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[tonyw]

On your Luton point I saw the other day that they’ve already gone to phase 2 of their new stadium project before it’s even built. That is to increase capacity to 23,000 so makes ours look even smaller when compared.

Yeah, 100 million in TV money for one season in the PL, and close to that amount guaranteed over the next three years in parachute payments, will rather change the economics of new stadium construction!

The only question is how Bournemouth have spent 8 out of 10 seasons in the PL, and still haven't managed to get their new stadium off the ground!

 

[Hook]

I'm not sure how realistic Beadle returning is. I'd be very very happy if he did come back but it feels like wishful thinking. He left us last season to get tested at the bottom end of The Championship and by all accounts, he passed that test with flying colours. Surely if he's going out on loan again this season then it'd be back to Sheffield Wednesday, or to a mid/upper table Championship side.

Beadle returning is absolute pie in the sky. He played his part this season but we have seen the last of Beadle in an Oxford shirt. Forget it. Time to find 'the next' James Beadle. Brighton recalled him to test him against higher calibre opposition and to play in front of large crowds. Coming back to Oxford would make zero sense for his development.

 

[Northernyellow]

Beadle returning is absolute pie in the sky. He played his part this season but we have seen the last of Beadle in an Oxford shirt. Forget it. Time to find 'the next' James Beadle. Brighton recalled him to test him against higher calibre opposition and to play in front of large crowds. Coming back to Oxford would make zero sense for his development.

Agree. No chance he will return. He'll be in the full England squad in 18 months time. He's that good.

 

[Yellows1]

Slightly off topic but 16k now does not seem to great a capacity for the new stadium the original planned 18k I would have been much happier but we have to be sustainable I suppose let's get it built first.

I remember this was bought up on the phone in with Jerome, think the thinking was get the planning agreed first and stadium built then increase capacity further down the line

 

[bazzer9461]

Yeah, 100 million in TV money for one season in the PL, and close to that amount guaranteed over the next three years in parachute payments, will rather change the economics of new stadium construction!

The only question is how Bournemouth have spent 8 out of 10 seasons in the PL, and still haven't managed to get their new stadium off the ground!

They keep getting planning refused and they’re overspending

 

[Yellows1]

we can't fill a 12k stadium so 16k is fine

That’s shortsighted….:: Our fan base is slowly growing,

 

[Scotchegg]

I was told that expansion to 20k is relatively and easy, but anything more means knocking down a stand.

Yes, stadium project team confirmed that there was the opportunity to expand up in increments without increasing the footprint and that, once approved, this wouldn't be a huge issue to amend plans. However, none of that matters right now. But certainly a 20k stadium is entirely possible.

 

[BillyTurleys CurlyWurly]

Joe Bennett - free
Marc Leonard - 300k
Josh Murphy - free
Tyrese Campbell - free

First four?

 

[Victor1986]

Yes, stadium project team confirmed that there was the opportunity to expand up in increments without increasing the footprint and that, once approved, this wouldn't be a huge issue to amend plans. However, none of that matters right now. But certainly a 20k stadium is entirely possible.

Scotchers, I have always respected your views but I cannot let this go without comment.
The submitted design will be impossible to increase stadium capacity without blitzing a significant part of it. " Wouldn't be a huge issue" ? Suppose it wouldn't if it's a semi rebuild.
Anyway Cherwell will put a limit on capacitoy as OCC did on the Kassam.
What we will be getting is a replica of the Doncaster stadium. - a few more than their 15.5k capacity. - but spatially just like that plus some hotel rooms with a pitch view. Have a look at the L2 semi final that is still on Sky atm for reference.
In my opinion the submitted design is too small and I reckon many of our fans will feel the same. - all the other facilities will be wonderful but isn't it a new football stadium that we are after, not a 24 hour commercial project that happens to have a football pitch behind it?
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[Mojofilter]

Beadle returning is absolute pie in the sky. He played his part this season but we have seen the last of Beadle in an Oxford shirt. Forget it. Time to find 'the next' James Beadle. Brighton recalled him to test him against higher calibre opposition and to play in front of large crowds. Coming back to Oxford would make zero sense for his development.

