National Politics 🔴 The Labour Party

Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentan...rageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/november2025

The following information is for the period from July to September 2025.

  • Annual growth in employees' average earnings was 4.6% for regular earnings (excluding bonuses) and 4.8% for total earnings (including bonuses).
  • Annual growth in real terms, adjusted for inflation using the Consumer Prices Index including owner occupiers' housing costs (CPIH), was 0.5% for regular pay and 0.7% for total pay.

Average weekly salary is £750 or so............. before tax etc.

How are you spending your "improved wage growth" of £3.75 (less tax etx) a week?
Tesco meal deal although I have to invest 50p myself now 😩
 
Source: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentan...rageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/november2025

The following information is for the period from July to September 2025.

  • Annual growth in employees' average earnings was 4.6% for regular earnings (excluding bonuses) and 4.8% for total earnings (including bonuses).
  • Annual growth in real terms, adjusted for inflation using the Consumer Prices Index including owner occupiers' housing costs (CPIH), was 0.5% for regular pay and 0.7% for total pay.

Average weekly salary is £750 or so............. before tax etc.

How are you spending your "improved wage growth" of £3.75 (less tax etx) a week?

I know exactly what I would spend them on. For £3.30 the other day I went to our local Aldi after purchasing a Too Good To Go bag.

When I got there it was actually a big flat box containing the following.

Vegetable Sushi snack pack
Tandoori chicken snack pack
1/2 size loaf of malted brown bread
Pack of 4 sandwich flatbreads
1 nice big baking potato
1 good sized butternut squash
1 nice red pepper
Pack of 2 scotch eggs
2 packs of chopped onions
2 packs of Oriental stir fry
1 Katsu Poke chicken salad bowl
Pack of 2 caramel and white chocolate chunky cookie slices

I like a bargain and bought it out of curiosity. Next time I am on a late evening shop I would do it again.

I guess what I am saying is £3.75 actually buys you quite a lot sometimes and it is a skill many of us need to learn. And if the government gives you £3.75 extra and you p**s it up the wall then there is no helping people.

How much extra do you want?
 
I know exactly what I would spend them on. For £3.30 the other day I went to our local Aldi after purchasing a Too Good To Go bag.

When I got there it was actually a big flat box containing the following.

Vegetable Sushi snack pack
Tandoori chicken snack pack
1/2 size loaf of malted brown bread
Pack of 4 sandwich flatbreads
1 nice big baking potato
1 good sized butternut squash
1 nice red pepper
Pack of 2 scotch eggs
2 packs of chopped onions
2 packs of Oriental stir fry
1 Katsu Poke chicken salad bowl
Pack of 2 caramel and white chocolate chunky cookie slices

I like a bargain and bought it out of curiosity. Next time I am on a late evening shop I would do it again.

I guess what I am saying is £3.75 actually buys you quite a lot sometimes and it is a skill many of us need to learn. And if the government gives you £3.75 extra and you p**s it up the wall then there is no helping people.

How much extra do you want?

Yes it can, and many of us learnt that skill as kids.

And the £3.75 has to be taxed etc......... then the 8% average increase in fuel units should stop folk being able to cook their goody bag.

You could argue that people might, in fact, be worse off or suffering a cost of living crisis ....... another phrase oft used by Labour in opposition but now absent.
 
Yes it can, and many of us learnt that skill as kids.

And the £3.75 has to be taxed etc......... then the 8% average increase in fuel units should stop folk being able to cook their goody bag.

You could argue that people might, in fact, be worse off or suffering a cost of living crisis ....... another phrase oft used by Labour in opposition but now absent.
It may be factual , but like so many of your postings, it comes across as gleeful and smug.
 
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Their indecisiveness has clearly spooked the markets.
Get a grip women, you are the chancellor of exchequer.
As that old pop tune by Sweet exclaims, she hasn’t a clue what to do
First single I ever bought. 😜
 
Mahmood the bravest and most coherent politician in the last 10 years. Proof will be in the pudding, but she's already doing more than anyone else and I imagine the public will take quite kindly to her.

Not a bad position to be in if she wants to be PM one day, either.
That’s what I thought. Then I thought after, I bet the left of her party won’t warm to her much at all
 
This is the most inept Government ever.

Their only policy is managed decline. And they can’t even manage that properly.

Only hope is Streetlng as PM.
Overall I agree with you, but Mahmood and Streeting (as you mentioned) are both way more competent than the imbeciles around them.

Mahmood seems to be taking illegal crossings and migration with seriousness, I think it's easier when you're non-white and female as generally when white men say anything about immigration people queue up to shout insults at them.

Both major parties have huge internal rifts that seem almost impossible to fix.
 
Overall I agree with you, but Mahmood and Streeting (as you mentioned) are both way more competent than the imbeciles around them.

Mahmood seems to be taking illegal crossings and migration with seriousness, I think it's easier when you're non-white and female as generally when white men say anything about immigration people queue up to shout insults at them.

Both major parties have huge internal rifts that seem almost impossible to fix.

But isn’t it a sad state of affairs when we feel obliged to put a non-white lady into this post just because the white man is stereotypically a racist. I hope she does a good job all the same and that we get behind her. Some of the protests make me ashamed to be white and labelled with their tag as a result. But I think we need more all party involvement (despite the stonking majority) to put everything right and keep the Farage extremists out.
 
But isn’t it a sad state of affairs when we feel obliged to put a non-white lady into this post just because the white man is stereotypically a racist. I hope she does a good job all the same and that we get behind her. Some of the protests make me ashamed to be white and labelled with their tag as a result. But I think we need more all party involvement (despite the stonking majority) to put everything right and keep the Farage extremists out.
The "white man is stereotypically a racist" is utter nonsense.

If you want to be "ashamed to be white" that's on you. I think it's tragic though. There's extremists from every race and for some reason you think white people are in any way worse than other races? Bizarre.

The self-loathing towards Britain and 'whiteness: in our country is nothing short of bizarre and shows how effective brainwashing has been
 
All parties do at the moment apart from the Lib Dems. Reform? tick. Greens? tick.
Is there a rift within the greens?

Wasn't aware of that. I thought they seemed to be kicking on well under Polanski.

I assume it's some feeling they are becoming more populist?
 
Is there a rift within the greens?

Wasn't aware of that. I thought they seemed to be kicking on well under Polanski.

I assume it's some feeling they are becoming more populist?
It's maybe more that Polanski becoming leader was kind of a product of a rift, with him pushing left and populist. He's pulling it together well, but it's still early days.
 
Well the Guardian readers arent liking this government much and whilst i remain skeptical the Asylum policy shows that they can make policy that appeals to the centre ground. However whether their left back benchers that forced them to backtrack on benefits and winter fuel will let them remains to be seen. Their back benchers need to remember this was the most right leaning labour manifesto for decades i simply dont think they have a mandate to get elected on a right leaning manifesto then turn hard left once they have the votes.
 
Well the Guardian readers arent liking this government much and whilst i remain skeptical the Asylum policy shows that they can make policy that appeals to the centre ground. However whether their left back benchers that forced them to backtrack on benefits and winter fuel will let them remains to be seen. Their back benchers need to remember this was the most right leaning labour manifesto for decades i simply dont think they have a mandate to get elected on a right leaning manifesto then turn hard left once they have the votes.
Their back benchers couldn't care less, the way they see it is they're likely here for one parliamentery term, so why go against your own beliefs only to be thrown out at the next election anyway. Their way or the highway. Same problem the Tories had in delivering on Brexit.
 
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