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Recent club communication

Put this in the cancelled AGM thread, apologies. Copy and paste here:

Just came back here to say well done OxVox for a good update and a good open letter to the club. As I read through my anger heightened when I saw that Dusan had cancelled the planned meeting. It is only slightly simmered down reading the asterisk update that Tim and Dusan are now scrambling to provide a response.

Please keep this pressure up on both Dusan and Tim. They need to understand that the communication is awful at every level and they need to provide answers, not glib brush offs, in reply to each of the points in the letter.

I hope to see more updates of this kind from OxVox, as well as more of this kind of transparency over cancelled meetings etc. Fans need to know if the leadership are treating OxVox with disdain too, as that points to even wider problems.
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
Put this in the cancelled AGM thread, apologies. Copy and paste here:

Just came back here to say well done OxVox for a good update and a good open letter to the club. As I read through my anger heightened when I saw that Dusan had cancelled the planned meeting. It is only slightly simmered down reading the asterisk update that Tim and Dusan are now scrambling to provide a response.

Please keep this pressure up on both Dusan and Tim. They need to understand that the communication is awful at every level and they need to provide answers, not glib brush offs, in reply to each of the points in the letter.

I hope to see more updates of this kind from OxVox, as well as more of this kind of transparency over cancelled meetings etc. Fans need to know if the leadership are treating OxVox with disdain too, as that points to even wider problems.
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Presumably Tim Williams is in the process of travelling to Cadiz or more pertinently, Jakarta?

Bogdanovic looks to have sent a text message?
 
Not to defend them, but if s**t really has hit the fan I would expect the SMT to be fully focused on and spending every waking minute trying to mitigate the effects rather than giving statements. If Bogdanovic's London meeting could have been helpful to OUFC, then it's well worth postponing OxVox for. It doesn't necessarily mean fans are being treated with disdain.
 
Whingit said:
Not to defend them, but if s**t really has hit the fan I would expect the SMT to be fully focused on and spending every waking minute trying to mitigate the effects rather than giving statements. If Bogdanovic's London meeting could have been helpful to OUFC, then it's well worth postponing OxVox for. It doesn't necessarily mean fans are being treated with disdain.
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True. In that scenario I'd expect Dusan to say to OxVox one of the following two versions (ideally number 2, but accept that 1 is more likely):

1) "really sorry, I've had to cancel the meeting as I have a crucial meeting in London. I can't tell you what it's about unfortunately, but I want to reassure you that I wouldn't be cancelling our meeting if this wasn't crucial for the club. Please pass this message on to the fans and assure them I will provide a full update as soon as I can"

2) "really sorry, I've had to cancel the meeting as I have a crucial meeting in London. The meeting is about [X] and so you can see why I need to prioritise this as it is crucial for the club. Please pass this message on to the fans and assure them I will provide a full update as soon as I can"

If he hasn't (which it sounds like he hasn't) then that's still not good enough in my book. Good work from OxVox though in drawing this all out.
 
Great work OxVox, firm,measured and just enough latent anger.

And I love this bit.................

"Supporters are the constant at this club and have been here through good times and bad, and will be here long after owners, managers and players have left."
 
Is the KasStad still an asset of community value? Might be worth knowing if things quickly deteriorate.
 
tomoufc said:
Is the KasStad still an asset of community value? Might be worth knowing if things quickly deteriorate.
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These statements only have a shelf life of 5 years then have to be renewed. If a sale/divestment process is triggered then a 6 month moratorium might preclude certain bidders. I know this only too well from current process of said divestment of the KCC windmills.
 
The Kassam Stadium is also currently listed as an asset of community value by Oxford City Council (see - Assets of Community Value - The Kassam Stadium | Oxford City Council). The current listing expired on 27 June 2023.The cover provided through listing is limited and cannot prevent the termination of the lease/licence nor compel the owner to sell the asset to the ‘community’ or a representative of a community.

The question is whether OxVox renewed it in 2023.
 
