Shotts comments last night

[Ox4Eva]

Great to hear he has so much love for the club still and passion which is sadly lacking with most of our players these days!

He made some interesting comments about his time as manager. He never came across as bitter in any way but did say he was forced to offload players and there was a lot of lies behind the scenes. He never said anymore, but it was interesting to hear.

 

[West Oxon U’s]

The most relevant word he never mentioned began with a K and has a couple of S’s in it.

 

[Gary Baldi]

KISS? Did Gene Simmons ever go to the Manor?

 

[bazzer9461]

Great to hear he has so much love for the club still and passion which is sadly lacking with most of our players these days!

He made some interesting comments about his time as manager. He never came across as bitter in any way but did say he was forced to offload players and there was a lot of lies behind the scenes. He never said anymore, but it was interesting to hear.

That was all down to the c**t who is known as Kassam

 

[Sarge]

KISS? Did Gene Simmons ever go to the Manor?

Heard he's a bit of a closet scummer.....if he did go to manor he'd 've tounge away with the scum who run away

 

[Gary Baldi]

Heard he's a bit of a closet scummer.....if he did go to manor he'd 've tounge away with the scum who run away

What about Ace Frehley?

 

[Sarge]

Great to hear he has so much love for the club still and passion which is sadly lacking with most of our players these days!

He made some interesting comments about his time as manager. He never came across as bitter in any way but did say he was forced to offload players and there was a lot of lies behind the scenes. He never said anymore, but it was interesting to hear.

Very accurately and astutely identified a lot of what's wrong in how OUFC set up and played last night .....would make an excellent defensive coach IMO

His revelation about him n Rambo starting their intimidation of the opposition when lining up pre match in the tunnel made me laugh..... and realise just how powder puff like our current batch of cbs are in comparison too.....different times Now, but Briggs n shotts had an aura of menace and an attitude that screamed they shall not pass. Those were the days!

 

[windmill]

Great to hear he has so much love for the club still and passion which is sadly lacking with most of our players these days!

He made some interesting comments about his time as manager. He never came across as bitter in any way but did say he was forced to offload players and there was a lot of lies behind the scenes. He never said anymore, but it was interesting to hear.

Shotts never cut it as a manager. Throwing his scarf into the beech road stand as a parting gift. Whenever questioned post match on an away defeat all we got was "Well, you were there, what do you think?" Absolute legend but came up short when in charge.....perhaps.".distance lends enchancement" and all that. Great that our result is the first he looks for. Top man.

 

[Sarge]

What about Ace Frehley?

Baseball fan wasn't he?

 

[Sarge]

Shotts never cut it as a manager. Throwing his scarf into the beech road stand as a parting gift. Whenever questioned post match on an away defeat all we got was "Well, you were there, what do you think?" Absolute legend but came up short when in charge.....perhaps.".distance lends enchancement" and all that. Great that our result is the first he looks for. Top man.

Did a job when first came in as manager and turned round a similarly lacking in confidence OUFC squad as now in a short time..... in the longer term he was forced to sell players to balance the books and was soon very disillusioned by the chairman's aspirations for oùfc vastly differing from his......yes it didn't end Well,shotts tenure as manager, but, how much of that situation was down to the then owner? What happened behind the scenes at that time I guess we'll never know the details of

 

[Ox4Eva]

Shotts never cut it as a manager. Throwing his scarf into the beech road stand as a parting gift. Whenever questioned post match on an away defeat all we got was "Well, you were there, what do you think?" Absolute legend but came up short when in charge.....perhaps.".distance lends enchancement" and all that. Great that our result is the first he looks for. Top man.

We all know he came up short as a manger, I was more interested in his comments regarding the lies behind the scenes.

 

[MJB]

Shotts never cut it as a manager. Throwing his scarf into the beech road stand as a parting gift. Whenever questioned post match on an away defeat all we got was "Well, you were there, what do you think?" Absolute legend but came up short when in charge.....perhaps.".distance lends enchancement" and all that. Great that our result is the first he looks for. Top man.

