General Sykes wants to play for the republic

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Wandering Yellow said:
You enjoy your imaginary moral highground mate doesn't bother me. I'll enjoy living in an independent United Kingdom.
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Oooh!! Taking back control!!!! Or have you just handed it to the Etonians, the Americans and the big corporations? Enjoy your five quid minimum wage and your chlorinated chicken, sucker.
 
ThehatchetMan said:
I think that's a difficult question to answer. Rugby historically is a more upper class game so alot of DUP supporters wouldn't take an interest in it. However there obviously are still working class people who follow and enjoy rugby.

For protestants like myself, I happily support the Ireland rugby and cricket team without question. Id say most portestants don't have an issue with it however dup supporting protestants wouldn't be as tolerant as your average protestant. However even still I imagine a larger majority of DUP supporting rugby fans would support Ireland than wouldn't.

The difference between rugby and football is that after the separation of Ireland there was no desire by the RFU to separate the teams. Whereas all the football teams from the Republic of Ireland refused to travel into Northern Ireland after the separation which resulted in the split.

Having now supported Northern Ireland for years it would be difficult to support and all Ireland team. Don't get me wrong it would be nice to see and I would 100% support them if it was the only choice. It would just be more difficult for us because we'd likely be the team doing the merging if that makes sense. The bulk of the squad would be from the south, the matches would be in Dublin, the southern Irish would make up most of the fans and lead the chants. It would be very difficult to lose everything which makes the NI team unique. It would be like if Wales and England national teams were to merge. It would be less attractive a proposition for a Welsh fan than what it would be for an England fan.
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Thank you - a very helpful answer.
 
werthersoriginal said:
Oooh!! Taking back control!!!! Or have you just handed it to the Etonians, the Americans and the big corporations? Enjoy your five quid minimum wage and your chlorinated chicken, sucker.
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We out-perform the EU on almost all workers standards and the EU is a protection racket for big business. Good try though.

I'll do just fine thanks as will almost everyone else. Enjoy sulking about it for the rest of your life x
 
If people are interested in hate filled bigotry, I suggest you check out a certain England international who jumped ship from the ROI and see how he was treated on social media etc after making that decision...
 
Wandering Yellow said:
We out-perform the EU on almost all workers standards and the EU is a protection racket for big business. Good try though.

I'll do just fine thanks as will almost everyone else. Enjoy sulking about it for the rest of your life x
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After that short but bitter exchange shall we forget about it and get on with the football?
 
MiddleBartonYellow said:
I’m educated enough thank you.
McClean is a Catholic so will hold republican views, hardly ground breaking stuff is it.
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Really, so all Roman Catholics hold extreme republican views, all RCs who played in England revelled in it?

Many Irish RCs came here, played and loved it here and were loved in return. One my heroes was Davy Langan who was an RC from Dublin, he played, showed respect and got it in return like most, see the difference, as I say, educate yourself...
 
Ox4Eva said:
Really, so all Roman Catholics hold extreme republican views, all RCs who played in England revelled in it?

Many Irish RCs came here, played and loved it here and were loved in return. One my heroes was Davy Langan who was an RC from Dublin, he played, showed respect and got it in return like most, see the difference, as I say, educate yourself...
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Dublin isn’t in the North is it. McClean grew up on the Creggan estate in Derry which is a republican area.
Like I said in one of my previous posts, unless you were born into it you have no idea what it was like.
 
MiddleBartonYellow said:
Dublin isn’t in the North is it. McClean grew up on the Creggan estate in Derry which is a republican area.
Like I said in one of my previous posts, unless you were born into it you have no idea what it was like.
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He came from Londonderry, I spend quite a lot of time there. He was not even born during the troubles, he is a vile scumbag who shows no respect unlike many others.

I am in Londonderry often, and was actually there again a couple of weeks back with friends on the waterside, as I say again, educate yourself...
 
Ox4Eva said:
He came from Londonderry, I spend quite a lot of time there. He was not even born during the troubles, he is a vile scumbag who shows no respect unlike many others.

I am in Londonderry often, and was actually there again a couple of weeks back with friends on the waterside, as I say again, educate yourself...
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It’s Derry now isn’t it?
 
Ox4Eva said:
He came from Londonderry, I spend quite a lot of time there. He was not even born during the troubles, he is a vile scumbag who shows no respect unlike many others.

I am in Londonderry often, and was actually there again a couple of weeks back with friends on the waterside, as I say again, educate yourself...
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Oh dear.
 
I'm obviously uneducated and lacking in compassion compared to some on here, but what saddens me is that 20 odd years since the GFA and yet the same old arguments are used to justify why a young man should or shouldn't play football for a nation he is eligible for.

I appreciate that these things run deep, and I don't underestimate the feelings on different sides, but let's be honest, it's all a load of bollox isn't it?

Maybe if people spent less time worrying about which God (if any) others believed in, what colour they are, where they come from, who they fall in love with, what they eat, what they wear, what name they want to be called, with whatever pronoun they identify with, and certainly what f*****g football they play for, and just focused on their own lives, maybe the world would be a better place to live.
 
Scotchegg said:
I'm obviously uneducated and lacking in compassion compared to some on here, but what saddens me is that 20 odd years since the GFA and yet the same old arguments are used to justify why a young man should or shouldn't play football for a nation he is eligible for.

I appreciate that these things run deep, and I don't underestimate the feelings on different sides, but let's be honest, it's all a load of bollox isn't it?

Maybe if people spent less time worrying about which God (if any) others believed in, what colour they are, where they come from, who they fall in love with, what they eat, what they wear, what name they want to be called, with whatever pronoun they identify with, and certainly what f*****g football they play for, and just focused on their own lives, maybe the world would be a better place to live.
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Along the lines of what I eluded to, maybe some need to show respect
 
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