General Quarterly Season Review (POLL)

Rate The Season So Far (Out of 5)

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Level: Les Phillips
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Now that we're almost exactly a quarter of the way through our first season back in the Championship (26% to be exact) I thought it would be interesting to see everyone's views on how we've done so far.

I'll go through my views on the games so far using a ten point scale: 0, 1, 2 is absolutely TERRIBLE; 3, 4 is BELOW AVERAGE; 5 is AVERAGE, 6, 7 is ABOVE AVERAGE and 8, 9, 10 is SUPERB. I'm taking into account not just the score but how good the opposition has turned out to be so far this season, what form they were in at the time we played them, how we performed and if it was home or away.

1. OUFC 2-0 Norwich: A truly stunning result against a side who are now 8th. Scored two and didn't concede. What a start that was. 9/10 SUPERB.

2. Coventry 3-2 OUFC: We were outplayed at times and got a bit lucky to be level - but then truly unlucky to concede a goal right at the death with *that* awful backpass. Hard to rate this as we lost and Coventry are now 18th but it felt okay the time. Jamie Cumming kept us in it with incredible saves and we scored an odd goal from a driving header onto a penis. I'm going to call it 4/10 BELOW AVERAGE, just because Coventry turned out to be so bad for the rest of the season (they've only won 2 other games), and they battered us at times.

3. Blackburn 2-1 OUFC: Frustrating to again lose to a silly mistake when we were in the game. Blackburn are a decent side, away from home, I'm going to call it 5/10 AVERAGE, because we weren't dominated like we were at Coventry, and Blackburn are clearly a much better side, currently 6th.

4. OUFC 3-1 Preston: Nothing else to call this except 8/10 SUPERB. Yes Preston are 16th but we scored 3 and could have had more.

5. OUFC 1-0 Stoke: Another 8/10 SUPERB, because although Stoke are 19th they have some good players and had just beaten Plymouth before playing us - and would go on to hammer Portsmouth 6-1.

6. Bristol City 2-1 OUFC: We went 1-0 up and Harris should really have made it 2-0. At the time the focus was very much on revenge for Manning. Bristol City are a mid table side who were in fairly poor form at the time. All that combined means I'll have to call that 4/10 BELOW AVERAGE - not bad as we were away from home and they have some decent players, but still disappointing.

7. OUFC 0-0 Burnley: They're a top side, second in the league, and we kept them to a draw. Because we were at home, and for the sake of the scoring system making sense (yes it's flawed) I'm going to call it 7/10 ABOVE AVERAGE.

8. Luton Town 2-2 OUFC: Another really hard one to score - they've just come down from the PL, and we were 2-0 down so to come away with a draw at their place is great, however they went down to ten men and have generally been terrible this season, languishing in 22nd place, so we really should have won it, especially with the chances we created. I'll call it 6/10 ABOVE AVERAGE.

9. Portsmouth 1-1 OUFC: They battered us to an extent, and this is a side who can barely win a game and had just been smashed - however they also had managed some decent draws, and Fratton Park was bouncing. A 5/10 AVERAGE for me, taking all that into account.

10. OUFC 1-1 West Brom: They were the better side first half, we were the better side second half. Good team who are 5th, but we were at home means it's a 6/10 ABOVE AVERAGE result for me.

11. OUFC 1-1 Derby: At home, we dominated the first half and were comfortably 1-0 up and could have had another - then we collapsed second half and were awful, and maybe lucky to come away with a point. All came from an OUFC mistake which was frustrating. 4/10 BELOW AVERAGE for the fact that we should have seen the win out, and Derby came up with us, and we were at home, unlike the Portsmouth draw.

12. Sunderland 2-0 OUFC: The Sunderland commentators said we 'didn't lay a glove on them'. Yes they're good and we were away from home, but overall a 3/10 BELOW AVERAGE performance.

If you add up all those scores then it's an average of 5.75 - Round it up and you have a 6/10 ABOVE AVERAGE performance so far, which feels about right - we're 14th, mid table, with 14 points or 1.17 PPG, which leaves us currently 3 points above the relegation zone.

I'd definitely take that at the end of the season and would be ecstatic by the way, so I'm not saying I'm only 6/10 happy with how we've done or anything (I'm more like 8/10 happy) but that's just going on a game by game basis and looking at it like we're a Championship side now who deserve to be here, not one who are delighted just to make up the numbers.