Did a job when first came in as manager and turned round a similarly lacking in confidence OUFC squad as now in a short time..... in the longer term he was forced to sell players to balance the books and was soon very disillusioned by the chairman's aspirations for oùfc vastly differing from his......yes it didn't end Well,shotts tenure as manager, but, how much of that situation was down to the then owner? What happened behind the scenes at that time I guess we'll never know the details of

He did indeed save our bacon when he first took on the job. He even received a number of Sports Personality of the Year nominations I believe, as noted by the presenters if memory serves!

Still remember the goosebumps for his first game in charge, despite not having seen him as a player.

On his ultimate failure as a manger, I have no doubt that he was in a very difficult position with difficult circumstances. However, I also feel that his apparent Major General style of management is the kind that leads to short term benefits - and particularly when a team is struggling - but becomes increasingly unpopular and unsuccessful over a longer period of time.

Particularly given the personalities of modern footballers who don’t respond well to being constantly bellowed at.

That’s all conjecture however and he of course remains an Oxford legend - perhaps even the greatest of them all in many eyes.

Finally, am I right in thinking that a coded message for Shotton was left in his ghost written programme notes for what proved to be his last game? I seem to recall that someone in the back office was irked by his behaviour and decided to start each paragraph with a letter which spelt out a less than flattering phrase. Someone on here will know I’m sure!

 

[Marked Ox]

Remember chatting to him walking away from Watford after one of the two called off Cup game. Genuine and friendly chap who clearly cared about the club.

 

[Sarge]

He did indeed save our bacon when he first took on the job. He even received a number of Sports Personality of the Year nominations I believe, as noted by the presenters if memory serves!

Still remember the goosebumps for his first game in charge, despite not having seen him as a player.

On his ultimate failure as a manger, I have no doubt that he was in a very difficult position with difficult circumstances. However, I also feel that his apparent Major General style of management is the kind that leads to short term benefits - and particularly when a team is struggling - but becomes increasingly unpopular and unsuccessful over a longer period of time.

Particularly given the personalities of modern footballers who don’t respond well to being constantly bellowed at.

That’s all conjecture however and he of course remains an Oxford legend - perhaps even the greatest of them all in many eyes.

Finally, am I right in thinking that a coded message for Shotton was left in his ghost written programme notes for what proved to be his last game? I seem to recall that someone in the back office was irked by his behaviour and decided to start each paragraph with a letter which spelt out a less than flattering phrase. Someone on here will know I’m sure!

Heard similar 're those programme notes.....with snowflakes everywhere including professional football at all levels poor little lambs would be unsettled n offended if shouted at..... conversely didn't shotts cb partner Rambo warm up for games by headbutting goal posts till he needed stitches? It seemed like he did & just to get ready for the match kick off too

 

[MJB]

He did indeed save our bacon when he first took on the job. He even received a number of Sports Personality of the Year nominations I believe, as noted by the presenters if memory serves!

Still remember the goosebumps for his first game in charge, despite not having seen him as a player.

On his ultimate failure as a manger, I have no doubt that he was in a very difficult position with difficult circumstances. However, I also feel that his apparent Major General style of management is the kind that leads to short term benefits - and particularly when a team is struggling - but becomes increasingly unpopular and unsuccessful over a longer period of time.

Particularly given the personalities of modern footballers who don’t respond well to being constantly bellowed at.

That’s all conjecture however and he of course remains an Oxford legend - perhaps even the greatest of them all in many eyes.

Finally, am I right in thinking that a coded message for Shotton was left in his ghost written programme notes for what proved to be his last game? I seem to recall that someone in the back office was irked by his behaviour and decided to start each paragraph with a letter which spelt out a less than flattering phrase. Someone on here will know I’m sure!

Heard similar 're those programme notes.....with snowflakes everywhere including professional football at all levels poor little lambs would be unsettled n offended if shouted at..... conversely didn't shotts cb partner Rambo warm up for games by headbutting goal posts till he needed stitches? It seemed like he did & just to get ready for the match kick off too

A bit before my time but I’m sure you’re right. It certain fits with how Shotton has been characterised over the corresponding years.