I would hope OxVox could keep a more regular communication up with the fans at this time. An excellent letter issued on Monday, with an update that Tim Williams had said he would try and call by the end of the day. I would therefore have expected an update on the following day confirming whether the call had taken place or not, and promising further details. We didn't get that yesterday, so I would really hope OxVox comment before the end of today confirming one way or another. We don't need a full update, just a confirmation on whether Tim (or Dusan) are taking OxVox (and by extension Oxford United fans) seriously or not.
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
I would hope OxVox could keep a more regular communication up with the fans at this time. An excellent letter issued on Monday, with an update that Tim Williams had said he would try and call by the end of the day. I would therefore have expected an update on the following day confirming whether the call had taken place or not, and promising further details. We didn't get that yesterday, so I would really hope OxVox comment before the end of today confirming one way or another. We don't need a full update, just a confirmation on whether Tim (or Dusan) are taking OxVox (and by extension Oxford United fans) seriously or not.
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I would suggest @OxVox will deal with this in their normal controlled and measured manner with an update in due course.

A rushed "short note" could easily rock the apple cart too much, albeit the cart needs a hefty shove!

Updates/Press releases would need to be circulated and agreed on.

We should also remember they are a voluntary, democratically elected collective that have "day jobs" as well.
 
Yes, appreciate that. I think your second line is where I'm at now. I want to see some rocking of that apple cart! If fan's are angry at the lack of comms from the club, I want OxVox to be the antidote, keeping us all regularly informed. I know this is impatience, but at the moment I am impatient!
 
Essexyellows said:
We should also remember they are a voluntary, democratically elected collective that have "day jobs" as well.
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I don't disagree with this per se, but as you simultaneously continue to mock FAB I'm wondering who you expect to hold the club leadership to account in a timely fashion if not Oxvox?
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
I would hope OxVox could keep a more regular communication up with the fans at this time. An excellent letter issued on Monday, with an update that Tim Williams had said he would try and call by the end of the day. I would therefore have expected an update on the following day confirming whether the call had taken place or not, and promising further details. We didn't get that yesterday, so I would really hope OxVox comment before the end of today confirming one way or another. We don't need a full update, just a confirmation on whether Tim (or Dusan) are taking OxVox (and by extension Oxford United fans) seriously or not.
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Yes it was an excellent email. I also feel that they should follow up with us this week, whatever response they've had. I think these days you need to be a bit more responsive and fast-moving, and 'quick' beats 'thorough and considered'.
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
I would hope OxVox could keep a more regular communication up with the fans at this time. An excellent letter issued on Monday, with an update that Tim Williams had said he would try and call by the end of the day. I would therefore have expected an update on the following day confirming whether the call had taken place or not, and promising further details. We didn't get that yesterday, so I would really hope OxVox comment before the end of today confirming one way or another. We don't need a full update, just a confirmation on whether Tim (or Dusan) are taking OxVox (and by extension Oxford United fans) seriously or not.
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an Organisation is only as strong as its members. The more members the stronger voice they have ( are you a member of OxVox @OnlyOneUnited ? - OxVox AGM takes place soon, a number of commitee places are up for election, maybe you could apply and help make a difference?)

OxVox is run by volunteers, most with day jobs, liaising with OUFC SMT ( including the thus far evasive , invisible and silent Chairman) is, as we know already, down to the willingness of key SMT members being available to OxVox representatives ( who alsothemselves need to be available), OxVox have no control over key SMT members pulling out/ cancelling pre arranged 'meetings'. When there is something to report, OxVox will report it
 
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Sarge said:
an Organisation is only as strong as its members. The more members the stronger voicethey have ( are you a member of OxVox @OnlyOneUnited ? - OxVox AGM takes place soon, a number of coomitee places are up for election, maybe you could apply and help make a difference?)

OxVox is run by volunteers, most with day jobs, liaising with OUFC SMT ( including the thus far evasive , invisible and silent Chairman) is, as we know already, down to the willingness of key SMT members being available to OxVox representatives ( who alsothemselves need to be available), OxVox have no control over key SMT members pulling out/ cancelling pre arranged 'meetings'. When there is something to report, OxVox will report it
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I am a life member, have been for a good few years. I've got huge respect for Paul, and all at OxVox, for donating their time. When I've contacted them directly about certain things (namely some questions on the stadium) I got a direct reply, which is great. I myself could not spare that time with all the other commitments in my own life, so I don't take that for granted.

