National Politics 🟣 Reform UK

Would you vote for Reform under Nigel Farage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 20.1%

  • Maybe/Undecided

    Votes: 17 9.2%

  • No

    Votes: 130 70.7%
  • Total voters
    184
  • Poll closed .
Is it too much to ask of a politician not to behave like this?

Do people not just want someone competent without all this unnecessary spin and controversy?
 
This Ipswich stunt is a good thing. Things like taking the knee can now come back and nobody can whinge and whine about it like a delicate little snowflake because the 'keep politics out of football' argument holds no water anymore.
 
Whingit said:
This Ipswich stunt is a good thing. Things like taking the knee can now come back and nobody can whinge and whine about it like a delicate little snowflake because the 'keep politics out of football' argument holds no water anymore.
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Reform are not bothered by charges of hypocrisy and that is true for much of the radical right.

They don't intend to abide by the same rules and social norms as anyone else, and that's the point.

The stunts they perform and their phoney outrage relies on the distraction it creates. Those who represent the majority of reasonable minded people need to do a better job of exposing their profoundly floored arguments.
 
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HayfieldYellow said:
For a party that definitely isn't racist, Reform UK certainly seem to have a surprising number of racists among their ranks.

www.reformwatch.org

Reform Watch - Independent watchdog monitoring Reform UK

Independent watchdog monitoring Reform UK officials and holding them accountable for their actions.
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With Reform getting more in political donations than Labour and Conservative, you'd have thought they would have tightened up their vetting procedures and these types of people would not make it past initial screening, yet they still keep coming.

Maybe Reform just don't really care what sort of racists represent them. 🤔 🤔
 
According to tonight’s BBC Look East, it’s transpired that Farage was specifically invited to Ipswich Town by someone at the club, most probably our old friend, their chairman and CEO Mark Ashton. According to a number of fans disgusted by the visit, he’s got a few questions to answer.
 
Foley said:
Forage wouldn't kick him.out of Reform despite doing a Nazi salute?
What is going on? We fought Nazi Germany 80 years ago and British politicians think that a Nazi salute is OK?
FFS
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Unfortunately this sort of thing won’t put lots of people off from voting for them in May. Utterly depressing.
 
lodeyellow said:
Unfortunately this sort of thing won’t put lots of people off from voting for them in May. Utterly depressing.
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I think that the more that their racism, appalling behaviour and shocking running of local Council's is exposed, the more likely people will have second thoughts when the elections happen.
Similar things have happened with the AfD in Germany, the right-wing in Canada and other Countries
 
Foley said:
I think that the more that their racism, appalling behaviour and shocking running of local Council's is exposed, the more likely people will have second thoughts when the elections happen.
Similar things have happened with the AfD in Germany, the right-wing in Canada and other Countries
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I hope you’re right, and I’ve read about the fall-off in support for the AfD, etc. But people rowing back on their support for Reform is likely to be a rather slow process and I can see Reform winning a large number of council seats on 7 May, due in large part to Labour’s continuing unpopularity.
 
Foley said:
Forage wouldn't kick him.out of Reform despite doing a Nazi salute?
What is going on? We fought Nazi Germany 80 years ago and British politicians think that a Nazi salute is OK?
FFS
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In a way what worries me is that it seems acceptable to carry on as a politician when you display truly terrible judgement. Even if what the bloke says about it being a basil fawlty impression is true, why on earth as a potential candidate for a right wing party would you be choosing to do that? So either he’s a nazi, or he has terrible judgement, or both. And farridge is happy with that in his party.
 
For me some of reform is good, some is not, some is not for me......

However what I really dislike at the moment is ALL the political parties Inc the SNP and Plaid saying vote for us to keep Farage out! Is that the level of politics now that it's all about stopping Farage and not what they can do and what they have to offer!
 
Foley said:
I think that the more that their racism, appalling behaviour and shocking running of local Council's is exposed, the more likely people will have second thoughts when the elections happen.
Similar things have happened with the AfD in Germany, the right-wing in Canada and other Countries
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Why would Farage care about a Reform UK doing a Nazi salute when Farage himehelf goosestepped through English villages in uniform singing Hitler Youth songs as a teenager?
 
This is really good. Definitely not Mark Ashton’s finest hour.
 
QR said:
I'm old enough to remember Reform's response to Angela Rayner's 'minor administrative error'.

BBC News - Tice £91,000 tax row is 'minor administrative error', party claims
www.bbc.co.uk

Richard Tice tax row is 'minor administrative error', party claims

A property company owned by the Reform UK deputy leader failed to pay £91,000 in tax on dividends, according to the Sunday Times.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Refrom slams Rayner over alleged tax moves - Yahoo News UK https://share.google/A0j0BhhVAewkXGITp
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Well, they've got good form. They brought in Nadim Zahawi, who was sacked by Rishi Sunak over his tax affairs.

And then there is of course the house in Southend that Nigel Farage bought, or rather he didn't buy, as soon as the media started questioning why no Stamp Duty was paid on it. Also Farage spoke at a conference for a company that advises rich people how to get second passports that allow them to avoid paying tax in the UK.

And speaking of Richard Tice:- There are also allegations that Richard Tice's property company, Quidnet Reit Ltd, used "rare legal status" to avoid significant corporation tax (over £600,000) between 2018 and 2021. Further allegations suggested the company "broke the law" by failing to pay taxes on dividends to his offshore trust.
 
Just down the road in the County......

www.bbc.co.uk

Reform wins close Leicestershire County Council by-election

Reform candidate Dee North says she is "ecstatic" to defend the seat for the party.
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To be fair the local Green party really missed an open goal by not getting folk out to vote and spent more time saying vote for us because we aren`t them.

Neither did it help that, in a fairly rural area, their candidate spent most of the campaign suggesting "animal farming" was killing the plant and we should all go vegetarian and cover agricultural land with "more solar"..................
 
As a dad of two school age children, Farage has FINALLY announced his plans for education. So what does this mean - more teachers? Smaller clasrooms? More teaching materials and resources? Better SEN support? Nope!

Within their first 100 days in Government, Reform has pledged to implement a new curriculum which shows a "patriotic history of the British Isles". What exactly doe that mean? Telling kids about the good stuff - the printing press, Magna Carta, Isambard Brunel, Industrial Revolution will no doubt be part of that. And presumably the less palatable stuff like colonisation, racism and slavery will be hidden from them. That's not history - that's propaganda.

And also they plan to put a flag up in every school and a picture of some unelected descendant of a usurper. Is this the UK, or North Korea?

www.lbc.co.uk

Every state school to be ordered to fly Union Flag and display portrait of the King if Reform win power | LBC

Reform UK would force schools to display portraits of the King and fly the Union Flag, alongside the introduction of "patriotic" history lessons.
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No self-respecting history teacher - of whom unfortunately there are a decreasing number because the subject is being phased out in many schools (and also, I believe, at a number of universities) - would have anything to do with Reform’s revised curriculum.
 
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