Heard similar things about Big Ron being intimidating in the tunnel in his greased up state (as it were) before screaming as he ran down the tunnel.

Can’t quite imagine it from current players (which is probably for the best in all fairness, much as I loathe the behaviour of Premier League types).

 

[Oldham]

Everyone calling him “Shotts”, I’m sure his nickname was “Sheeny”??

 

[windmill]

I remember going to pay for a season ticket back in the nineteen nineties. Was it in the club or London Road Stand? I just cannot remember. Anyway, paid up and wandered round to see the state of the pitch. Fresh paint all round and emerald green turf glinting in the sunlight. Terrific!. Who should be standing on the Beech Road terracing...none other than Malcolm. Just about to go on holiday. We had a few words and walked round to the London Road terracing. The dreaded wire netting was in place. "God" he said, "I could never watch football in these conditions. How do you put up with it?" He had never spectated from the London Road Stand. I must have said something like "thats what we do". Similar to today, hoping for something better. We are all programmed in, here for the log haul. Otherwise why would we be on this Forum?. Roll on Saturday.

 

[Notaswindonfan]

Call him what you want, but don’t call him late for his dinner .

 

[Ox4Eva]

His comments does bring it home how our wee club has been used and abused by certain custodians over the years. Not including DE in this statement but has any club had so many unscrupulous and useless owners/chairman as we have had over the years?

 

[windmill]

Heard similar 're those programme notes.....with snowflakes everywhere including professional football at all levels poor little lambs would be unsettled n offended if shouted at..... conversely didn't shotts cb partner Rambo warm up for games by headbutting goal posts till he needed stitches? It seemed like he did & just to get ready for the match kick off too

Blimey, is that true?

 

[Peterdev]

With a bit more support I think he would have been regarded as a better manager than he is often given credit for.
At the time many supporters shared his passion and if hadn’t been forced to sell many players that relegation to division three might have been put on hold for a while longer.
He was very unlucky with a Kevin Francis who netted many goals in not many appearances. The result against Chelsea in the cup sat very badly with many supporters as we were cheated out of a good result with the resultant revenue.
Always liked Shotts and will always remember fondly his lifting the cup at Wembley in 1986

 

[windmill]

With a bit more support I think he would have been regarded as a better manager than he is often given credit for.
At the time many supporters shared his passion and if hadn’t been forced to sell many players that relegation to division three might have been put on hold for a while longer.
He was very unlucky with a Kevin Francis who netted many goals in not many appearances. The result against Chelsea in the cup sat very badly with many supporters as we were cheated out of a good result with the resultant revenue.
Always liked Shotts and will always remember fondly his lifting the cup at Wembley in 1986

With a bit more support I think he would have been regarded as a better manager than he is often given credit for.
At the time many supporters shared his passion and if hadn’t been forced to sell many players that relegation to division three might have been put on hold for a while longer.
He was very unlucky with a Kevin Francis who netted many goals in not many appearances. The result against Chelsea in the cup sat very badly with many supporters as we were cheated out of a good result with the resultant revenue.
Always liked Shotts and will always remember fondly his lifting the cup at Wembley in 1986

Kevin Francis used to like a pint across the road in the "Standard". A giant of a man.

 

[yellowbow]

Very accurately and astutely identified a lot of what's wrong in how OUFC set up and played last night .....would make an excellent defensive coach IMO

His revelation about him n Rambo starting their intimidation of the opposition when lining up pre match in the tunnel made me laugh..... and realise just how powder puff like our current batch of cbs are in comparison too.....different times Now, but Briggs n shotts had an aura of menace and an attitude that screamed they shall not pass. Those were the days!

Reminds me of the old 70’s era defenders mantra:

‘The ball may pass by, the player may pass by. But never the two together..’

Incidentally has anyone read ‘The greatest player you never saw - The Robin Friday Story’? There’s a great bit in there about a game against Oxford and the Oxford defenders had reputations for being real brutes. Can’t remember who they were but he said he got a real kicking. It was before Shotton and Briggs arrived.

