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Current Player Thread Stanley Mills

Boris said:
It's difficult to get relegated if there isn't a club! But I'm led to believe that the doomsday scenario might have been shelved for now, although possibly at the expense of further, less apocalyptic, pain.

Sorry if this all sounds a bit cryptic but I'm writing under the twin restraints of confidentiality and conflicting messages
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Ars you led to believe that thd stadium will still proceed?
Pretty apocalyptic if not.
 
holdsteady said:
I am guessing the options were shut the club down or sell loads of players to run the club for the season, to the extent that relegation is very likely? And that it looks likely to be the latter?

Where that leaves us in a years time, with league 2 income and I am guessing a still weak squad is going to be interesting, as the debt will still be there, we will still be running at a loss, but it looks likely it all hinges on the ground and Erick being allowed some money or the near mythical investor riding into save the day.
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I would think that whatever happens , they will try very hard to not be relegated.
In L1 there are some very good teams but some small clubs with low budgets.
So even selling Mills, BDK, Currie ( as an example) should leave us with enough decent players to avoid the drop with good coaching and a siege mentality
 
ITK PNE-supporting friend telling me that Stan is in Preston today to discuss his transfer. Said it involves a 'big fee', but not as big as the £4.5m they paid for Devine.

Will be gutted to see him leave but I guess we can't turn down significant money like that...
 
brinyhoof said:
ITK PNE-supporting friend telling me that Stan is in Preston today to discuss his transfer. Said it involves a 'big fee', but not as big as the £4.5m they paid for Devine.

Will be gutted to see him leave but I guess we can't turn down significant money like that...
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The poor guy has spent more time in Preston this summer than he has in Oxford.
 
Foley said:
I would think that whatever happens , they will try very hard to not be relegated.
In L1 there are some very good teams but some small clubs with low budgets.
So even selling Mills, BDK, Currie ( as an example) should leave us with enough decent players to avoid the drop with good coaching and a siege mentality
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That sounds rather too perilously close to last year's situation for comfort- strengthening the squad with players with potential is the obvious way forward in Jan.
 
Carpy said:
£4m in the market today does not feel incredible, not for a player who performed as well as one that just went for £20m in the same team and league last season.
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Totally agree.. £4m doesn't feel significant any more.. especially when we can't do anything with that money at the moment.
 
I think keeping Mills is vital to our chances of pushing for promotion/playoffs. Not sure who would play on the right side if he goes with Woo injured.
Obviously every player has a price - but would
be disappointing if we don’t get to see him play at all for us this season
 
Twiggy85 said:
I think keeping Mills is vital to our chances of pushing for promotion/playoffs. Not sure who would play on the right side if he goes with Woo injured.
Obviously every player has a price - but would
be disappointing if we don’t get to see him play at all for us this season
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Especially at that silly price
 
Carpy said:
£4m in the market today does not feel incredible, not for a player who performed as well as one that just went for £20m in the same team and league last season.
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True. In my eyes he's worth considerably more. But I guess he's only worth what other clubs are willing to pay. Also, it sounds like a sale of that size might be enough to get us out of the embargo from what others have said.

Get what you're saying about Lankshear. But strikers tend to carry a premium, particularly as that type of striker is pretty rare and sought after these days. Also the Lankshear sale is probably half of that up front. Total guess here but I imagine we're pushing for as much ££ up front as possible, given our situation.
 
Kyrell Lisbie went for £3 million having never played above League One. I’d hope we get a lot more for Mills, he’s the same age, has already made an impact in the Championship for a struggling side, and still has significant development to come. I’d say a minimum of £5 million, with the insistence on payment up front rather than in instalments (if that’s possible).
 
If we were to get £4m with a sell on clause if he plays premiership football or gets sold on of say 25% could be worth it
 
brinyhoof said:
ITK PNE-supporting friend telling me that Stan is in Preston today to discuss his transfer. Said it involves a 'big fee', but not as big as the £4.5m they paid for Devine.

