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Scotchegg
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It's also irrelevant. All experts were predicting a GE around now, but Sunak went early because he knew things were going to get a lot worse. We were always going to see a difficult first 6/12 months.
That doesn't mean that Starmer has been faultless. The Winter Fuel issue has been a major fook up, with the cut off point being set far too low. And there have been far too few easy wins which could and should have offset some of the negativity.
But even coming from a family with farming backgrounds, I don't think that the Inheritance Tax is that much of an issue that is widely felt across the country. The numbers affected appear to be much smaller than is being presented and will have a bigger impact against the very rich rather than the average family farm. It's certainly not the massive vote winner that the Tories and others think by latching on to it, and as one commentator said, Badenoch has already committed to overturning the WFP and the Farm Tax which are too very expensive policies to nail down with 4.5 years to go.
There's so long to go that these early months in Government will be quickly forgotten if people start to feel better off as a consequence or see real changes to our public services and beyond.
If anyone is relying on the next election being fought on a popularity contest of the leaders then I'm not sure anyone wins.
That doesn't mean that Starmer has been faultless. The Winter Fuel issue has been a major fook up, with the cut off point being set far too low. And there have been far too few easy wins which could and should have offset some of the negativity.
But even coming from a family with farming backgrounds, I don't think that the Inheritance Tax is that much of an issue that is widely felt across the country. The numbers affected appear to be much smaller than is being presented and will have a bigger impact against the very rich rather than the average family farm. It's certainly not the massive vote winner that the Tories and others think by latching on to it, and as one commentator said, Badenoch has already committed to overturning the WFP and the Farm Tax which are too very expensive policies to nail down with 4.5 years to go.
There's so long to go that these early months in Government will be quickly forgotten if people start to feel better off as a consequence or see real changes to our public services and beyond.
If anyone is relying on the next election being fought on a popularity contest of the leaders then I'm not sure anyone wins.
Will be interesting to see at what number this petition stops, even Liz Truss didn’t get a petition for an election and she was an absolute basket case.
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Petition: Call a General Election
I would like there to be another General Election. I believe the current Labour Government have gone back on the promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election.
petition.parliament.uk
Sheik djibouti
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This will be about as futile as the petition to ask for another Brexit voteWill be interesting to see at what number this petition stops, even Liz Truss didn’t get a petition for an election and she was an absolute basket case.
Petition: Call a General Election
I would like there to be another General Election. I believe the current Labour Government have gone back on the promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election.
That was never going to happen, just as a general election won't be happening any time soon. Seems like more than a few need to dry their eyes and get used to it
I'm sure the next 4.5 years will fly by
Scotchegg
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She wasn't there long enough for anyone to organise a petition.
I do find it interesting that those who were effectively saying that people have to suck up Trump bring President because he was democratically elected, or that Brexit was the will of the people, are now asking to another GE because they didn't win. (Not specifically aimed at this poster or the forum, but socials as a whole)
Village-Yellow
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This is the gamble.
If the huge tax raid on businesses actually turns out to have an adverse affect in terms of pay levels, employment opportunities/redundancies/cost cutting/business growth etc, but at the same time contributes to inflationary pressures, it is going to prove to be a very testing situation with pressure increasing from those currently prepared to give this the fair and reasonable time frame to let policies filter through.
If the economy doesn't grow, the money will simply not be generated for public services to improve (unless they want to break the debt model again), so it will be interesting to see what the mood is in 3-4 years time.
Village-Yellow
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Will be interesting to see at what number this petition stops, even Liz Truss didn’t get a petition for an election and she was an absolute basket case.
Petition: Call a General Election
I would like there to be another General Election. I believe the current Labour Government have gone back on the promises they laid out in the lead up to the last election.
Lol... that is just nuts.
Do you think they want Des gone too?
Sheik djibouti
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Heaven only knows what they would have done about Josh Murphy last season eitherLol... that is just nuts.
Do you think they want Des gone too?
She got a cabbage instead
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Essexyellows
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Who was it that said.............. "lawbreakers can't be lawmakers"? Its in Hansard in case you don`t know.... 
Its going to be a long few years to wait for any good news....
Transport secretary Louise Haigh quits after fraud offence revealed
Haigh's departure is the first cabinet resignation under Sir Keir Starmer's government.
www.bbc.co.uk
Its going to be a long few years to wait for any good news....
Village-Yellow
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Who was it that said.............. "lawbreakers can't be lawmakers"? Its in Hansard in case you don`t know....
Transport secretary Louise Haigh quits after fraud offence revealed
Haigh's departure is the first cabinet resignation under Sir Keir Starmer's government.www.bbc.co.uk
Its going to be a long few years to wait for any good news....
If this is the level of offence that is needed to prompt a resignation, we are all doomed.
What exactly was the issue here, other than an error regarding the loss of a mobile phone after having been mugged?
May as well sack every MP who has ever had a parking ticket.
QR
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How many mobile phones did Johnson, Sunak etc 'lose'?
Essexyellows
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The error seems to have been that she hadn`t lost the phone in the mugging, subsequently found it and didn`t tell the plod.
Aviva (her employer at the time) is not commenting on other phones she may (or may not) have lost.
Some are reporting is as making a false report to the police, others as fraud.
So much for rehabilitation.............
Essexyellows
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Sheik djibouti
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The difference being of course that all of Sunak's and Johnsons (and Patels and Bell and Pincher and Menzies and Wragg and Anderson and Benton and Blunt and Bone etc etc etc - the list goes one and on) misdimeanors were committed whilst they were serving MP's, as opposed to prior to being an MP.
But yeah . . .they're all as bad as each other
But yeah . . .they're all as bad as each other
Scotchegg
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Do you think that everyone should declare previous criminal convictions regardless of how long ago they were or whether they have learnt and moved on?So much for rehabilitation.............
Essexyellows
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Much depends on the reason for why the declaration is requested.
You have to declare everything for a FAC even those convictions that are spent, including expired driving convictions.
You have to complete a DBS check for a lot of public sector roles.
I doubt you have to do either to work in other jobs.
So someone wanting to stand as an MP should declare everything and let others decide based on their transparency and honesty.
QR
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Because either they didn't actual lose them or they didn't want them found!!!Not so sure they ever reported them as stolen when they weren`t.
