Rule Changes

[nick68]

Apologies if this is in the wrong section but wasn't sure where to put it.

I'd be interested to know what rules people would bring in, amend or get rid of if given the chance, personally I'm thinking more about the things that gripe me during a game but could easily be fixed.

1. Throw ins and Free kicks not taken from the right place, easy to fix just need the officials to do their job

2. Players appealling for a foul, corner, throw in or goal kick when clearly they are just trying it on, it's basically trying to con the referee so treat it the same as diving.

3. Goalkeepers falling to the floor every time they catch the ball, when did this creep in. No need for it .

4. Players celebrating in front of opposing fans, again absolutely no need for it. You get booked for taking your shirt off so why not the same for this, I think it's actually in the rules as provacative celebrating but no ref punishes it.

5. Shielding the ball out, if done correctly and legally I have no issue but you get players who change direction to block an opponent which is obstruction anywhere else on the pitch.

That's enough for now but interested to hear what people think of these and what their own changes would be.

 

[Andy Stroud]

1. Book the first player who wastes time - even if it’s the goalkeeper
2. Allow players to celebrate a goal (includes removing shirt) but not in front of opposition fans

I agree with your point 3 too, it’s an obvious way of wasting time - see my first point.

 

[m]

I'd like to see something done about feigning injury.

If the game is forced to stop then the player in question should miss x minutes while he is properly assessed.

 

[frenchconnection]

Introduce a sin bin ... for time wasting etc ... 10 minutes

 

[Oldman159]

I like the sin bin idea. Could be for overacting, diving, time wasting and feigning injury.

Also for surrounding officials and or abusing them? All it would need is 3 players from one team to be sin binned at the same time - just once - and I betcha it would stop!!

I would really like to see referees explaining or justifying their contentious decisions after matches. All we get now is a sort of code of silence where the LRA close ranks. 'Ref watch' is an excellent medium for monitoring ref performance, but it is normally only concerned with the elite group and the prem money games. But I think there is as much chance of that happening as there is of B*e*it......

 

[Deleted member 222]

Introduce a sin bin ... for time wasting etc ... 10 minutes

They have introduced sin bins in some grass root leagues. You get sin binned for 10 minutes for dissent. I still don’t think it’s improved the respect refs get or the lack of.

 

[Sarge]

I like the sin bin idea. Could be for overacting, diving, time wasting and feigning injury.

Also for surrounding officials and or abusing them? All it would need is 3 players from one team to be sin binned at the same time - just once - and I betcha it would stop!!

I would really like to see referees explaining or justifying their contentious decisions after matches. All we get now is a sort of code of silence where the LRA close ranks. 'Ref watch' is an excellent medium for monitoring ref performance, but it is normally only concerned with the elite group and the prem money games. But I think there is as much chance of that happening as there is of B*e*it......

perhaps a permanent (season long ?) thread ...or even a ref watch section on YF for the officials who take charge of OUFC games?

 

[Marked Ox]

I'd like to see something done about feigning injury.

If the game is forced to stop then the player in question should miss x minutes while he is properly assessed.

This. Also a player shown to feign injury automatically gets a caution (whether in the game or after the game).

 

[Common Villager]

Players getting booked for celebrating with fans is a big gripe for me. I wish they'd change that rule.

Players should leave the pitch at the closest point when they're being substituted.

I like the idea of a sin bin for time wasting, as long as refs enforces it consistently and properly.

IMO handball should be when a player purposely moves their hand towards the ball, or if it is in a completely unnatural position, e.g. well above their head when attempting to block a shot.

Linesmen should flag as soon as an offside player makes an attempt to play the ball. Why do they leave it until they actually get to it before flagging these days?

 

[makv]

I like the sin bin idea. Could be for overacting, diving, time wasting and feigning injury.

Also for surrounding officials and or abusing them? All it would need is 3 players from one team to be sin binned at the same time - just once - and I betcha it would stop!!

