National News Sir Keir Starmer

Village-Yellow said:
I'm not concerned about the previous shower, if that is what you are getting at.

I'm concerned about the decisions that are being made now. We need decisions that improve the economy, not make it any worse.

Did the electorate not vote for the promised changes?

To keep looking back to apportion blame should not make this acceptable and is certainly not an excuse any longer.

The business sentiment at the moment is because of the autumn statement and it was immediately obvious it was going to be damaging. Forget any other "global challenges", they have been around for quite some time now, in one form or another.
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It is nothing about apportioning blame but does suggest structural issues in the economy that predate this Govt rather than an Employers NI rise being the cause.
 
Marked Ox said:
It is nothing about apportioning blame but does suggest structural issues in the economy that predate this Govt rather than an Employers NI rise being the cause.
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I guess we disagree on the impact such a targeted tax hike will have on an employers ability to employ additional staff or offer reasonable pay increases.

Unfortunately it is very much about apportioning blame as this still seems to be the Labour stance.

Structural issues or not, the NI hike is very damaging. If only they could have been brave and reversed that ridiculous employees NI cut by the Conservatives.
 
Village-Yellow said:
I guess we disagree on the impact such a targeted tax hike will have on an employers ability to employ additional staff or offer reasonable pay increases.

Unfortunately it is very much about apportioning blame as this still seems to be the Labour stance.

Structural issues or not, the NI hike is very damaging. If only they could have been brave and reversed that ridiculous employees NI cut by the Conservatives.
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How is it apportioning blame by me?

It is fact that something else caused the same situation in the previous 2 years but you are dismissing that and blaming the Employer NI increase for this year.
 
I was made redundant last year and after a year without a break I took a few weeks off to do a long list of jobs that needed doing at home then sit on a beach in Zante for a couple of weeks before starting job hunting refreshed and looking forward to a new challenge. I was fortunate to get a well paid temporary job for christmas and hoped I would be kept on but was told the order book was worryingly empty for Jan so regrettably I would be let go. When I started looking in January every agency I spoke to said that January is always the worst month and they hoped it would get better but companies had already started preparing for the budget and vacancies were much lower this year. When im searching now the number of jobs available is 1/3rd less than there was in January. We have gone from an awful government to a worse government, to suggest that was a budget for growth shows how f*****g inept she/they are. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, Starmer is amazing at it, but had I known how inept they would be, how many lies they would tell and how much they would make a bad situation worse I would have been looking for a new job as soon as I found out I was going. How they sleep at night I dont know.
 
Marked Ox said:
How is it apportioning blame by me?

It is fact that something else caused the same situation in the previous 2 years but you are dismissing that and blaming the Employer NI increase for this year.
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Not apportioning blame by you.. it is blame apportioned by the government.

Whatever has caused the issues of the previous 2 years, the Labour government were voted in to bring promised improvements.

I do not see that the NI increase has in any way helped.

By all means explain to me or point me in the right direction to an article that explains how targeting employers with a huge NI hike is a good thing and is supporting employers, business growth and confidence,

The article I posted was pretty clear... UK Job markets weaken as employment costs grow. Current news, current dilemmas caused by an increase in employment costs. An increase as a result of the autumn statement.

Again, happy to be corrected if you can explain to me how employment costs and the additional burden on businesses has risen other than as a result of current policy.

Find me an accountant/business consultant on here that has not heard the woes of businesses and their current concerns as a result of these changes, because I certainly haven't.
 
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Village-Yellow said:
As is your love for them.
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I don't actually love them I've said many times parts of trumps policies I don't like and I have named them multiple times i just refuse to get involved in the uncontrollable bedwetting that seems to go on whenever the USA or Trump is mentioned. IAnd if you really have to ask what's worse a communist regime that persecuted it's own citizens, bans desenting media and is actively enslaving a great chunk of its Muslim population? Or the USA which to my knowledge isn't. Then really I don't hold up much hope of meaningful conversation.
 
Matty Greens Left Boot said:
I don't actually love them I've said many times parts of trumps policies I don't like and I have named them multiple times i just refuse to get involved in the uncontrollable bedwetting that seems to go on whenever the USA or Trump is mentioned. IAnd if you really have to ask what's worse a communist regime that persecuted it's own citizens, bans desenting media and is actively enslaving a great chunk of its Muslim population? Or the USA which to my knowledge isn't. Then really I don't hold up much hope of meaningful conversation.
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Really?
 
Village-Yellow said:
Not apportioning blame by you.. it is blame apportioned by the government.

Whatever has caused the issues of the previous 2 years, the Labour government were voted in to bring promised improvements.

I do not see that the NI increase has in any way helped.

By all means explain to me or point me in the right direction to an article that explains how targeting employers with a huge NI hike is a good thing and is supporting employers, business growth and confidence,

The article I posted was pretty clear... UK Job markets weaken as employment costs grow. Current news, current dilemmas caused by an increase in employment costs. An increase as a result of the autumn statement.

Again, happy to be corrected if you can explain to me how employment costs and the additional burden on businesses has risen other than as a result of current policy.

Find me an accountant/business consultant on here that has not heard the woes of businesses and their current concerns as a result of these changes, because I certainly haven't.
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They've not had a year yet.

I've haven't said the NI rise is a good thing. But you appear to have put all the fall on the NI rise whilst dismissing the existing problems in the system or any external impacts.
 
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Matty Greens Left Boot said:
I don't actually love them I've said many times parts of trumps policies I don't like and I have named them multiple times i just refuse to get involved in the uncontrollable bedwetting that seems to go on whenever the USA or Trump is mentioned. IAnd if you really have to ask what's worse a communist regime that persecuted it's own citizens, bans desenting media and is actively enslaving a great chunk of its Muslim population? Or the USA which to my knowledge isn't. Then really I don't hold up much hope of meaningful conversation.
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Give it a few months and the US will be there. Bookmark this.
 
Matty Greens Left Boot said:
I don't actually love them I've said many times parts of trumps policies I don't like and I have named them multiple times i just refuse to get involved in the uncontrollable bedwetting that seems to go on whenever the USA or Trump is mentioned. IAnd if you really have to ask what's worse a communist regime that persecuted it's own citizens, bans desenting media and is actively enslaving a great chunk of its Muslim population? Or the USA which to my knowledge isn't. Then really I don't hold up much hope of meaningful conversation.
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