Will be gutted to see him leave but I guess we can't turn down significant money like that...
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In the interview on Saturday, Ramsey said 'Obviously Stan is really important to what we're trying to achieve here'. Is that the remark of a manager who's battling to keep hold of a player? Sounded like it might be.

Sorba Thomas was rumoured to have moved to Stoke for around £2m a year ago, when he had a year left on his contract (as might Mills?). Now the fee being reported for a move to West Ham is £10m. I honestly think PNE could be looking at a similar profit.

But we're talking about a player who could be the difference between gaining promotion and missing out. It seems like Ramsey knows it, and the financial consequence of that would eclipse any transfer fee.
 
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HillBilly said:
In the interview on Saturday, Ramsey said 'Obviously Stan is really important to what we're trying to achieve here'. Is that the remark of a manager who's battling to keep hold of a player? Sounded like it might be.

Sorba Thomas was rumoured to have moved to Stoke for around £2m a year ago, when he had a year left on his contract (as might Mills?). Now the fee being reported for a move to West Ham is £10m. I honestly think PNE could be looking at a similar profit.

But we're talking about a player who could be the difference between gaining promotion and missing out. It seems like Ramsey knows it, and the financial consequence of that could eclipse any transfer fee.
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Stan should at least have an option for what would be year 3.5
 
Manorlounger said:
I cannot see the club letting him go willingly. The price would have to represent how much he means to the club and more than compensate for his loss. It's not a case of sell and buy someone new. We don't have that option.
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Not convinced by that albeit none of us know for sure. @Colin B indicated in a separate thread that if we sold one player for a decent fee/removed their wages, that might be enough to get the embargo lifted.
 
Wallop said:
Not convinced by that albeit none of us know for sure. @Colin B indicated in a separate thread that if we sold one player for a decent fee/removed their wages, that might be enough to get the embargo lifted.
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As far as I can interpret, the rules indicate that the income from player sales cannot be simply reused to buy another player. The grounds for the embargo would have to be lifted to allow registration of players other than when the below 23 players clause triggers. And even then, that player must be a free agent or, free loan.
Any funds generated from sales would be subject to the same 65% level with 35% to be spent on infrastructure etc. Mills would have to sell for an awful lot of money to meet the SCMP demands.
 
Has it been confirmed anywhere if / what amount Everton are due as a sell-on ? If its a large % surely only worth selling to anyone at this point if its an absolutely amazing bid ?
 
I’d be gutted to see Stan go for a measly £4m. That’s just not enough for what he is today and what he could be one day, especially when we’ve given him basically all his professional minutes.

Just as much up side as Lankshear on last season’s evidence but I accept we don’t have the clout of being a premier league club. Azeez was getting £20m bids in January and I can’t see why Stan couldn’t match his numbers in a better side in the second tier.

As I’ve said before, if he were contracted to Everton you’re talking multiples of 2 or 3 on that fee and a sell on. I want to see us sending players on to greater things but that’s miles off market imo, especially with Jin Woo out and no ability to replace.

Pay up or p**s off would be my stance on this one.
 
Bloody hell, there can’t be any other club that has you feeling like you’re on a f*****g roller coaster like ours.

One minute the hope starts to return with the knowledge that our chairman is a real person who might actually be invested, committed and starting to make decent decisions.

And then the next minute I’m hearing that, despite assurances, the clubs only right winger might be off.

All in one day….
 
Other clubs seem to get top dollar, why can't we? I'd love him to stay, he's probably the difference between us being mid table or pushing.
I wouldn't take less than 4M.
 
Under The Cuckoo Lane said:
Other clubs seem to get top dollar, why can't we? I'd love him to stay, he's probably the difference between us being mid table or pushing.
I wouldn't take less than 4M.
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Agree, we can't sign a replacement so there should be a premium for that.

Why Preston though? He'll spend his time there finishing between 9th and 13th. A boring club.
 
I get the impression that Stan likes being at Oxford, but I'm not sure that would be enough to keep a player of his age in League One for a year (at least), when he could spend that year developing his career in the championship.
 
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