Feel free to ignore this, you don't have to tell me if you find this stupid or boring (!) but what does everyone else think? Have we done better or worse than 6/10 with our W3, D5, L4?
 
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6 out of 10, fantastic start where we looked fit, well drilled and pace in the right areas.

We are sliding into predictable, slow and blunt. People are reverting to the “just glad to be here” mentality. I even saw a “at least it was Sunderland not Accrington” post on X. Madness!

Decisions in the window coming to bite us, but hopeful injuries will fix and help us out. They have to right?
 
I think it’s preferable to lose 2-0 away to the team that’s now 5 points clear in the championship- as opposed to a team that’s now 20th in league 2.

Can someone explain why that opinion is “madness “?
 
It’s a mentality that will see us relegated. We deserve to be at this level. Regardless of where we’ve come from.
Nobody “deserves “ anything. We ‘ll stay up if we get more points than 3 other teams in the championship. Points aren’t awarded for opinions expressed on Twitter - or on this forum.

(Hate to think where we’d be if your opinion counted)
 
Points/results are only one metric. There are other positives beyond that particularly where the playing squad is concerned, but there are some worrying signs creeping in that we need to arrest.

Yesterday was the first time I felt we’d gone right in to our shell and looked totally out of our depth. Scared to step on to them or play through lines. Whether that’s more because they were so good or we were so inept is up for debate, but there was a fear, carelessness and lethargy about us that I hadn’t seen yet. Are we spent? Is it all just down to injuries and we need to relax a bit? Are other teams now finding rhythm and showing us more respect that’s making it tougher? I can’t quite decide where I am, but few can deny there’s been a shift and the upcoming home games must be seen as opportunities for maximum points. Our failure to beat Pompey or Derby meant the respectable ‘bonus’ draws with West Brom, Luton and Burnley were actually critical which isn’t ideal.

But I’ve commented before that Des comes across as very flat lately and the players have lost that extra yard that was getting us on top in games for periods most weeks. We’ve been playing more and more on the back foot recently and that’s a slippery slope.

I don’t think it’s panic stations but we also shouldn’t be daft enough to think there’s 3 quarters of the season and points will just turn up. We don’t want to get to Christmas still needing 30+ points.

Lots to applaud but I’ve gone from a 9 a few weeks ago to a 7 now and if the next fortnight goes poorly it’ll be a 5.
 
14 points from a quarter of the games.

If we continue at that rate, we’ll accumulate 56 points, that will see us safely in mid-table (probably between 12-17th.

There is very little to grumble about and I think the start has exceeded the expectation of many, outside of a section of our fan base.

Onwards and upwards
 
6/7
Yes mistakes have cost points. But they've earned points where nobody (outside of OUFC club and fans) expected them to.
Above average so far is fair assessment.
 
I mean they don't count for points. As they say opinions are like .... everybody's got one.

Some are interesting, some are enjoyable some are insightful, and we all like discussing our football team but I don't think that expressing an opinion that it's better to lose to Sunderland than Accrington will create "a mentality that will see us relegated" .
 
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I mean they don't count for points. As they say opinions are like .... everybody's got one.

Some are interesting, some are enjoyable some are insightful, and we all like discussing our football team but I don't think that expressing an opinion that it's better to lose to Sunderland than Accrington will create "a mentality that will see us relegated" .
I don’t think anyone’s saying that. But the constant “we used to be losing at Histon” is not helpful.

You never progress with that mindset. We are a Championship team with Billionaire backers. We should be giving Sunderland a game. It’s not Man City. Sunderland finished 16th last season.

There is nobody in this league we should be losing to in the manner we lost yesterday.
 
We began really well and it looks as though we had a great squad. But we've been unfortunate with injuries and perhaps we've discovered that some of the bargains we've picked up were bargains for a reason. And it's hard for our players to do this week after week- with three games in 6 or 7 days becoming the norm and several of our players facing long journeys on internatiomal breaks

Brannagan is a big miss, and not having a single fit winger with pace has affected our attacking options and also meant we don't have an out-ball which has increased the pressure on our defence.

We have to hang on in there and if we do manage to stay up it will be the a major step completed in project Top 30. And we're still on target for that. Anything else is a bonus, so 6.5 out of 10.

Sunderland showed quite how far there is to go. Players like Jobe Bellingham are simply in a different league.
 