 

[windmill]

Reminds me of the old 70’s era defenders mantra:

‘The ball may pass by, the player may pass by. But never the two together..’

Incidentally has anyone read ‘The greatest player you never saw - The Robin Friday Story’? There’s a great bit in there about a game against Oxford and the Oxford defenders had reputations for being real brutes. Can’t remember who they were but he said he got a real kicking. It was before Shotton and Briggs arrived.

Robin Gladwin played for us in the sixties. Could it be him!

 

[Sarge]

Reminds me of the old 70’s era defenders mantra:

‘The ball may pass by, the player may pass by. But never the two together..’

Incidentally has anyone read ‘The greatest player you never saw - The Robin Friday Story’? There’s a great bit in there about a game against Oxford and the Oxford defenders had reputations for being real brutes. Can’t remember who they were but he said he got a real kicking. It was before Shotton and Briggs arrived.

Book co written by an aquintance of mine Paolo Hewitt who tentatively looked albeit some years ago now into doing a book on Gary Briggs, working title was'.... the hardest man in English football'....robin Friday ex Cardiff & r**d*ng was immortalised in the super furry animals song the man don't give a f**k....which was about right given the story about him getting sent off intentionally and taking a dump in the opposition's communal bath!

Yep, that mantra seemed to be the absolute norm in the 70s

60s,70s and 80s OUFC had some proper no nonsense defenders to say the least

Up front too we had some seriously 'competitive ' strikers too....last of the hard as nails players to play for us Billy Whitehurst who also made £ on the side of playing football as a bare knuckle fighter

 

[Sarge]

Blimey, is that true?

Not entirely .....hence me saying it seemed that's what he did to warm up

 

[Sarge]

Reminds me of the old 70’s era defenders mantra:

‘The ball may pass by, the player may pass by. But never the two together..’

Incidentally has anyone read ‘The greatest player you never saw - The Robin Friday Story’? There’s a great bit in there about a game against Oxford and the Oxford defenders had reputations for being real brutes. Can’t remember who they were but he said he got a real kicking. It was before Shotton and Briggs arrived.

Dave Roberts perhaps or even Big Ron aka Tank ? @Maurice Earp may be able to help? (pre Briggs n shotton)

 

[MJB]

Reminds me of the old 70’s era defenders mantra:

‘The ball may pass by, the player may pass by. But never the two together..’

Incidentally has anyone read ‘The greatest player you never saw - The Robin Friday Story’? There’s a great bit in there about a game against Oxford and the Oxford defenders had reputations for being real brutes. Can’t remember who they were but he said he got a real kicking. It was before Shotton and Briggs arrived.

Book co written by an aquintance of mine Paolo Hewitt who tentatively looked albeit some years ago now into doing a book on Gary Briggs, working title was'.... the hardest man in English football'....robin Friday ex Cardiff & r**d*ng was immortalised in the super furry animals song the man don't give a f**k....which was about right given the story about him getting sent off intentionally and taking a dump in the opposition's communal bath!

Yep, that mantra seemed to be the absolute norm in the 70s

60s,70s and 80s OUFC had some proper no nonsense defenders to say the least

Up front too we had some seriously 'competitive ' strikers too....last of the hard as nails players to play for us Billy Whitehurst who also made £ on the side of playing football as a bare knuckle fighter

Had no idea you had an association with Paolo Hewitt.

He runs in similar circles to a number of ex-colleagues of mine, back when writing about music was putting food on the table (or not as was sometimes the case!)

Particularly like his album-by-album book on Bowie.

 

[Oldham]

Dave Roberts perhaps (pre Briggs n shotton)

Dave Roberts, now that boy could play. Took no prisoners either ?

 

[Sarge]

Had no idea you had an association with Paolo Hewitt.

He runs in similar circles to a number of ex-colleagues of mine, back when writing about music was putting food on the table (or not as was sometimes the case!)

Particularly like his album-by-album book on Bowie.

Move in similar circles as Paolo for me day job.....hes prolific as a book writer, often out n about same places I am, hes also a rabid spuds fan too