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Looking at the league table this morning looks for far more comfortable reading.
Already Northampton and MK Dons will finish below us and Bury are already relegated.
Games to come on Tuesday Oldham V Southend...And Rochdale v Plymouth
If Rochdale should lose and Plymouth have everything to play for that will leave them only able to catch us on points but with at least a four goal difference to make up in two games.
Next home game up for us against Rochdale, we could well send them down regardless of the result, but seems like a draw will be more than enough.
Looks like we should be guaranteed survival any time soon.
The work for next season begins soon.
There will be players leaving to be sure, and I think also there will be changes in the management structure as Karl Robinson prepares us for the demands of next season.
Will be difficult with the likes of Sunderland, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford and Portsmouth all looking to get back where they feel belong.
A big welcome to Accrington, renewed rivalries with Luton, and a small feeling of regret at not seeing that seeing that small club from down the A420
 
Peterdev said:
Looking at the league table this morning looks for far more comfortable reading.
Already Northampton and MK Dons will finish below us and Bury are already relegated.
Games to come on Tuesday Oldham V Southend...And Rochdale v Plymouth
If Rochdale should lose and Plymouth have everything to play for that will leave them only able to catch us on points but with at least a four goal difference to make up in two games.
Next home game up for us against Rochdale, we could well send them down regardless of the result, but seems like a draw will be more than enough.
Looks like we should be guaranteed survival any time soon.
The work for next season begins soon.
There will be players leaving to be sure, and I think also there will be changes in the management structure as Karl Robinson prepares us for the demands of next season.
Will be difficult with the likes of Sunderland, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Bradford and Portsmouth all looking to get back where they feel belong.
A big welcome to Accrington, renewed rivalries with Luton, and a small feeling of regret at not seeing that seeing that small club from down the A420
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Looks like it will be especially hard next season, we have to play Portsmouth four times! ;)
 
I think Rochdale will go, people have been on about them being in a false position, that they were in good form and the cup distracted them, but they are still in the relegation positions and there next two games are Plymouth home and us away, I think they will lose both so will be praying to still be in with a chance on the last day. They are a poor team, that FA cup draw at home to spurs made them seem better than they are, you don’t spend most of the season in the bottom four if you are decent, they have.
 
Not sure whether the pressure could be off us tomorrow night as I think whatever happens we will still be in the mix on Saturday.
I have a feeling eithe Gillingham or Walsall will end up as the last ones to go with Dons, Cobblers and the Shakers
 
Peterdev said:
Not sure whether the pressure could be off us tomorrow night as I think whatever happens we will still be in the mix on Saturday.
I have a feeling eithe Gillingham or Walsall will end up as the last ones to go with Dons, Cobblers and the Shakers
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Ah Don Cobbler and the Shakers.. I remember them. One hit wonder scouse band from the sixties
 
Northampton having a late resurgence helps us. They have Oldham and Walsall to play, can't catch us, but have a slither of a chance of staying up. They could cause trouble for the abovementioned.
 
I’ve often found in the past a team that has just been relegated has a resurgence as the pressure is off.
I can’t see how Oxford can be relegated now unless we lose both games and the clubs below us all enjoy great results.
We could easily play Rochdale needing to lose 0-5 to go down. If that should happen, we will probably score in the last minute to stay up as we like to see our supporters on a cliff edge
 
Also if Plymouth has any chance of reaching the playoffs they really need to beat Rochdale on Tuesday.
Which would massively take the pressure off, we would only need 1 point to be mathematically safe, or as said above lose to dale 5-0 to go down, if we end up on the same points as them.
 
Botox said:
Also if Plymouth has any chance of reaching the playoffs they really need to beat Rochdale on Tuesday.
Which would massively take the pressure off, we would only need 1 point to be mathematically safe, or as said above lose to dale 5-0 to go down, if we end up on the same points as them.
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Rochdale only need to beat us 2-0 to improve their goal difference over us, don’t they?
 
You could be right, cant get my head around it.

They are on -8 we are on -5 if they lose on Tuesday I'm assuming they will be -9 or more and for them gain a better goal average over us they would need to score a good few goals to put us down ?
 
Botox said:
You could be right, cant get my head around it.

They are on -8 we are on -5 if they lose on Tuesday I'm assuming they will be -9 or more and for them gain a better goal average over us they would need to score a good few goals to put us down ?
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It is because we are playing them. So every goal they score against us is -1 for our GD and +1 for them. So effectively every goal is worth double to GD.
 
Botox said:
Also if Plymouth has any chance of reaching the playoffs they really need to beat Rochdale on Tuesday.
Which would massively take the pressure off, we would only need 1 point to be mathematically safe, or as said above lose to dale 5-0 to go down, if we end up on the same points as them.
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Plymouth were poor at Northampton - very poor from many accounts I have read.

