National News Sir Keir Starmer

[Sheik djibouti]

Our resident Labour representative in tatters tonight after another Keir masterclass.

2020 - we'll abolish tuition fees.
2023 - we're dropping our pledge to abolish tuition fees.
2024 - we're increasing tuition fees.

... I wonder what 2025 has in store!

4 more years of the current Labour government while we all chuckle at the Conservative party (aka the Kemi Kulture War Klub) continuing to devour itself like bald men fighting over a comb.

Never mind

Anyway, a paltry £285 rise on a fee that has been unsustainably frozen since 2017, whilst the cost of everything else has gone through the roof is hardly a biggy. . . and probably nowhere near what is needed to stop some Higher Education institutions going to the wall or at least facing severe financial difficulties in the not too distant future. Unless of course they are allowed to attract even greater numbers of lucrative foreign students to make ends meet. . . .

I also notice the usual suspects neglect to mention that maintenance loans will also be going up in line with inflation - about time.

And aren't "the right" normally the ones carping on about too many going into higher education and doing useless degrees? Maybe this will make a few more think twice and get a proper job rather than being a lazy student scrounger. The Daily Mail readers will LOVE that!

Refreshing isn't it to have a government that will adapt its position based on facts and reality, rather than blind dogmatic nonsense, and take unpopular decisions for the benefit of more that just their mates. Going to take quite some time to undo all those years of neglect of everything other than self-interest.

 

[bazzer9461]

4 more years of the current Labour government while we all chuckle at the Conservative party (aka the Kemi Kulture War Klub) continuing to devour itself like bald men fighting over a comb.

Never mind

Anyway, a paltry £285 rise on a fee that has been unsustainably frozen since 2017, whilst the cost of everything else has gone through the roof is hardly a biggy. . . and probably nowhere near what is needed to stop some Higher Education institutions going to the wall or at least facing severe financial difficulties in the not too distant future. Unless of course they are allowed to attract even greater numbers of lucrative foreign students to make ends meet. . . .

I also notice the usual suspects neglect to mention that maintenance loans will also be going up in line with inflation - about time.

And aren't "the right" normally the ones carping on about too many going into higher education and doing useless degrees? Maybe this will make a few more think twice and get a proper job rather than being a lazy student scrounger. The Daily Mail readers will LOVE that!

Refreshing isn't it to have a government that will adapt its position based on facts and reality, rather than blind dogmatic nonsense, and take unpopular decisions for the benefit of more that just their mates. Going to take quite some time to undo all those years of neglect of everything other than self-interest.

But but but he was abolishing them so more bull s**t from two tier Starmer

 

[bashamwonderland]

4 more years of the current Labour government while we all chuckle at the Conservative party (aka the Kemi Kulture War Klub) continuing to devour itself like bald men fighting over a comb.

Never mind

Anyway, a paltry £285 rise on a fee that has been unsustainably frozen since 2017, whilst the cost of everything else has gone through the roof is hardly a biggy. . . and probably nowhere near what is needed to stop some Higher Education institutions going to the wall or at least facing severe financial difficulties in the not too distant future. Unless of course they are allowed to attract even greater numbers of lucrative foreign students to make ends meet. . . .

I also notice the usual suspects neglect to mention that maintenance loans will also be going up in line with inflation - about time.

And aren't "the right" normally the ones carping on about too many going into higher education and doing useless degrees? Maybe this will make a few more think twice and get a proper job rather than being a lazy student scrounger. The Daily Mail readers will LOVE that!

Refreshing isn't it to have a government that will adapt its position based on facts and reality, rather than blind dogmatic nonsense, and take unpopular decisions for the benefit of more that just their mates. Going to take quite some time to undo all those years of neglect of everything other than self-interest.

Yesssss stick to the party line! Get in!

I can just imagine it now - Keir introduces poll tax in 2025. You and QR coming together to argue in favour of it

 

[The Voice Of Reason]

My mate used to fix blood testing machines in hospitals, he always said the amount of wasted money was incredible. One example he still quotes is radiators jammed on full bore and all the windows open.

I used to buy catering equipment at auction, they also auctioned medical equipment, the NHS got rid of so much good kit, with a quick once over it was good to export! They had so many beds because one hospital won't close a unit and the so would one next door, then when they reopen it it's new beds madness...

We waste so.much in defence spending by not penalizing the contractors even tho it's in the contract.

Government needs to be run by business people not politicians who just wanna get in in 5 yrs time

 

[Sheik djibouti]

But but but he was abolishing them so more bull s**t from two tier Starmer

So, absolutely nothing has changed in the world since 2020?

I can think of a few things (as well as Starmers position on tuition fees) that have (pandemics, wars, hyper inflation as a bit of a hint). I've no doubt that in an ideal world, the Labour Party would still aspire to abolish tuition fees...and who knows, they still might at some point over the next decade. I'm not really sure that anyone is getting that hot under the collar about it though.

I also have to say, I think you're the only person I've ever seen who calls him Two Tier Starmer

It's Two Tier KIER......

Because KIER rhymes with TIER

Geddit.....

Maybe you could call him "I hate Farmers, Starmer" instead.....that rhymes

Anyway, I'd be slightly more concerned by what Kemi and.the Kulture War Klub are about to embark upon. I predict it will be as terrifying and batshit crazy as it is amusing....buckle up!

 

[bashamwonderland]

So, absolutely nothing has changed in the world since 2020?

I can think of a few things (as well as Starmers position on tuition fees) that have (pandemics, wars, hyper inflation as a bit of a hint). I've no doubt that in an ideal world, the Labour Party would still aspire to abolish tuition fees...and who knows, they still might at some point over the next decade. I'm not really sure that anyone is getting that hot under the collar about it though.

