The real living wage.
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Rather judgemental. Maybe there are many reasons Doris can’t ‘get on her bike’ a la Tebbitt. Maybe her options are restricted by low intelligence (not her fault), lack of education or training, a need to look after children or sick relatives? To suggest she lacks ambition or drive might be a tad unpleasant, don’t you think?
We're not talking about giving Doris a massive salary here, just enough income to stave off poverty.
We're not talking about giving Doris a massive salary here, just enough income to stave off poverty.
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Doris gets paid what her employers think she is worth. As do hundreds, if not thousands of other employees.
State intervention (irrespective of the business) says she must get NM/NL Wage.
A change to the "Real Living Wage" from NM/NL wage is roughly 80p an hour.
Trouble is if you boost the bottom tier you then need to continue the push up the organisation.......... Doris gets 10% a week rise, then so does Doris`s boss.... and so it goes on.
State intervention (irrespective of the business) says she must get NM/NL Wage.
A change to the "Real Living Wage" from NM/NL wage is roughly 80p an hour.
Trouble is if you boost the bottom tier you then need to continue the push up the organisation.......... Doris gets 10% a week rise, then so does Doris`s boss.... and so it goes on.
Doris gets paid what her employers think she is worth. As do hundreds, if not thousands of other employees.
State intervention (irrespective of the business) says she must get NM/NL Wage.
A change to the "Real Living Wage" from NM/NL wage is roughly 80p an hour.
Trouble is if you boost the bottom tier you then need to continue the push up the organisation.......... Doris gets 10% a week rise, then so does Doris`s boss.... and so it goes on.
State intervention (irrespective of the business) says she must get NM/NL Wage.
A change to the "Real Living Wage" from NM/NL wage is roughly 80p an hour.
Trouble is if you boost the bottom tier you then need to continue the push up the organisation.......... Doris gets 10% a week rise, then so does Doris`s boss.... and so it goes on.
Yeh, we all know that football is a mega-business now, and every club in the Premiership is rolling in volumes of money that were unimaginable 30 years ago.
But let's say Club X has 500 employees earning below a living wage. (Made up number of employees but probably over-stated). To give each employee an extra £1.00 per hour would cost that club £1 million per annum. If the club's that concerned about its costs, they could always knock a £1,000 per week off the salary of 20 of their footballers to balance the books. I'm sure the little loves would survive and be pleased to help the Dorises live to a decent standard.
But let's say Club X has 500 employees earning below a living wage. (Made up number of employees but probably over-stated). To give each employee an extra £1.00 per hour would cost that club £1 million per annum. If the club's that concerned about its costs, they could always knock a £1,000 per week off the salary of 20 of their footballers to balance the books. I'm sure the little loves would survive and be pleased to help the Dorises live to a decent standard.
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You can`t reduce someones salary without creating a lot of issues. Do we not think that the players and their agents give a fig about "Doris" when they are negotiating their contracts? "Do you pay the National Living Wage" isn`t very high up the list of questions at a guess.
Its a strange irony that the chap from Persimmon has been asked to leave for making the business successful and earning a £75 million bonus.... sacked for "doing your job" or sacked because "people think its too much" ??
Its a strange irony that the chap from Persimmon has been asked to leave for making the business successful and earning a £75 million bonus.... sacked for "doing your job" or sacked because "people think its too much" ??
Oh I'm sure that no footballer signing for a Premier League club that underpays some of its staff considers those people's living conditions one iota, any more than I think about how much my server in Greggs is paid when I buy a sausage roll.
The onus, in my opinion, should be on the club to do the right thing. If player X demands £200k per week and Doris needs £300 per week to pay her bills, there's no reason the club can't satisfy both needs; if it can afford the former it sure as hell can afford the latter.
As for Jeff Fairburn leaving Persimmon because the board felt 'criticism of his bonus was a continuing distraction that had hit the company's reputation', what nonsense! Who agreed terms of the bonus in the first place, and who couldn't have envisaged the coming criticism?
The onus, in my opinion, should be on the club to do the right thing. If player X demands £200k per week and Doris needs £300 per week to pay her bills, there's no reason the club can't satisfy both needs; if it can afford the former it sure as hell can afford the latter.
As for Jeff Fairburn leaving Persimmon because the board felt 'criticism of his bonus was a continuing distraction that had hit the company's reputation', what nonsense! Who agreed terms of the bonus in the first place, and who couldn't have envisaged the coming criticism?
Problem with Fairburn was that they signed up to the share deal in 2012 at a much lower price.......... then he was successful and doubled the value.
I doubt he`ll lose much sleep and will, probably, walk into another similar role.
As for Premier League Clubs "doing the right thing" the reality is they think they are.............. profit at all costs.
If Doris needs £300 a week and Julia from Eastern Europe will do the job for £250 then its bye bye Doris.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Didn`t mither about it,or blame anyone else its just business.
I doubt he`ll lose much sleep and will, probably, walk into another similar role.
As for Premier League Clubs "doing the right thing" the reality is they think they are.............. profit at all costs.
If Doris needs £300 a week and Julia from Eastern Europe will do the job for £250 then its bye bye Doris.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Didn`t mither about it,or blame anyone else its just business.