We began really well and it looks as though we had a great squad. But we've been unfortunate with injuries and perhaps we've discovered that some of the bargains we've picked up were bargains for a reason. And it's hard for our players to do this week after week- with three games in 6 or 7 days becoming the norm and several of our players facing long journeys on internatiomal breaks

Brannagan is a big miss, and not having a single fit winger with pace has affected our attacking options and also meant we don't have an out-ball which has increased the pressure on our defence.

We have to hang on in there and if we do manage to stay up it will be the a major step completed in project Top 30. And we're still on target for that. Anything else is a bonus, so 6.5 out of 10.

Sunderland showed quite how far there is to go. Players like Jobe Bellingham are simply in a different league.
Jobe Bellingham cost 1.5 million. So a little bit more than Dembele.

We are not talking Ronaldinho here.
 
I don’t think anyone’s saying that. But the constant “we used to be losing at Histon” is not helpful.

You never progress with that mindset. We are a Championship team with Billionaire backers. We should be giving Sunderland a game. It’s not Man City. Sunderland finished 16th last season.

There is nobody in this league we should be losing to in the manner we lost yesterday.
You said those very words

People are reverting to the “just glad to be here” mentality. I even saw a “at least it was Sunderland not Accrington” post on X. Madness!
when i asked why that was Madness you replied
It’s a mentality that will see us relegated. We deserve to be at this level. Regardless of where we’ve come from.

I know expecting consistency from you is a bit like expecting common sense from VAR but nonetheless you need to be pulled up on it.

Sunderland finished 16th last season. (which is what we should be aiming for this season)

Their team of brilliant kids is now a year older. which means that Jobe Beliingham is the quality we saw yesterday. And they now have an excellent coach as well

They can spend more than us because they have 40000 crowds.
 
I don’t think anyone’s saying that. But the constant “we used to be losing at Histon” is not helpful.

You never progress with that mindset. We are a Championship team with Billionaire backers. We should be giving Sunderland a game. It’s not Man City. Sunderland finished 16th last season.

There is nobody in this league we should be losing to in the manner we lost yesterday.

The "billionaire backers" is as unhelpful as the references to Histon. We can only spend relative to the income generated through the club which is hugely hindered by our stadium situation. The owners have supported the club, but we're building a Championship side from scratch where as others have been able to spend more on a handful of additions.

The manner we lost yesterday was as much to do with our limitations through injuries as it was to being completed outclassed. And yet it still took two excellent goals to beat us.

Overall, I think that we're two point off where I'd have hoped for, but 4 or 5 points up on where I feared we may be. Plenty more games to go, but we're doing ok and there are lots of reasons why we can hope to pick up enough points to keep several teams below us.
 
Jobe Bellingham cost 1.5 million. So a little bit more than Dembele.

We are not talking Ronaldinho here.
It says the fee was undisclosed. Did his agent text you the figure?

We have no idea how that deal was structured but we do know that Sunderland's sporting director was academy manager at Birmingham city and I see no reason why Jobe Bellingham should not be as good a footballer as his brother ,

Patrick roberts was a 12 million pound player a few years ago.
 
The "billionaire backers" is as unhelpful as the references to Histon. We can only spend relative to the income generated through the club which is hugely hindered by our stadium situation. The owners have supported the club, but we're building a Championship side from scratch where as others have been able to spend more on a handful of additions.

The manner we lost yesterday was as much to do with our limitations through injuries as it was to being completed outclassed. And yet it still took two excellent goals to beat us.

Overall, I think that we're two point off where I'd have hoped for, but 4 or 5 points up on where I feared we may be. Plenty more games to go, but we're doing ok and there are lots of reasons why we can hope to pick up enough points to keep several teams below us.

I take your points but, trust me, we were outclassed yesterday in every area - including desire. I don’t think our injured players make any difference yesterday, Sunderland had more gears, I think they could have upped it any time they wanted. There was a period in the second half when they were knocking the ball around us with ease, we had no answers. It’s no shame, we were well and truly done over by a team who will likely end up getting promoted.
 
It says the fee was undisclosed. Did his agent text you the figure?

We have no idea how that deal was structured but we do know that Sunderland's sporting director was academy manager at Birmingham city and I see no reason why Jobe Bellingham should not be as good a footballer as his brother ,

Patrick roberts was a 12 million pound player a few years ago.

Could be bullshit mind. We could have just come up against Ronaldinho.
 
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