I would really like to see referees explaining or justifying their contentious decisions after matches. All we get now is a sort of code of silence where the LRA close ranks. 'Ref watch' is an excellent medium for monitoring ref performance, but it is normally only concerned with the elite group and the prem money games. But I think there is as much chance of that happening as there is of B*e*it......

Some interesting comments during the women’s WC game between France and Korea the other day - along the lines of how you don’t see diving, feigning injuries or surrounding the ref in the women’s game. If only.

 

[Yellow2K22]

Players getting booked for celebrating with fans is a big gripe for me. I wish they'd change that rule.

Players should leave the pitch at the closest point when they're being substituted.

I like the idea of a sin bin for time wasting, as long as refs enforces it consistently and properly.

IMO handball should be when a player purposely moves their hand towards the ball, or if it is in a completely unnatural position, e.g. well above their head when attempting to block a shot.

Linesmen should flag as soon as an offside player makes an attempt to play the ball. Why do they leave it until they actually get to it before flagging these days?

I believe walking off at nearest point when being substituted is an agreed change for this season? As well as the other below rule changes? Or is this just for premier league?

9 new rule changes are coming to the Premier League – but are they good or bad?

Drop balls drop dead, goalkeepers must stand completely still, and handball controversies are finally over (possibly)

www.fourfourtwo.com

 

[Marked Ox]

I believe walking off at nearest point when being substituted is an agreed change for this season? As well as the other below rule changes? Or is this just for premier league?

9 new rule changes are coming to the Premier League – but are they good or bad?

Drop balls drop dead, goalkeepers must stand completely still, and handball controversies are finally over (possibly)

www.fourfourtwo.com

No the rule changes are for all levels. Obviously not VAR though thankfully.

 

[nick68]

I believe walking off at nearest point when being substituted is an agreed change for this season? As well as the other below rule changes? Or is this just for premier league?

9 new rule changes are coming to the Premier League – but are they good or bad?

Drop balls drop dead, goalkeepers must stand completely still, and handball controversies are finally over (possibly)

www.fourfourtwo.com

I believe you're correct, from this season substitutes can leave the field of play at the nearest point unless otherwise directed by the ref

 

[nick68]

They have introduced sin bins in some grass root leagues. You get sin binned for 10 minutes for dissent. I still don’t think it’s improved the respect refs get or the lack of.

Yes sin bins for dissent will come in this season for step 7 and below. The idea is to penalise the whole team by being a man shirt and therefore ensuring team mates self police to ensure they keep their mouthy players in check

 

[Yellow2K22]

Interesting change for goal kicks. You can pass to team mate in area now. Would have been useful to have had that rule in place for the Bradford shambles.

 

[Marked Ox]

Yes sin bins for dissent will come in this season for step 7 and below. The idea is to penalise the whole team by being a man shirt and therefore ensuring team mates self police to ensure they keep their mouthy players in check

The keepers getting sin binned and the rules for them coming back on will get interesting!

 

[Oxymoron]

If a team feels that it has been wronged by an opposition player diving or feigning injury, which results in a goal, a penalty or a red or yellow card being shown, then the club should be able to cite that player after the game for deception, requiring the FA disciplinary panel to review the incident. If the case is proven, a six game ban should be mandatory.

If the referee stops the game for an injury, the player so injured must be attended by the trainer and leave the field for assessment prior to the restart.

 

[Sarge]

If a team feels that it has been wronged by an opposition player diving or feigning injury, which results in a goal, a penalty or a red or yellow card being shown, then the club should be able to cite that player after the game for deception, requiring the FA disciplinary panel to review the incident. If the case is proven, a six game ban should be mandatory.

If the referee stops the game for an injury, the player so injured must be attended by the trainer and leave the field for assessment prior to the restart.

Harsh .... but may stop some of that 'gamesmanship' employed by some

 

[horseman]

The leaving the pitch at the nearest point is nonsense, what you'll see now is instead of wandering the farthest point away they'll stand in the centre circle.
will be interesting as an opponent has to walk around the pitch passing opposing fans, just hope the silly sods didn't celebrate a goal in front of them

much of the initial post is subjective stuff a player could genuinely believe (and can be right) that the ball last struck an opponent

if you're worrying now about a little time wasting just wait until VAR has you waiting several minutes for a decision.