 

[Sheik djibouti]

Yesssss stick to the party line! Get in!

I can just imagine it now - Keir introduces poll tax in 2025. You and QR coming together to argue in favour of it

You seem like an intelligent chap, so I'm sure the irony of calling me out for 'toeing the party line' is not lost on you, given the content of your original post on the subject. I mean, it's almost like you're writing Laura Trotts lines for her

And as you're an intelligent chap, I'd love to know what your solution is to the current funding crisis in Higher Education.

 

[QR]

And did he give the Tories s**t over student fees? And then puts them up so effectively he and the Labour Party are happy with the fees the Tories put on students.

Oh right, so now you want all those overseas students back do you? No? Oh so your want higher taxes then? No?

I disagree with university tuition fees but understand the abject financial situation there Tories left the country in (and believe me the negative impact of Brexit hasn't reached it's peak yet - there crowbarred it in).

Universities have been right royally screwed by the previous government playing to the racists. I wish the government had the cojonas to reverse this policy...... and then rejoin the customs union because nobody voted to leave it and indeed we were told we wouldn't.

 

[bazzer9461]

So, absolutely nothing has changed in the world since 2020?

I can think of a few things (as well as Starmers position on tuition fees) that have (pandemics, wars, hyper inflation as a bit of a hint). I've no doubt that in an ideal world, the Labour Party would still aspire to abolish tuition fees...and who knows, they still might at some point over the next decade. I'm not really sure that anyone is getting that hot under the collar about it though.

I also have to say, I think you're the only person I've ever seen who calls him Two Tier Starmer

It's Two Tier KIER......

Because KIER rhymes with TIER

Geddit.....

Maybe you could call him "I hate Farmers, Starmer" instead.....that rhymes

Anyway, I'd be slightly more concerned by what Kemi and.the Kulture War Klub are about to embark upon. I predict it will be as terrifying and batshit crazy as it is amusing....buckle up!

Personally bi don’t give Fcuk about two tier Kier or Starmer he’s lied to all you so called supporters and Thule thing is you believed him

 

[bazzer9461]

Oh right, so now you want so those overseas students back do you? No? Oh so your want higher taxes then? No?

I disagree with university tuition fees but understand the abject financial situation there Tories left the country in (and believe me the negative impact of Brexit hasn't reached it's peak yet - there crowbarred it in).

Universities have been right royally screwed by the previous government playing to the racists. I wish the government had the cojonas to reverse this policy...... and then rejoin the customs union because nobody voted to leave it and indeed we were told we wouldn't.

No it’s blatantly obvious Starmer and Reeves harp on about scrapping the union tuition fees but when they win the GE they knew that it was the right thing as they the Labour Party could inflict higher tabes on the UK public by increasing tax even further to pay for the student fees……but that’s ok it’s your political masters so it must be ok.

 

[Sheik djibouti]

Personally bi don’t give Fcuk about two tier Kier or Starmer he’s lied to all you so called supporters and Thule thing is you believed him

Ah right...so "change of policy based on the current situation" translates to "lie" in Bazzerese - gotcha!

I don't remember Starmer campaigning in the general election on a platform of scrapping tuition fees, must've missed that one.

Like I say, I'd much rather evidence based policy decisions than blindly following baseless dogmatic nonsense, so I'll leave that to the few Tories left

 

[chuckbert]

I love these arguments. “It’s not fair. Your bod did what our bods want to do. I don’t care that what is happening is what I would have voted for. I’m just annoyed that your bod is doing it.”

 

[m]

Government needs to be run by business people not politicians who just wanna get in in 5 yrs time

No thanks, I'd rather be a citizen than a customer.

 

[Essexyellows]

All that extra NHS money won`t just disappear into a void will it?

NHS consultants earning £200,000 in overtime to tackle backlog

Some consultants are being paid £200 an hour for working extra hours, a BBC News investigation finds.

www.bbc.co.uk

And then there are all the ancillary bits & admin.....

The Unions say "its staff shortages" and Wes says "it must be more efficient"................

 

[Eric Blair]

No thanks, I'd rather be a citizen than a customer.

Big thumbs up from me on this comment

 

[bashamwonderland]

You seem like an intelligent chap, so I'm sure the irony of calling me out for 'toeing the party line' is not lost on you, given the content of your original post on the subject. I mean, it's almost like you're writing Laura Trotts lines for her

And as you're an intelligent chap, I'd love to know what your solution is to the current funding crisis in Higher Education.

I think the difference is that I complimented Labour on their budget and called out the Tories many times since the "BoJo" days.

You're literally just regurgitating the party line. The Sheik I know would have been absolutely raging if the Tories had put up tuition fees.

This isn't you, Sheik. You're a Corbynista at heart. You haven't got the minerals to be a red Tory for five years.

 

[MattyGreensLeftBoot]

It seems that the relationship with Kiev has soured since Labour took over. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...kraine-has-worsened-since-labour-won-election trump's winning may be a threat to Ukraine but it seems so was Labours win.

 

[bazzer9461]

potential ambassador to the US Lord Mandelson said on the Laura Kurnssbeg that The Ukraine might have to give up its plans for NATO membership and concede some land to Russia to end the war, typical Labour what and abhorrent leader two tier Kier is. Labour are slowly but surely showing their pathetic true colours.

 

[Marked Ox]

potential ambassador to the US Lord Mandelson said on the Laura Kurnssbeg that The Ukraine might have to give up its plans for NATO membership and concede some land to Russia to end the war, typical Labour what and abhorrent leader two tier Kier is. Labour are slowly but surely showing their pathetic true colours.

Small point but it isn't called "The Ukraine", just Ukraine.

 

[bazzer9461]

Small point but it isn't called "The Ukraine", just Ukraine.

Just my way