National Politics 🟣 Reform UK

[Kamal]

Anyone got the violin out?

 

[Jason]

Anyone got the violin out?

I'm the victim, whilst blaming and naming The Times journalist who broke the story. What a c**t!

 

[Marked Ox]

Farage "Wah, wah, wah, woe is me".

 

[Jason]

Farage "Wah, wah, wah, woe is me".

Boats boats boats.

Resigned... good. Hope Clacton will tell him to do one.

"People versus the establishment".

What a knob.

 

[boogaloo]

Always moaning. Always the victim. Although fantastic news that he's resigned, and hopefully his hubris will backfire, and the residents of Clacton will vote on what Farage has actually done for them - which is absolutely nothing!

 

[Peterdev]

No chance he will lose Clacton
Sam Coates in Sky said it was in Kent twice…no Sam it’s in Essex

 

[QR]

Completely unnecessary taxpayer expense purely to play to Farage's selfish, performative ego and dodge questions about his millionaire backers.

Oh and none of the Reform supporters out there have had a go at answering the question I posed a couple of days ago. Wonder why?

A serious question for Reform voters or potential Reform voters... Do you think these multi-millionaires, some who don't live in the UK, bankroll Farage because they think he'll be good for your average working class Brits? If not, why do you think they throw their money at him?

Nigel Farage did not declare gifts from crypto entrepreneur convicted of fraud

Reform UK’s Robert Jenrick says Farage accepted staff, security and accommodation from George Cottrell before becoming an MP

www.theguardian.com

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

It’s funny how annoyed journalists get when they’re excluded from things. There were no journalists present at the statement and no questions were asked - and the BBC have mentioned it twice, sarcastically, and the Times journalist they had on straight after immediately complained about it too

 

[Peterdev]

Completely unnecessary taxpayer expense purely to play to Farage's selfish, performative ego and dodge questions about his millionaire backers.

Oh and none of the Reform supporters of there have had a go at answering the question I posed a couple of days ago. Wonder why?

Makerfield and Manchester are a bigger waste of money

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

Completely unnecessary taxpayer expense purely to play to Farage's selfish, performative ego and dodge questions about his millionaire backers.

Oh and none of the Reform supporters of there have had a go at answering the question I posed a couple of days ago. Wonder why?

To be fair apparently a byelection could have been triggered anyway so it might have needed to happen regardless.

As for your question, I’m not at all a Reform supporter and I suspect the answer is that no, they are in for their own personal gain or aims. Where I’d push back is I think it’s pretty unarguable that plenty of big Labour and Conservative donors are exactly the same…

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

I mean, if he's trying to pull this stunt in the hope all the nasty scrutiny of his dodgy finance will go away, he's in for a big disappointment - it will simply restart if he gets elected again.

As for Farage losing Clacton - he clearly already has on a map . . . .

Ah well, it's been a good 24 hours for lying gobshites being losers
FOSB's claim for a JR
Trump getting a red card suspended by Infantino and it backfiring spectacularly
And now Farage

#lovelystuff

 

[QR]

To be fair apparently a byelection could have been triggered anyway so it might have needed to happen regardless.

As for your question, I’m not at all a Reform supporter and I suspect the answer is that no, they are in for their own personal gain or aims. Where I’d push back is I think it’s pretty unarguable that plenty of big Labour and Conservative donors are exactly the same…

There is a world of difference between a person giving money to political party (ie the way our political parties are and have always been funded) and a person giving very large sums of money, as a personal gift, to a politician. It's a false equivalent.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

It would be sweet to see nobody other than Count Binface stand against him in this act of performative self-indulgent theatre

Then again, he's used to pyrrhic victories.

 

[Followtheox1]

So an establishment figure has triggered a by-election and says it's to put two fingers up at the establishment. Even though he is well and truly part of the establishment he says this election will be him against the establishment..I am confused.

 

[QR]

It would be sweet to see nobody other than Count Binface stand against him in this act of performative self-indulgent theatre

Then again, he's used to pyrrhic victories.

If he won that one.

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

There is a world of difference between a person giving money to political party (ie the way our political parties are and have always been funded) and a person giving very large sums of money, as a personal gift, to a politician. It's a false equivalent.

When those political donors then get peerages, or advisory positions in government, or are awarded significant government contracts, I truly fail to see the relevant difference in terms of ‘good’ and ‘bad’. It’s equivalently corrupt, and wrong, and a bad way to run a country.

 

[QR]

When those political donors then get peerages, or advisory positions in government, or are awarded significant government contracts, I truly fail to see the relevant difference in terms of ‘good’ and ‘bad’. It’s equivalently corrupt, and wrong, and a bad way to run a country.

