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[Carpy]

We already have youth mobility schemes with Australia, Canada and New Zealand (and a few others). No one is suggesting that these have led to mass migration or allows them to all rock up with their families.

This is yet another case of the right leaning media and desperate opposition parties stoking up some sort of national crisis with words like Betrayal and Surrender, and people not bothering to look at the details.

Agree to a point, but you have to recognise the difference between having these arrangements with advanced economies with similar economies similar paying jobs and the whole of the EU.

To open it up to some of the eastern bloc countries does mean there is an incentive to stick around after any visa expires.

 

[bazzer9461]

As said by @Scotchegg, this isn't a unique deal to the EU. Makes sense to me, I also hope we go back into the Erasmus Scheme.

Can't remember who said earlier but we'll end up with something akin to the Swiss type deal. Do you really think a Govt could sign us up to the Single Market with all it encompasses through the back door? That just isn't happening.

I hope not, not sure if the LibDems were in power that they wouldn’t put us into single market.

 

[Scotchegg]

Agree to a point, but you have to recognise the difference between having these arrangements with advanced economies with similar economies similar paying jobs and the whole of the EU.

To open it up to some of the eastern bloc countries does mean there is an incentive to stick around after any visa expires.

That's true for anyone, as it's also true for Brits travelling to other countries and then wanting to stay.

If someone comes here, gets work, makes a contribution to society and then applies to stay at the end of their visa - we should probably welcome them.

 

[The Voice Of Reason]

That is one take, I suppose. Or another is they are taking action as the Country's Govt.

Labour have been talking about trade and deals from before the last election.

Yes but not deals just for deals sake

 

[bazzer9461]

That's true for anyone, as it's also true for Brits travelling to other countries and then wanting to stay.

If someone comes here, gets work, makes a contribution to society and then applies to stay at the end of their visa - we should probably welcome them.

But the issue here Scotchera is they are allowed to bring their families as well as it will make a mockery of the immigration figures.

 

[Marked Ox]

Yes but not deals just for deals sake

And they are deals for deals sake?

This deal is expected to be worth £9bn. Small food producers are looking at exporting to the EU again as they won't have the red tape & costs associated before this deal. Somebody put the clip of Newsnight on earlier and listed quite a few organisations in favour. Then there is the opportunity for the defence industries which employ 10s of 000s directly in this country and therefore indirectly supporting more. Defence industries are recruiting staff and are often skilled workers, or Apprentices to become them, that make things.

Ironically the fishing organisations unhappy with the deal may end up benefiting with the SPS agreement.

India is expected to raise £5bn annually iirc. Hardly deals for deals sake.

 

[Scotchegg]

But the issue here Scotchera is they are allowed to bring their families as well as it will make a mockery of the immigration figures.

Families of those in youth mobility schemes are not eligible to come here.

 

[bazzer9461]

Families of those in youth mobility schemes are not eligible to come here.

But it was mentioned yesterday morning on GMB that’s why I mentioned.

 

[Scotchegg]

But it was mentioned yesterday morning on GMB that’s why I mentioned.

It may have been, but you can't bring anyone else in on a youth mobility visa.

 

[bazzer9461]

It may have been, but you can't bring anyone else in on a youth mobility visa.

Sorry just saying what I heard during the conversation with the news paper guys

 

[OUFCGav]

Sorry just saying what I heard during the conversation with the news paper guys

General Youth Mobility Scheme page - https://www.gov.uk/youth-mobility/eligibility
India Specific Page - https://www.gov.uk/india-young-professionals-scheme-visa

The exact criteria for the EU scheme are not yet finalised only an outline plan with broad criteria around limits, so anyone claiming to know details would seem to be being "creative".

 

[stokeu]

Better are the fishery expert that was on GMb this morning and I’m sure she would be more qualified than you or I.

What fish do you actually eat and how often?

 

[Essexyellows]

What fish do you actually eat and how often?

Cod loin, smoked mackerel, haddock and tuna (fresh and tinned) are our fish of preference ..... couple of times a week.
Try and stick to 2 meat, 2 fish, 1 veggie meal Mon to Friday - weekends depend on what`s going on.

 

[LowerSouth]

What fish do you actually eat and how often?

Probably Birds Eye