I dunno, he is likely to get a lot more practice saving with us than most other places

 

[Scotchegg]

Scotchers, I have always respected your views but I cannot let this go without comment.
The submitted design will be impossible to increase stadium capacity without blitzing a significant part of it. " Wouldn't be a huge issue" ? Suppose it wouldn't if it's a semi rebuild.
Anyway Cherwell will put a limit on capacitoy as OCC did on the Kassam.
What we will be getting is a replica of the Doncaster stadium. - a few more than their 15.5k capacity. - but spatially just like that plus some hotel rooms with a pitch view. Have a look at the L2 semi final that is still on Sky atm for reference.
In my opinion the submitted design is too small and I reckon many of our fans will feel the same. - all the other facilities will be wonderful but isn't it a new football stadium that we are after, not a 24 hour commercial project that happens to have a football pitch behind it?
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Alongside OUSP, we met with the stadium project team at the exhibition in September. This meeting lasted over two hours and every aspect of design and planning was discussed. I asked the question about the possibility to expand if demand warranted it. The response was;

Absolutely yes they can, and they'd be able to do this without increasing the footprint of the stadium. This could be achieved in incremental increases, but this would only happen once they were sure that there was sufficient demand as they want to optimise attendance rather than having large sections of empty seats. However, it was important to get the plans approved in their current form before any discussions about adding seats could take place.

Regarding future capacity, I asked if the original option for 18k was achievable? They said yes. I asked about 20k? They said probably yes. I asked if they could go higher? They laughed and said it would take a lot of work if they did!

They were, however, clear that the plans were for a 16k stadium and no more at this time and that this needed approval before anything else could even be discussed. And any changes would need to go back through planning, so this is all entirely hypothetical at this time. But I had no reason not to believe that expansion was possible.

 

[beyondthefourth]

Scotchers, I have always respected your views but I cannot let this go without comment.
The submitted design will be impossible to increase stadium capacity without blitzing a significant part of it. " Wouldn't be a huge issue" ? Suppose it wouldn't if it's a semi rebuild.
Anyway Cherwell will put a limit on capacitoy as OCC did on the Kassam.
What we will be getting is a replica of the Doncaster stadium. - a few more than their 15.5k capacity. - but spatially just like that plus some hotel rooms with a pitch view. Have a look at the L2 semi final that is still on Sky atm for reference.
In my opinion the submitted design is too small and I reckon many of our fans will feel the same. - all the other facilities will be wonderful but isn't it a new football stadium that we are after, not a 24 hour commercial project that happens to have a football pitch behind it?
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I'd take any football pitch that is in our own name. That, and anything that helps get the project greenlit, is the priority - more so than the capacity.

 

[Discoland]

Scotchers, I have always respected your views but I cannot let this go without comment.
The submitted design will be impossible to increase stadium capacity without blitzing a significant part of it. " Wouldn't be a huge issue" ? Suppose it wouldn't if it's a semi rebuild.
Anyway Cherwell will put a limit on capacitoy as OCC did on the Kassam.
What we will be getting is a replica of the Doncaster stadium. - a few more than their 15.5k capacity. - but spatially just like that plus some hotel rooms with a pitch view. Have a look at the L2 semi final that is still on Sky atm for reference.
In my opinion the submitted design is too small and I reckon many of our fans will feel the same. - all the other facilities will be wonderful but isn't it a new football stadium that we are after, not a 24 hour commercial project that happens to have a football pitch behind it?
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We have some very generous owners building a 16k state of the art stadium, I'm not saying we bow down to them at every opportunity but our club will die by 2027 if this doesn't get done. 16k is plenty for the timebeing, once we're established in the Championship then we can worry about more.

Our stadium will also be a lot nicer than Doncaster - ours will be surrounded by plenty of gardens in Kidlington to sh*t in before matches.

 

[Cartman]

I think some fans are being shortsighted a bit when it comes to the stadium and what it will mean for the growth of the club. We fill out or near fill out our stadium now and that will only increase even more with this upcoming season especially against the likes of Sunderland, Mboro, etc. Regardless of their reasons for not getting down to Oxford to watch a game in person, the large number of fans we took to Wembley shows that the support is there, so if we stabilize in the championship for a few years, no doubt in my mind we can reach 16k every game and then go from there.

Owners seem to be in this for the long haul imo and that is all gravy. Let them roll with their visions for our club and see what happens.

Not saying any on here mind(At least from what I have read) are against the new stadium. No true supporter would be.

Embrace the future, we are a club on the up in more ways than one and I am excited about that.

 

[LowerSouth]

Scotchers, I have always respected your views but I cannot let this go without comment.
The submitted design will be impossible to increase stadium capacity without blitzing a significant part of it. " Wouldn't be a huge issue" ? Suppose it wouldn't if it's a semi rebuild.
Anyway Cherwell will put a limit on capacitoy as OCC did on the Kassam.
What we will be getting is a replica of the Doncaster stadium. - a few more than their 15.5k capacity. - but spatially just like that plus some hotel rooms with a pitch view. Have a look at the L2 semi final that is still on Sky atm for reference.
In my opinion the submitted design is too small and I reckon many of our fans will feel the same. - all the other facilities will be wonderful but isn't it a new football stadium that we are after, not a 24 hour commercial project that happens to have a football pitch behind it?
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Surely the lesson learnt from our tenure at the Kassam, is that any ambitious club, cannot prosper by gate monies alone .
Like you, I would love a starter for 20/25,000 in its purest form.
But that isn’t possible in the city of Oxford .
There are apparently no sites available to accommodate same .
The triangle is maybe Hobsons choice and somewhat compromised, but we have to have faith that our owners have figured this out .
On the other hand maybe this is all a ploy to finally prise away ownership of the Kassam and redevelop it into something approaching a 21st century sports and entertainment facility ?