Argyle fans saying that Ryan Taylor was missed up front.

 
WestOxon U’s said:
Botox said:
Also if Plymouth has any chance of reaching the playoffs they really need to beat Rochdale on Tuesday.
Which would massively take the pressure off, we would only need 1 point to be mathematically safe, or as said above lose to dale 5-0 to go down, if we end up on the same points as them.
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Plymouth were poor at Northampton - very poor from many accounts I have read.

Argyle fans saying that Ryan Taylor was missed up front.

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Such a shame Taylor can’t remain fit for longer periods. A very useful player.
 
For us to go down from here, all of the following would have to happen:

a) We'd have to lose both games
b) Gillingham would have to take at least two points from their last two (they haven't won since March 10th, and have scored 1 goal in 6 April games)
c) Wimbledon would have to take four points from their last three (one of which is away to Wigan)
d) Walsall would need to win two of their last three (they've only won one of their last eight, and that was home against Bury)
e) Oldham would need to win two of their last three (they've only won one of their last nine)
f) Rochdale would need to win two of their last three (though obviously one would be the game against us)

Basically we'd need for five teams that have been bad all season to suddenly all turn it around at the same time.

So whilst we're not mathematically safe yet, it's probably a 1 in a thousand shot from here (even most of the bookies have us at 66-1 for relegation now)
 
tonyw said:
For us to go down from here, all of the following would have to happen:

a) We'd have to lose both games
b) Gillingham would have to take at least two points from their last two (they haven't won since March 10th, and have scored 1 goal in 6 April games)
c) Wimbledon would have to take four points from their last three (one of which is away to Wigan)
d) Walsall would need to win two of their last three (they've only won one of their last eight, and that was home against Bury)
e) Oldham would need to win two of their last three (they've only won one of their last nine)
f) Rochdale would need to win two of their last three (though obviously one would be the game against us)

Basically we'd need for five teams that have been bad all season to suddenly all turn it around at the same time.

So whilst we're not mathematically safe yet, it's probably a 1 in a thousand shot from here (even most of the bookies have us at 66-1 for relegation now)
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some bookies have us at over 80-1 for relegation currently :eek:
 
tonyw said:
For us to go down from here, all of the following would have to happen:

a) We'd have to lose both games
b) Gillingham would have to take at least two points from their last two (they haven't won since March 10th, and have scored 1 goal in 6 April games)
c) Wimbledon would have to take four points from their last three (one of which is away to Wigan)
d) Walsall would need to win two of their last three (they've only won one of their last eight, and that was home against Bury)
e) Oldham would need to win two of their last three (they've only won one of their last nine)
f) Rochdale would need to win two of their last three (though obviously one would be the game against us)

Basically we'd need for five teams that have been bad all season to suddenly all turn it around at the same time.

So whilst we're not mathematically safe yet, it's probably a 1 in a thousand shot from here (even most of the bookies have us at 66-1 for relegation now)
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Thanks for posting this Tony, nice and clear.

Still ain’t counting my chickens though!;)
 
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We won’t lose to Rochdale Saturday, apart from the Pompey game where Robinson who is definitely the man had barely had time to talk to the players, the improvement has been huge in all those unfashionable but important things like organisation, tactics, shape, commitment etc, considering these were the only things Robinson could really effect in such a short time I think he has earned the right to my trust that we won’t lose to a poor Rochdale.
 
holdsteady said:
We won’t lose to Rochdale Saturday, apart from the Pompey game where Robinson who is definitely the man had barely had time to talk to the players, the improvement has been huge in all those unfashionable but important things like organisation, tactics, shape, commitment etc, considering these were the only things Robinson could really effect in such a short time I think he has earned the right to my trust that we won’t lose to a poor Rochdale.
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Even in the Pompey game we were playing well until THAT penalty.
 
I am glad everyone is so optimistic if we need a result on Saturday. I can remember the very first league match at the stadium where we all trotted along full of optimism & we ended up getting beaten - the team that day - Rochdale!
 
VICTOR1986 said:
I am glad everyone is so optimistic if we need a result on Saturday. I can remember the very first league match at the stadium where we all trotted along full of optimism & we ended up getting beaten - the team that day - Rochdale!
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Well remembered @VICTOR1986 .... tbh, I'd forgotten, well, I'd put that one completely into the darker part of the memory banks.... 'twas the first of a multitude of disappointments I've witnessed at the breeze block
 
The biggest danger is if our players think the job is done after the win at Doncaster. Hopefully KR will have them just as focused for a result on Saturday against Rochdale, who will still be without Henderson who is serving a four game ban.
 
I just hope that we don’t have to go to Blackburn hoping others lose around us. That said we will probably get a result up there
 
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