I understand the difficult situation they are in with this, and that they can only report as much as they are told. That's why I think at this stage, with everything going on, it would be no bad thing to provide a running commentary, with short updates informing us whether certain meetings have happened. Would it damage relationships with the club leadership? Maybe. Would it demonstrate Oxford fans are pissed off and not willing to be put in a corner and patted on the head any more? Probably. Maybe the apple cart does need rocking now.

Or maybe this demonstrates why I shouldn't be anywhere near this kind of position, because I wouldn't have the diplomacy and would just be telling Tim Williams he's a useless t**t every five minutes! 😂
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
I am a life member, have been for a good few years. I've got huge respect for Paul, and all at OxVox, for donating their time. When I've contacted them directly about certain things (namely some questions on the stadium) I got a direct reply, which is great. I myself could not spare that time with all the other commitments in my own life, so I don't take that for granted.

I understand the difficult situation they are in with this, and that they can only report as much as they are told. That's why I think at this stage, with everything going on, it would be no bad thing to provide a running commentary, with short updates informing us whether certain meetings have happened. Would it damage relationships with the club? Maybe. Would it demonstrate Oxford fans are pissed off and not willing to be put in a corner and patted on the head any more? Probably. Maybe the apple cart does need rocking now.

Or maybe this demonstrates why I shouldn't be anywhere near this kind of position, because I wouldn't have the diplomacy and would just be telling Tim Williams he's a useless t**t every five minutes! 😂
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Fair enough - fellow Oxvox lifer :)
 
OnlyOneUnited said:
I am a life member, have been for a good few years. I've got huge respect for Paul, and all at OxVox, for donating their time. When I've contacted them directly about certain things (namely some questions on the stadium) I got a direct reply, which is great. I myself could not spare that time with all the other commitments in my own life, so I don't take that for granted.

I understand the difficult situation they are in with this, and that they can only report as much as they are told. That's why I think at this stage, with everything going on, it would be no bad thing to provide a running commentary, with short updates informing us whether certain meetings have happened. Would it damage relationships with the club leadership? Maybe. Would it demonstrate Oxford fans are pissed off and not willing to be put in a corner and patted on the head any more? Probably. Maybe the apple cart does need rocking now.

Or maybe this demonstrates why I shouldn't be anywhere near this kind of position, because I wouldn't have the diplomacy and would just be telling Tim Williams he's a useless t**t every five minutes! 😂
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These days people are used to bulletins and updates on social media, and email circulars seem slow and old-fashioned, never mind talk of AGMs. I appreciate that OxVox may not want to switch to social media, but they need to keep in touch a bit more regularly at times like this.

(I've also wondered about getting involved but am not very patient or diplomatic!)

I'm a life member, got a badge and everything.
 
We wouldn’t want OxVox to be accused of the same traites as the club’s SMT in terms of communication!

So what if they come back and say that Tim unfortunately wasn’t able to call that evening, but he did communicate that he’ll arrange another convenient day/time which would hopefully include Dusan too, but if there’s been radio silence, then I think that should be communicated too.

Fans are already concerned, so if the club’s SMT continue to not be available or courteous, then I personally think that’s out of order, and shows what they think of the fans voice representative and the fans!

I’m also an OxVox life member, and fully appreciate all that they do.
 
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SirAndyOfCrosby said:
I don't disagree with this per se, but as you simultaneously continue to mock FAB I'm wondering who you expect to hold the club leadership to account in a timely fashion if not Oxvox?
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OxVox will and do hold the leadership to account, in a very firm, measured way.

I couldn`t do it........ its a paticular skill set.

I mock FAB because it is an eminently pointless club construct from a tick box exercise, and I hold grave concerns that the hierachy at the club think that it is more important than OxVox ................

If nobody stood for the head patting the Club would have to use OxVox that represent far more of us than FAB.
 
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