General Rob Dickie transfer

[Shosho]

Meaningless contradiction

Has the attributes to be very good but as yet has weaknesses? What’s wrong with that assessment?

 

[LeftSideBoy]

What else would you expect if taking a player out of non league? With today’s accounts you won’t sign a ready made star - we have to create them. The perfectly sensible thing to do

Couldn't agree more, mate! And as recent seasons show, we are very good at developing young players and believe that we will continue to do so! Dickie, Moore, Baptiste, Sykes, Whyte, Brannagan and hopefully Agyei will join that group of players, eventually.

 

[SSU1965]

Wilder will be interested, I imagine.

has Dickie been 'punted' at him?

 

[OxfordBoy]

Confidently claiming both Moore and Atkinson will be better than Dickie should be a Bannable offence

 

[LeftSideBoy]

Confidently claiming both Moore and Atkinson will be better than Dickie should be a Bannable offence

Ban me then. I'll come back when Moore and Atkinson are our centre back pairing and you're throffing over them.

Elliott Moore has already shown that he has the potential to be better than Dickie as I believe he possesses the traits that Dickie lacks. Atkinson isn't such a certainty but there is definitely a lot of hype surrounding him.

 

[Robie]

Elliott

 

[LeftSideBoy]

Elliott

Did you honestly post this because I missed the 2nd T in his name? Blimey...

 

[RyanioBirdio]

Ban me then. I'll come back when Moore and Atkinson are our centre back pairing and you're throffing over them.

Elliot Moore has already shown that he has the potential to be better than Dickie as I believe he possesses the traits that Dickie lacks. Atkinson isn't such a certainty but there is definitely a lot of hype surrounding him.

I have to say, Moore is quietly improving at a pretty rapid pace. He has a very decent touch and technique despite his size and frame, brings the ball out well, and actually gets on the end of quite a few set pieces. He seems to do everything Dickie does but with a touch more composure.

It will be very interesting to see where they each are in 5 years time.

 

[Robie]

Did you honestly post this because I missed the 2nd T in his name? Blimey...

Yes.

 

[LeftSideBoy]

I have to say, Moore is quietly improving at a pretty rapid pace. He has a very decent touch and technique despite his size and frame, brings the ball out well, and actually gets on the end of quite a few set pieces. He seems to do everything Dickie does but with a touch more composure.

It will be very interesting to see where they each are in 5 years time.

My thoughts exactly! More composure, quicker off the mark and much more of an aireal threat. I think if Dickie moves on, Moore will really come into his own. In a weird way, I'm really excited at the prospect of having Moore and Atkinson at the back. Of course I'd like Dickie to stay but we know that beyond the summer, thats not going to happen...

 

[tonyw]

The way the Premier League is right now - if there is genuine interest from multiple Premiership teams (Southampton, Burnley, Leeds unless they blow it again), then Rob Dickie won't just break our transfer record.....he could double it.

Money we need, if the recent accounts are to be believed.......

 

[werthersoriginal]

The way the Premier League is right now - if there is genuine interest from multiple Premiership teams (Southampton, Burnley, Leeds unless they blow it again), then Rob Dickie won't just break our transfer record.....he could double it.

Money we need, if the recent accounts are to be believed.......

Yes that’s what they said about Baptiste. Derby for a million then

 

[LeftSideBoy]

Yes that’s what they said about Baptiste. Derby for a million then

Baptiste was never going to be THAT player. Dickie is more valuable than Baptiste, in my opinion.

 

[Sarge]

The way the Premier League is right now - if there is genuine interest from multiple Premiership teams (Southampton, Burnley, Leeds unless they blow it again), then Rob Dickie won't just break our transfer record.....he could double it.

Money we need, if the recent accounts are to be believed.......

Lets hope Zaki & the rest of the board learnt a lot in Jan window, about timing of when they cash in on players.... and also, if the accounts say more(and differently) to what various board members have been spounting since Jan, when they decide to cash in, from now on the board with negotiate hard and get a genuinely 'silly money' (as KR says) amount for OUR assets

I dont think £5-6 m plus add ons is an unrealistic fee for Dickie, could, possibly, get a bigger fee than that too

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

People anointing Dickie as a premier league and England player already are jumping the gun somewhat methinks. Even if he does sign for a PL club it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’ll start - Ledson isn’t really a Championship player at the moment in that he never gets a game. Dickie is clearly a quality player but if we had say Mason Holgate playing for us I’m sure we’d all be going absolutely mental about him as well

 

[Oxymoron]

I dont think £5-6 m plus add ons is an unrealistic fee for Dickie, could, possibly, get a bigger fee than that too

Or, the suitors can just hold fire and pick him up for nothing a year down the line.

The most profitable bit of Rob Dickie business we could hope for this summer (or before) would be to get his signature on a new contract.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

I dont think £5-6 m plus add ons is an unrealistic fee for Dickie, could, possibly, get a bigger fee than that too

If someone waves £1m in cash at us while tapping their watch as his final year winds down, do you think we could afford to tell them to stick it?

 

[Sarge]

Or, the suitors can just hold fire and pick him up for nothing a year down the line.

The most profitable bit of Rob Dickie business we could hope for this summer (or before) would be to get his signature on a new contract.

