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When some fans have a go at our owners , they would do well to remember this, not forgetting Niall Mc Williams because without him there would be no new stadium and that is the reason our current owners have stuck with usWho'd want to be our owners over the years?
Pumped many millions into a medium sized club on low revenue, and continue to do so. Without our current owners where would we be now I wonder, and the memories created for so many simply would not exist.
Id say this tho youngsters play without fear as they dont have that experienceThe increased number of substitutions in recent years is another reason why we should manage expectations for the coming season.
Fingers crossed the youngsters will do a good job, but having experienced ‘finishers’ on the bench who can come on and transform/manage the game is different to asking youth players to do a job.
They might well do a good job, but we’re asking a lot of them. They’ll certainly get our support.
Alan HansenId say this tho youngsters play without fear as they dont have that experience
Who was it who said you wont win anything with youngsters
You know what @Manorlounger this embargo may just be doing us a favour in the long run. Aaron Ramsey has to play these youngsters because he has no options, yet I feel with the two coaches he has brought in with him they would have got a chance anyway.Could be when the embargo is lifted we see more youngsters come in rather than the likes of Phillips, Dembele etc the aging proPlaying the youngsters and, playing them as full on team members, has given me great encouragement in the squad management by Ramsay. They all looked fully on board, played with confidence and, displayed qualities that belittled their youth status.
It's not just that we will need their participation, the club needs to develop new players, new talent for the selling model of a club that we undoubtedly need to be. The disrespect and lack of any trust in youth by Rowett and, to some extent by Bloomfield, was counterproductive and could have robbed the youth of any confidence.
What I've seen so far in the games against Crawley and Ipswich has been very encouraging and I look forward to seeing more in the new season.
On Friday the Chairs of FAB and OxVox met with the Chair of Oxford United to discuss a number of concerns. This was arranged by the Club following the recent FAB meeting stressing the urgency of improving communication. Discussions were frank and constructive. A summary can be read on the link below.
It's a shame you weren't as vehement in your questioning of the club when you were a member of the Supporters Panel.Having read the OxVox email from their meeting with Dusan, a couple of things come to mind.
Firstly, I don't care about any ITK bollox, but I posted pretty much the same thing weeks ago as to my understanding of the situation. Why this matters is that whilst this has come from the horses mouth, it's not the "breaking news" I was hoping for.
And if this was being spoken about within the club, why has it taken a month to thrn be shared with fans and our fans group?
OxVox acknowledge that everything amounts to positive words and assurances and say that actions speak louder than words.
But one significant action has been silence. Not because there hasn't been anything to say, but the club has chosen not to say it.
Now, of course, it looks like we can put to bed some of the wild claims that have been made on here and various "expert" podcasts. And even the slightly evasive comments about asking the owners about other investors, isn't quite the gotcha some may think - we've always been seeking external investors for the stadium.
But I still think that some critical questions have been left unanswered, and, I know it will go against the grain, but I think OxVox have left them off the hook here. After such more communication over the summer months, and not much better before that, I don't want vague assurances of something better in the future. I want clear accountability and actions.
This would include;
A video statement from Dusan, to be put across the club socials, to introduce himself, explain the current situation and apologise for the lack of engagement to date.
A commitment to monthly chairman updates, or sooner if the situation changes.
A commitment to a Fans Forum by the end of September with Dusan and all relevant SLT in attendance.
All of this should be seen as nothing more than Business As Usual, but it will give assurances that Dusan and the club are committed to better communication and will help to rebuild trust.
I am hopeful for the future (always am) and feel that this has been an important step to at least find out the Dusan exists! But words have been proven to be meaningless before, and I want to see more than a few notes from a cosy chat during the most critical time in our clubs future.
It's a shame you weren't as vehement in your questioning of the club when you were a member of the Supporters Panel.
Thank you Scotchegg for all you do for our club.Firstly, the supporters panel and OxVox have two very different roles, and I was always very clear that the Governance of the club sat with OxVox and still should.
Secondly, I absolutely did question the club on various issues, including things like Fans Forums and feel partially responsible for the fact that we got them up and running.
And finally, if you believe that this is time for personal squabbles, rather than holding the club to account during this critical time, then I worry about your priorities. Nothing I have posted is unreasonable. I'm not talking about protests or storming the boardroom. I'm asking for communication to ALL fans, not just OxVox members and those who come on here. And a Fans Forum that the club's Fan Engagement Plan promises.
Is that too much to ask?
Agreed. While I’m encouraged by the ‘takeaway’ comments from OxVox that they had felt the meeting was positive, as I do trust their judgement, the responses are conspicuously lacking in any kind of detail or concrete thinking. I’ll give OxVox the benefit of the doubt and assume what was told to them in the ‘off the record’ / confidential points they couldn’t disclose gave them sufficient comfort that the situation is being addressed, but I don’t otherwise think the responses tell us anything we didn’t already know.Having read the OxVox email from their meeting with Dusan, a couple of things come to mind.
Firstly, I don't care about any ITK bollox, but I posted pretty much the same thing weeks ago as to my understanding of the situation. Why this matters is that whilst this has come from the horses mouth, it's not the "breaking news" I was hoping for.
And if this was being spoken about within the club, why has it taken a month to thrn be shared with fans and our fans group?
OxVox acknowledge that everything amounts to positive words and assurances and say that actions speak louder than words.