 

[Royalstandard74]

Beadle returning is absolute pie in the sky. He played his part this season but we have seen the last of Beadle in an Oxford shirt. Forget it. Time to find 'the next' James Beadle. Brighton recalled him to test him against higher calibre opposition and to play in front of large crowds. Coming back to Oxford would make zero sense for his development.

Surely if he comes back here, he will have more shots to save and be a lot busier, so that will help his development! Welcome back Beadle!

 

[Village-Yellow]

Scotchers, I have always respected your views but I cannot let this go without comment.
The submitted design will be impossible to increase stadium capacity without blitzing a significant part of it. " Wouldn't be a huge issue" ? Suppose it wouldn't if it's a semi rebuild.
Anyway Cherwell will put a limit on capacitoy as OCC did on the Kassam.
What we will be getting is a replica of the Doncaster stadium. - a few more than their 15.5k capacity. - but spatially just like that plus some hotel rooms with a pitch view. Have a look at the L2 semi final that is still on Sky atm for reference.
In my opinion the submitted design is too small and I reckon many of our fans will feel the same. - all the other facilities will be wonderful but isn't it a new football stadium that we are after, not a 24 hour commercial project that happens to have a football pitch behind it?
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I think you have to accept that to make this whole project viable a 24 hour, 7 day a week facility is the only way.

No way a stadium designed more specifically for use 23 times a year plus a few extra cup games is viable.

Sadly this whole project lost something when the only option became the triangle. Not suggesting that this will not be a great facility, but it will certainly not become the original dream, which is a shame.

 

[battman]

How have we got onto in-depth stadium chat in the summer transfer thread? Let’s try to keep it on topic.

Have we signed anyone yet?

 

[Bornyellow]

Joe Bennett - free
Marc Leonard - 300k
Josh Murphy - free
Tyrese Campbell - free

First four?

Really can’t see Tyrese Campbell being an option, believe he left Stoke as he believes he can do better. The longer he’s a free agent I suppose you never know.

 

[bazzer9461]

Really can’t see Tyrese Campbell being an option, believe he left Stoke as he believes he can do better. The longer he’s a free agent I suppose you never know.

Isn’t that the Tyrese Campbell at the cobblers?

 

[Bornyellow]

Isn’t that the Tyrese Campbell at the cobblers?

Tyrese Campbell turned down a new deal at Stoke, Tyreece Simpson was on loan at Northampton from Huddersfield.

 

[Leysboy]

I think you have to accept that to make this whole project viable a 24 hour, 7 day a week facility is the only way.

No way a stadium designed more specifically for use 23 times a year plus a few extra cup games is viable.

Sadly this whole project lost something when the only option became the triangle. Not suggesting that this will not be a great facility, but it will certainly not become the original dream, which is a shame.

And we know who is responsible for letting down the local communities and the wider or County as a whole.

Selfish nimbys.

 

[North Wales Yellow]

Really can’t see Tyrese Campbell being an option, believe he left Stoke as he believes he can do better. The longer he’s a free agent I suppose you never know.

His old man could still do a job I reckon

 

[neyo]

Like reading your stuff on the blackpool forum fella I tried getting in their forum last season but the keep rejecting me but you say all that needs to be said wether it being banter or defending our club great stuff.

Hahaha - thanks mate, didn't realise I was noted away from this place. But yeh, I have a laugh over there tbf, they've accepted me with countering views - I think as fans we often get caught up in own bubble - so i'm there to pop it! Hahaha

 

[neyo]

I rate Beadle - but a part of me thinks...

Do I prefer to loan a keeper again (like Beadle) and defer the problem of having and developing our own keeper? Let's be real, we won't get Beadle permanently, so would it not be better to get Jamie or alike in and level them up with us?

 

[OUFCReport]

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

Or Georgios Baldockonnis, as he is now known.

 

[Marked Ox]

Or Georgios Baldockonnis, as he is now known.

Easier just to go straight to Gorgeous Baldockonnis.

 

[Jaboysmith]

 

[KidInTheRiot]

my school of thought is we should be solving for two things 1) squad that can keep us in the championship 2) squad that can challenge to get us right back up if we come down

For me Beadle would be best bet for 1) but Cummings would be best best for 2) as he’d be our player, should develop with a years Championship experience under his belt.

I think our signings will show us how the owners are setting us up for 1) or for 2) or a balance of both (1.5?)