If someone waves £1m in cash at us while tapping their watch as his final year winds down, do you think we could afford to tell them to stick it?

my view is for far far too long OUFC have been more or less giving players away for way, way under value... whoever negotiates contracts with players for OUFC, needs to be putting one-year extension option on every single contract, so OUFC stop getting arseraped financially

Other clubs in L1 (Peterborough for example) get realistic fees for players they develop then sell.... all the time OUFC operate the way they have been, the club, certainly without owing a stadium, will be racking up debt.... stop giving our players away cheaply I say

 

[Robie]

So let's just sign a bunch of players that have no ambition to move up the pyramid in their careers and are happy to be tied into an indefinite contract?

 

[tonyw]

If someone waves £1m in cash at us while tapping their watch as his final year winds down, do you think we could afford to tell them to stick it?

Buyers vs. Sellers market.

If noone's really interested in paying for Dickie over the summer, and there's only a Championship team in for him on a take-it-or-leave-it basis then yeah, that is likely the scenario we'll end up in.

We're speculating on what happens if multiple Premier League teams are in for Dickie. If the reports are true, and that is indeed the case, then we're in a prime position to get a big fee.

I don't know how many times I can come on here and say the same name, but I'll do it one more time - Matthew Clarke.
Central defender. 23 years old. One year left on his contract. Sold by Pompey to Brighton for 3.5m going up to 5m last summer.
That is the absolute minimum we should be accepting, at least through the first couple of months of the summer.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

I don't know how many times I can come on here and say the same name, but I'll do it one more time - Matthew Clarke.
Central defender. 23 years old. One year left on his contract. Sold by Pompey to Brighton for 3.5m going up to 5m last summer.
That is the absolute minimum we should be accepting, at least through the first couple of months of the summer.

Yes, you keep saying it. And others keep pointing at the fact that we consistently keep underselling our players and don’t seem to be able, or willing to walk away from a deal. Portsmouth are absolutely loaded now - they splash the cash and have no problems. Then look at our situation and the latest set of accounts that just came out.

The players and their contract situations are very similar. Their selling clubs are vastly different. And that is what will dictate the deal.

 

[LeftSideBoy]

Yes, you keep saying it. And others keep pointing at the fact that we consistently keep underselling our players and don’t seem to be able, or willing to walk away from a deal. Portsmouth are absolutely loaded now - they splash the cash and have no problems. Then look at our situation and the latest set of accounts that just came out.

The players and their contract situations are very similar. Their selling clubs are vastly different. And that is what will dictate the deal.

They own their stadium.

 

[Banbury2018]

They own their stadium.

Not forgetting 18k in it every home game.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

They own their stadium.

Among other things. They can afford to tell clubs to stick their offers while buying players for millions themselves. We can’t. Not right now anyway.

 

[Followtheox1]

I've not read every post in detail but all these posts about Dickie being our best defender by far this season and Atkinson and Moore stepping up next season as our CB pairing. Has Mousinho been mentioned in any of this? Don't discount Mousinho being part of our defence next season. Personally I think he has been up there with Dickie this season. He has stepped up massively this season, don't forget he was essentially told he could become a coach when we signed Moore. He has kept him out for most of the season until his injury.

 

[Marked Ox]

If someone waves £1m in cash at us while tapping their watch as his final year winds down, do you think we could afford to tell them to stick it?

Yes. We didn't let Curtis Nelson go in his final year yet even with his injury we could have got a fee for him.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

Yes. We didn't let Curtis Nelson go in his final year yet even with his injury we could have got a fee for him.

How many offers did we have for Curtis Nelson in his last year?

 

[beyondthefourth]

I've not read every post in detail but all these posts about Dickie being our best defender by far this season and Atkinson and Moore stepping up next season as our CB pairing. Has Mousinho been mentioned in any of this? Don't discount Mousinho being part of our defence next season. Personally I think he has been up there with Dickie this season. He has stepped up massively this season, don't forget he was essentially told he could become a coach when we signed Moore. He has kept him out for most of the season until his injury.

I would certainly assume (unless we recruit further in CB), that it would be Mous and Moore, with Atkinson being slowly blooded in.

 

[tonyw]

Yes, you keep saying it. And others keep pointing at the fact that we consistently keep underselling our players and don’t seem to be able, or willing to walk away from a deal. Portsmouth are absolutely loaded now - they splash the cash and have no problems. Then look at our situation and the latest set of accounts that just came out.

The players and their contract situations are very similar. Their selling clubs are vastly different. And that is what will dictate the deal.

So your argument is that the people who run our club are morons who aren't capable of properly valuing our players and/or negotiating a deal?

I mean that might be true. If they accept one million for Dickie in June or July, it definitely is true.

It's all very well saying "We're poor, we're desperate, we'll take any offer that comes along". But if Burnley, Southampton & Leeds are all interested in Dickie, and we don't use that level of interest to bump up the price to Matthew Clarke levels, then Tiger & co. may as well organise a big party at the Kasstad and set fire to millions of pounds. It would be just as economically wasteful.

If August comes round, and that level of interest in Dickie isn't there......then we might be justified in selling at a cheaper price.
But I doubt it - there's not many defenders of his age and quality that are going to be on the market this summer.

 

[Foley]

If someone waves £1m in cash at us while tapping their watch as his final year winds down, do you think we could afford to tell them to stick it?

If Burnley, Southampton and Leeds are genuinely interested they would be prepared to pay well more than £1m if necessary (less than an annual salary for some players)