumption by some wouod be that it wouof be the end of October/ beginning of November?

I dont think we are too far away now as Jon Clarke said to me in the coming weeks