 

[Sarge]

The leaving the pitch at the nearest point is nonsense, what you'll see now is instead of wandering the farthest point away they'll stand in the centre circle.
will be interesting as an opponent has to walk around the pitch passing opposing fans, just hope the silly sods didn't celebrate a goal in front of them

much of the initial post is subjective stuff a player could genuinely believe (and can be right) that the ball last struck an opponent

if you're worrying now about a little time wasting just wait until VAR has you waiting several minutes for a decision.

as demonstrated in the Womens World cup opener... close on 5 mins wait to decide French 'goal' was offside (by the tip of a toenail!!!)

 

[nick68]

Yep VAR will destroy the game in my opinion

 

[Gary Baldi]

No 2nd warnings for time wasting - if a player wastes time and is warned, the next time they do it, they are booked. If they are sent off, so be it
Remove the interpretations around when players are clean through, taken out to stop a chance and the attacking team missing the chance, so the player is booked as we had in a game at the end of the season. A yellow card does not suffice as punishment.
Make it easier to send off players for cynical challenges when a player isn't clean through
Stepping in front/impeding a goal keeper at a free kick or corner is punished by a free kick to the defending team

 

[Sarge]

No 2nd warnings for time wasting - if a player wastes time and is warned, the next time they do it, they are booked. If they are sent off, so be it
Remove the interpretations around when players are clean through, taken out to stop a chance and the attacking team missing the chance, so the player is booked as we had in a game at the end of the season. A yellow card does not suffice as punishment.
Make it easier to send off players for cynical challenges when a player isn't clean through
Stepping in front/impeding a goal keeper at a free kick or corner is punished by a free kick to the defending team

only problem with the above is how the likes of Kettle and similar interpret and apply rules like those ?

there should be some sort of standardised approach followed by all match officials bringing with it (hopefully) some much-needed consistency

 

[Gary Baldi]

only problem with the above is how the likes of Kettle and similar interpret and apply rules like those ?

there should be some sort of standardised approach followed by all match officials bringing with it (hopefully) some much-needed consistency

You write the rules in a simple manner and spend time training the officials so that the grey areas don't creep in. Even shockingly, have sessions for lower league refs every month to review decisions and reiterate rules so by the end of the season, there is no make it up stuff going on.

 

[Sarge]

You write the rules in a simple manner and spend time training the officials so that the grey areas don't creep in. Even shockingly, have sessions for lower league refs every month to review decisions and reiterate rules so by the end of the season, there is no make it up stuff going on.

we all live in hope

 

[Gary Baldi]

we all live in hope

With Mike Riley in charge, not going to happen!

 

[Sarge]

With Mike Riley in charge, not going to happen!

thats is a certainty .... sadly

 

[Oslernorth]

Get rid of injury time, and instead stop the watch during stoppages. It would solve all the time wasting nonsense and cut out the occasional bizarre decisions of adding X number of minutes to a match that clearly didn't warrant it

 

[Whingit]

I don't mind different refs interpreting the rules differently, just as long as the individual refs are consistent with themselves. People aren't really allowed to put themselves in any sort of danger anymore, so maybe a free substitution if somebody gets a head injury would be a good idea.

 

[Essexyellows]

1. Any player, other than the captain, gets "in the ref`s face" then straight red.
2. Any player that rolls around like they have been shot but then stages a miraculous recovery, straight red.
3. Any opposition player that "cups their ear" to the home fans or otherwise taunts them, straight red.
4. Any player wearing multicoloured boots, straight red. Black being the only colour acceptable.
5. Sin bin of 15 minutes for minor infringements, when half the team has gone that`ll make them behave.
6. No yellow cards (see 5)
7. Referee assessment app available to all attendees, any score of less than 80% they get demoted a league for a month.
8. Independent time keeper that stops the clock when the ball isn`t in play.

That`ll do...