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Marked Ox

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In that case, refs should be told enforce the rule and do it!
Another one: when does 'shepherding the ball out' for a goal kick become 'blatant obstruction'? Quite often, I'd suggest!
I believe when shepherding the ball out, you have to be within touching distance of the ball so it appears footballers have unusually long legs for human beings in a lot of cases!
 

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What I don't understand (apart from the long legs thing :) ) is that if you stood in someone's way like that in any other area of the pitch, then it's a foul. Is there a special rule that kicks in a few yards from the lines?
Another one: sin bins / orange cards? I find it frustrating that players are given the same punishment for two 'silly' yellow cards (e.g. taking their shirt off, 'over-celebrating' and now having the ball kicked at their hands from three feet away!) as they do for two 'professional' fouls or a violent and potentially leg breaking tackle. There must surely be some way of differentiating...
 

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Sin bins being trialled at Step 6 of non-league this season.

What is interesting is how you deal with the keeper being sinbinned and then returning to the field on completion of the time.
 

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Sin bins being trialled at Step 6 of non-league this season.

What is interesting is how you deal with the keeper being sinbinned and then returning to the field on completion of the time.
Easy.......... a variation on rush goalies..... outfield player gets the shirt but can join in play if they think they can get back 😁
 

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Yes, shielding the ball out for goal kicks, corners and throw ins is my pet hate. Its ridiculous at times when a big lump of a defender/striker can just stop a player from getting to the ball from anything up to 10 yards out just because he's stronger. If the player trying to get to the ball even gives him a nudge it's a free kick. Absolutely ridiculous, the game is called football and players should be penalised if they don't attempt to play the ball. The obstruction rule should be tightened up.
The offside rule needs looking at again. Much too arbitary as it stands.
 

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If a team feels that it has been wronged by an opposition player diving or feigning injury, which results in a goal, a penalty or a red or yellow card being shown, then the club should be able to cite that player after the game for deception, requiring the FA disciplinary panel to review the incident. If the case is proven, a six game ban should be mandatory.

If the referee stops the game for an injury, the player so injured must be attended by the trainer and leave the field for assessment prior to the restart.
That's actually the wording of the law now. The player should be assessed on the pitch then removed if treatment is required.
"An injured player may not be treated on the field of play and may only re-enter after play has restarted"
 

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Agree with the consensus about "shepherding the ball out" (or 'obstruction' as it should simply be called).
If this was addressed it would play a small but significant part in reducing the length of time the ball is out of play, and increase attacking opportunities.
 

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stop fans entering grounds who are there to enjoy a game, any fan/s celebrating before VAR decides if it's a goal to be immediately escorted from the ground.
 

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I'd like to see the self take rule from hockey introduced, basically if you are fouled you can immediately restart play yourself by dribbling off and anyone near is not allowed to attempt a tackle until you have travelled 10 yards.

The game keeps moving and players have to decide if they want to shout and contest each decision with the ref whilst their oppo are playing on or get back into the game.
 

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That's actually the wording of the law now. The player should be assessed on the pitch then removed if treatment is required.
"An injured player may not be treated on the field of play and may only re-enter after play has restarted"
That's all well and good if the ref actually calls the trainer on to the field. How many times do we see the ref blow up and jog thirty yards back to a prostrate player who has been down for half a minute, only for him to jump up and say "I'm ok".

Perhaps we should borrow from rugby and allow the trainer on while play continues. If you know play isn't stopping, you'll be less inclined to stay down for a breather.

Like the hockey free kick idea.
 

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In that case, refs should be told enforce the rule and do it!
Another one: when does 'shepherding the ball out' for a goal kick become 'blatant obstruction'? Quite often, I'd suggest!
Totally agree. That should always be a free kick for obstruction.
I dont understand how a player deliberately not playing the ball and simply trying to stop the opponent get to the ball is allowed.
 

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Maybe a little controversial but I would change the offside rule to benefit the striker.
So rather than being disallowed for some bodies fingernail being offside I would have it as onside unless there is a clear gap between the attacking player and the defensive player.
 

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And I interpretation. If rules.
Did anybody hear Callum Wilson's comments on Englands disallowed goal?
He will have to change his game from pushing and pulling defenders with VAR as it picks those things up!
Change your game then!
 

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To reduce time wasting, goal kicks should be taken from the side the ball went out. If the player taking the kick wastes time, a corner is awarded to the attacking team.
 

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Perhaps we should borrow from rugby and allow the trainer on while play continues. If you know play isn't stopping, you'll be less inclined to stay down for a breather.
Defender down being treated, edge of his own area. Is he playing attackers onside whilst being treated? If not, physio does his job, defender gets up, still on the edge of his own area, and gets ready to rejoin play, when long ball over the top puts striker through on other side of pitch, now onside because treatment has finished and clean through... No, Rugby is a much slower game and can have treatment whist the ball is in play, not workable in the much quicker football.
 

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Maybe a little controversial but I would change the offside rule to benefit the striker.
So rather than being disallowed for some bodies fingernail being offside I would have it as onside unless there is a clear gap between the attacking player and the defensive player.
How do you define it though? How much benefit do you give? Impossible to enforce I would say...
 

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Maybe a little controversial but I would change the offside rule to benefit the striker.
So rather than being disallowed for some bodies fingernail being offside I would have it as onside unless there is a clear gap between the attacking player and the defensive player.
I think it would just move the decision point, you would still have the same arguments.
 

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How do you define it though? How much benefit do you give? Impossible to enforce I would say...
I agree. I certainly never gave anybody benefit, they were either past the last defender too early or not. Running the line isn't like a TV watching multiple replays, it is a split second one off decision and judging which part of the body etc just isn't practical for a Lino.
 

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I think it would just move the decision point, you would still have the same arguments.
True. You have to draw a line somewhere and there will be close calls wherever you draw it. I didn't have a problem with Lingard's goal last week and Aguero's Champs League goal being ruled out as they were definitely offside, however close it was. I suppose, in the long run, I'd prefer to see the correct decision being made than the incorrect one standing. The problem with VAR, for me, is that it's being used for judgment calls that are better left to the onfield ref.
 
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