But one significant action has been silence. Not because there hasn't been anything to say, but the club has chosen not to say it.
Now, of course, it looks like we can put to bed some of the wild claims that have been made on here and various "expert" podcasts. And even the slightly evasive comments about asking the owners about other investors, isn't quite the gotcha some may think - we've always been seeking external investors for the stadium.
But I still think that some critical questions have been left unanswered, and, I know it will go against the grain, but I think OxVox have left them off the hook here. After such more communication over the summer months, and not much better before that, I don't want vague assurances of something better in the future. I want clear accountability and actions.
This would include;
A video statement from Dusan, to be put across the club socials, to introduce himself, explain the current situation and apologise for the lack of engagement to date.
A commitment to monthly chairman updates, or sooner if the situation changes.
A commitment to a Fans Forum by the end of September with Dusan and all relevant SLT in attendance.
All of this should be seen as nothing more than Business As Usual, but it will give assurances that Dusan and the club are committed to better communication and will help to rebuild trust.
I am hopeful for the future (always am) and feel that this has been an important step to at least find out the Dusan exists! But words have been proven to be meaningless before, and I want to see more than a few notes from a cosy chat during the most critical time in our clubs future.
Well done, you. Virtual signaller extraordinaire!Firstly, the supporters panel and OxVox have two very different roles, and I was always very clear that the Governance of the club sat with OxVox and still should.
Secondly, I absolutely did question the club on various issues, including things like Fans Forums and feel partially responsible for the fact that we got them up and running.
And finally, if you believe that this is time for personal squabbles, rather than holding the club to account during this critical time, then I worry about your priorities. Nothing I have posted is unreasonable. I'm not talking about protests or storming the boardroom. I'm asking for communication to ALL fans, not just OxVox members and those who come on here. And a Fans Forum that the club's Fan Engagement Plan promises.
Is that too much to ask?
One thing I would say - those of us supporters who are members of OxVox and/or are on here will have seen the reassurances etc.
However, nobody else will - because the club have not yet posted any new update from the chairman on the OWS as yet. So if (as Mr Egg rightly says) the club should be communicating to ALL fans, then I hope that will appear later today.
100% this ... the 2K membership of @OxVox isn't far off being reached/ passed; 2000 (+) members of a Supporters trust is, I believe, a figure that is not only impressive, once achieved /surpassed, will very likely ensure SMT, & owners, treat OxVox with respect and take notice of OxVox. OxVox are independent of the club. The committee, democratically elected, are all OUFC supporters. Cost of membership for 3 years for an adult is £3.33.3 per year, even less for Juniors and Seniors per year for a 3 year membership package.I think we need to try and get as many fans signed up to Oxvox at this current time as possible.
The more members (customers in the clubs eyes) they represent the better when it comes to trying to get answers from the club.
And you get a nice shiny metal badge, which was a nice surprise.100% this ... the 2K membership of @OxVox isn't far off being reached/ passed; 2000 (+) members of a Supporters trust is, I believe, a figure that is not only impressive, once achieved /surpassed, will very likely ensure SMT, & owners, treat OxVox with respect and take notice of OxVox. OxVox are independent of the club. The committee, democratically elected, are all OUFC supporters. Cost of membership for 3 years for an adult is £3.33.3 per year, even less for Juniors and Seniors per year for a 3 year membership package.
I went for the Lifer option and also got @Maurice Earp 's autograph on a nice little certificate, what more could anyone want? It's framed on my home office wall.And you get a nice shiny metal badge, which was a nice surprise.
100% this ... the 2K membership of @OxVox isn't far off being reached/ passed; 2000 (+) members of a Supporters trust is, I believe, a figure that is not only impressive, once achieved /surpassed, will very likely ensure SMT, & owners, treat OxVox with respect and take notice of OxVox. OxVox are independent of the club. The committee, democratically elected, are all OUFC supporters. Cost of membership for 3 years for an adult is £3.33.3 per year, even less for Juniors and Seniors per year for a 3 year membership package.
I have that too.. tempted to pop it on eBay to pay off my mortgage..I went for the Lifer option and also got @Maurice Earp 's autograph on a nice little certificate, what more could anyone want? It's framed on my home office wall.
Got to be going up in value now he has announced his retirement from the role, so hang on to it for a bit first.I have that too.. tempted to pop it on eBay to pay off my mortgage..
On Friday the Chairs of FAB and OxVox met with the Chair of Oxford United to discuss a number of concerns. This was arranged by the Club following the recent FAB meeting stressing the urgency of improving communication. Discussions were frank and constructive. A summary can be read on the link below.
Amen to that brotherThank you Scotchegg for all you do for our club.
Let's grow up and stop squabbling, me too.
Peace and Love to OUFC Fans.
I think we need to try and get as many fans signed up to Oxvox at this current time as possible.
The more members (customers in the clubs eyes) they represent the better when it comes to trying to get answers from the club.
100% this ... the 2K membership of @OxVox isn't far off being reached/ passed; 2000 (+) members of a Supporters trust is, I believe, a figure that is not only impressive, once achieved /surpassed, will very likely ensure SMT, & owners, treat OxVox with respect and take notice of OxVox. OxVox are independent of the club. The committee, democratically elected, are all OUFC supporters. Cost of membership for 3 years for an adult is £3.33.3 per year, even less for Juniors and Seniors per year for a 3 year membership package.