National Politics 🟣 Reform UK

[Scotchegg]

Too many Left wing Labour loonies on here.

Not worth engaging with, if you don’t agree with there views and opinions, and upset them with a different view, your are a Right Wing racist, Fascist, Xenophobic horrible person.

If you don't want to be given these kind of labels it's probably not best to describe people of certain Asian origins as all looking the same!

From someone who was a lifelong Tory voter until Boris destroyed them, and considers himself a little to the right of centre but still an undeniable looney - and proud of it!

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

"Vote for us we aren`t them"

"They let you down"

"Its not us its them"

Recruit lots of them.

Awkward.


Games gone.

As one commentator put it, Suella Braverman complaining that Britain is broken is a bit like Fred West complaining his patio is a bit uneven....

 

[lodeyellow]

If you don't want to be given these kind of labels it's probably not best to describe people of certain Asian origins as all looking the same!

From someone who was a lifelong Tory voter until Boris destroyed them, and considers himself a little to the right of centre but still an undeniable looney - and proud of it!

Quite seriously, why don’t you get involved with this new group of moderate Tories that’s just been announced? There seem to be some decent people associated with it.

Tory pair aim to attract 'politically homeless' with new movement

Sir Andy Street and Baroness Ruth Davidson believe they can win back voters who have snubbed the Conservatives.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

Quite seriously, why don’t you get involved with this new group of moderate Tories that’s just been announced? There seem to be some decent people associated with it.

Tory pair aim to attract 'politically homeless' with new movement

Sir Andy Street and Baroness Ruth Davidson believe they can win back voters who have snubbed the Conservatives.

www.bbc.co.uk

I’d personally be delighted if the tories went more central. Stopped the immigration claptrap and started having policy and ideas to challenge the Labour government to put the country first. A decent government needs a healthy and strong opposition to keep it in check.

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Quite seriously, why don’t you get involved with this new group of moderate Tories that’s just been announced? There seem to be some decent people associated with it.

Tory pair aim to attract 'politically homeless' with new movement

Sir Andy Street and Baroness Ruth Davidson believe they can win back voters who have snubbed the Conservatives.

www.bbc.co.uk

Unfortunately, those at the top of the Tory party seem to think that the only way to combat the far-right Reform party is to go as far to the right themselves as they possibly can. I suspect anyone suggesting more moderate, centre-right policies will simply be ignored.

Unless all the Tory right wingers nip off to Reform of course!

 

[holdsteady]

I’d personally be delighted if the tories went more central. Stopped the immigration claptrap and started having policy and ideas to challenge the Labour government to put the country first. A decent government needs a healthy and strong opposition to keep it in check.

So you want a right wing party that is in line with your left wing views?

 

[lodeyellow]

Unfortunately, those at the top of the Tory party seem to think that the only way to combat the far-right Reform party is to go as far to the right themselves as they possibly can. I suspect anyone suggesting more moderate, centre-right policies will simply be ignored.

Unless all the Tory right wingers nip off to Reform of course!

In the short term you’re most probably correct, unfortunately. But in the longer term, when it’s clear what damage right-wing, populist politics has done to the country (and it’s likely to be a very painful wake-up call indeed), I’m hopeful that centrists such as these Tories will gain considerable ground.

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

So you want a right wing party that is in line with your left wing views?

No I want a party that doesn’t bang about 1 issue all the time and act as though that is the only woe and fixing this will solve the everything including potholes in the street.

I’d like to see a right wing party that actually has opposing well thought through, executable, costed policies that aren’t based on negative, hateful politics.

I’ll happily discuss taxes, spending, European membership, education healthcare, defence, and international policy, as well as immigration

 

[holdsteady]

No I want a party that doesn’t bang about 1 issue all the time and act as though that is the only woe and fixing this will solve the everything including potholes in the street.

I’d like to see a right wing party that actually has opposing well thought through, executable, costed policies that aren’t based on negative, hateful politics.

I’ll happily discuss taxes, spending, European membership, education healthcare, defence, and international policy, as well as immigration

You are never going to vote for them though are you? So what you want is irrelevant.

 

[Sutton Yellow]

You are never going to vote for them though are you? So what you want is irrelevant.

It isn't irrelevant though.

Our parliamentary democracy, containing an official opposition, requires an effective party of opposition which reflects a breadth of issues. People in this country aren't simply preoccupied with one issue at a time. No matter what certain newspaper proprietors say, or algorithms would have you believe.

And the reason the Conservatives have been so successful in our democracy is because they have been a broad enough coalition to reflect a range of opinion and effective at exploiting the first past the post system without opposition to the right of them (historically).

So, even if you aren't going to lend your vote to a specific party, there is still a virtue in having parties which reflect the broader spectrum of opinion and which can operate effectively in our parliamentary democracy, holding a government, including the current very unsatisfactory one, to account.

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

Despite what you may think I’m no dyed in the wool lefty.

I want proper adult politics and if I saw a right leaning candidate who had a sensible manifesto I would vote for it.

 

[Essexyellows]

Made me chuckle..................

 

[Burglar Bill]

Obviously once you've had a chuckle at the name, this.

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

New welsh leader of reform announced.
This may well surprise you all but he’s a failed London Tory councillor…..

 

[Marked Ox]

New welsh leader of reform announced.
This may well surprise you all but he’s a failed London Tory councillor…..

The rebranding exercise continues.