Because one donation goes into a party's back account the other goes into Farage's personal bank account. The difference is visible from the fkg moon!!

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

Because one donation goes into a party's back account the other goes into Farage's personal bank account. The difference is visible from the fkg moon!!

And then the party, when in power, unfairly rewards that person! Are you seriously saying it’s not as bad?! It’s arguably worse!

 

[Boris]

Because one donation goes into a party's back account the other goes into Farage's personal bank account. The difference is visible from the fkg moon!!

What you need to remember is that there is no party. Reform is a limited company with Farage as it's major (sole?) shareholder. Anything donated to Reform goes straight into Farage's back pocket

 

[Burglar Bill]

The man who has played the media to get to where he is for years, now calling out the media for attacking a family we've never heard anything about previously.

The guy is a t**t, and thinks winning a by-election of ice cream sellers and geriatrics is going to make everything ok.

 

[Followtheox1]

And then the party, when in power, unfairly rewards that person! Are you seriously saying it’s not as bad?! It’s arguably worse!

Also let's not pretend, if it emerged Kier Starmer or any other leader of a major political party had been given large gifts in similar circumstances, that the media and Nigel Farage wouldn't be all over it.

 

[QR]

And then the party, when in power, unfairly rewards that person! Are you seriously saying it’s not as bad?! It’s arguably worse!

I'm not a supporter of the honour system but I suppose at least it's relatively transparent so you and I can call out the buying a gongs. What isn't transparent are private payments of millions of pounds straight into Farage's back account. It's corruption of the highest level.

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

Also let's not pretend, if it emerged Kier Starmer or any other leader of a major political party had been given large gifts in similar circumstances, that the media and Nigel Farage wouldn't be all over it.

Oh absolutely. Very little of what happens in politics is now ‘is this a good or bad thing?’ its first ’did my side or their side do it?’

For example, did @QR call the Makerfield byelection a ‘Completely unnecessary taxpayer expense’? I’m very happy to apologise if they did, but the point stands.

But yeah, to be clear, Farage is a rank hypocrite of the worst kind. He’d be all over this if his political enemies did anything like what he’s done - and he certainly wouldn’t be calling it fine.

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

I'm not a supporter of the honour system but I suppose at least it's relatively transparent so you and I can call out the buying a gongs. What isn't transparent are private payments of millions of pounds straight into Farage's back account. It's corruption of the highest level.

It absolutely is corruption and it’s very wrong, I agree.

Where I differ is if Farage has used that money for his nasty little personal pleasures I find it less damaging, to society, than say the Conservatives being given £5m to spend on election advertising and mass leafleting and getting into power, and then the donor lobbying for laws to be changed in their favour.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

Farage is still under investigation for misuse of EU funds while campaigning for EU exit

 

[chuckbert]

I guess at least the byelection will give Farage the opportunity to visit Clacton.

 

[boogaloo]

It absolutely is corruption and it’s very wrong, I agree.

Where I differ is if Farage has used that money for his nasty little personal pleasures I find it less damaging, to society, than say the Conservatives being given £5m to spend on election advertising and mass leafleting and getting into power, and then the donor lobbying for laws to be changed in their favour.

Do you really think Christopher Harborne wants nothing in return for this £5 million gift? Or the £12 million he's already donated? Or even the £1 million reward that Ben Habib alleges he and Boris Johnson received for getting Brexit done (although curiously there hasn't been any legal action taken)?

 

[QR]

It absolutely is corruption and it’s very wrong, I agree.

Where I differ is if Farage has used that money for his nasty little personal pleasures I find it less damaging, to society, than say the Conservatives being given £5m to spend on election advertising and mass leafleting and getting into power, and then the donor lobbying for laws to be changed in their favour.

Where do you suggest political parties get their funding from and will the Quarry Popular Front be entitled to the same funding?

 

[Village-Yellow]

Oh absolutely. Very little of what happens in politics is now ‘is this a good or bad thing?’ its first ’did my side or their side do it?’

For example, did @QR call the Makerfield byelection a ‘Completely unnecessary taxpayer expense’? I’m very happy to apologise if they did, but the point stands.

But yeah, to be clear, Farage is a rank hypocrite of the worst kind. He’d be all over this if his political enemies did anything like what he’s done - and he certainly wouldn’t be calling it fine.

It's politicians doing what politicians always do.

Sick of the fcuking lot of em.

 

[SteMerritt]

So, MP is resigning because Parliamentary Commission is looking into his financials. He then immediately enters the election race again. If he wins, the Parliamentary Commission is surely duty-bound to continue looking into his financials, is it not?

Isn't this nothing more than political theatre?