National News Sir Keir Starmer

There must be something the voters believe they can get in return if they just turn the other cheek to all Boris’s shortcomings??
It's only the constituents of Uxbridge and South Ruislip that get to vote for Boris, everyone else is voting blue, red, yellow, green, purple or some other shade. Some will vote blue because anything else would be an anathema and if having Boris or Call me Dave or the Wicked Witch at the helm is the consequence, well at least it isn't one of the "other mob". As a Henley constituent, I've actually had the pleasure of not voting for Boris and that is exactly how it works.
 
Presumably, EssexYellows agrees with your first point, as I think he was alluding to exactly this in his post.
There must be something the voters believe they can get in return if they just turn the other cheek to all Boris’s shortcomings??
What do voters get in return - that is a very good question. I think the answer is that the Tories just love to paint a picture of hell on earth under any administration that isn't them....you'll be poorer, the streets will be more dangerous, your kids will be more stupid, you'll die younger, there'll be more foreigners, more countries will want to go to war with us, there'll be more terrorism....and worst of all they are EVIL socialists #gasp#........that sort of thing. And the popular media who support them are more than happy to help them with their messaging and more than happy to point out any perceived shortcomings of any potential opposition. Classic Whataboutism!

What DO the Tories offer? Boundless (and unachievable for the vast majority) hope and optimism and they are still on the "sunlit uplands" kick that won the Brexit argument (as well as the alternative project fear narrative around staying in of course). I am not sure if Boris believes his own rhetoric when he talks of "levelling up", but you only need to look at the contents of the Queens Speech today to see who the real beneficiaries are intended to be. It is owners and big business, with maybe a bit of trickle down (which has never worked in economic terms) for a lucky few. The proposed procurement bill will be interesting and I wonder just what restrictions (or more likely freedoms) Boris et al will give their chums when it comes to winning lucrative government contracts :unsure:

Making out that infrastructure "levelling up" is some kind of revolution is beyond comedy too. It is simply stopping us becoming a 3rd world country in digital and critical national infrastructure terms!

Good to see the Environment Bill finally getting the nod after numerous false dawns and postponements. Although I am sure that when the true cost to consumers and Local Authorities is realised, I wonder if the ambition will still be there.....

Borders and security - Pritti must be happy...she's getting her way on most everything. Lots of protests to come I suspect - while they are still legal of course! Not to mention voter suppression, which is almost as Orwellian as their doomed attempt at ID cards a while back. Straight outta the Trump playbook!

Lack of anything of note on social care whilst we are in the middle of the biggest social care crisis the nation has ever experienced is as scandalous as it is predictable.

So, same old, same old and just keep pointing out how and it might be under the other lot.
 
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So far he hasn`t actually been proved to have done anything wrong.
Despite the best effort to pin something on him, there have been no "charges" or the like.

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From the article:
"On the surface, it is an open-and-shut case of an MP receiving a donation and registering it fairly swiftly, as he should have done."

I`m not saying he is holier than thou but he`s the best person we have to lead the country right now.
We have to accept, grudgingly or not, that the people in power get benefits that we don`t, that is just how life is at the top of the tree.
Why is he the best person to lead the Country right now? What does he offer that others wouldn’t?
 
Why is he the best person to lead the Country right now? What does he offer that others wouldn’t?

Well the Queens Speech actually outlined some policy headlines.
Sir Keir is still relying on "I`m not Boris" to get votes.............. that is definitely not working.
Maybe Labour should actually come up with the policies as an alternative?
From about 5:22 on here........
 
Well the Queens Speech actually outlined some policy headlines.
Sir Keir is still relying on "I`m not Boris" to get votes.............. that is definitely not working.
Maybe Labour should actually come up with the policies as an alternative?
From about 5:22 on here........
I agree. It’s difficult to know what Starmer and the Labour Party stand for at the moment.
But this highlights my original point:
Why do so many Conservative voters feel the need to defend all of Johnson’s shortcomings?
If you’re a natural Conservative voter then of course you’ll vote for your Conservative MP. But surely that doesn’t mean you can’t criticise the leader!
The sort of mental gymnastics required to ignore Johnson’s ineptitude is akin to the slavish support the population of North Korea are required to do by law.
 
I agree. It’s difficult to know what Starmer and the Labour Party stand for at the moment.
But this highlights my original point:
Why do so many Conservative voters feel the need to defend all of Johnson’s shortcomings?
If you’re a natural Conservative voter then of course you’ll vote for your Conservative MP. But surely that doesn’t mean you can’t criticise the leader!
The sort of mental gymnastics required to ignore Johnson’s ineptitude is akin to the slavish support the population of North Korea are required to do by law.

That is more about balance.
He`s far from perfect however he is, like it or not, doing a good job steering the ship through the turbulent water.
Does that make his shortcomings less important? Probably.
Will his shortcomings finish him off? No.

Will Labour ever come up with policies the electorate can support? Unlikely, they seem too busy trying to "find themselves".
 
Sorry....Liebour went even lower when they jumped on the BLM bandwagon..........



Laughable party we wont be seeing in power for a generation.



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44% to the progressive alliance if they could get their bloody act together. I live in hope rather than expectation.

BTW you're confusing the source (in this case YouGov) with the medium through which the information is being communicated (Twitter). Easy mistake.

44% is still less than 46%, I know you struggle with that majority concept. :)
 
Give it t’Burnham ‘til the end of this parliamentary session!

In all seriousness, Starmer is now looking exposed. It may still be early days but nothing much has changed under him. He’s precise at speaking but has the charisma of a wet sponge at the dispatch box and acts as though he’s a barrister carefully unhooking a complex case when a bit more bluster would help. Make yourself noticeable, man! Give us something - even a sound bite - to jump onto. It’s all too nice and congenial from him. Blair would have had Johnson on toast.

I can’t for the life of me think why anyone would vote for this government again. But on the flip side, I can think of a good reason to vote for Labour either.
 
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