National Politics 🟣 Reform UK

Would you vote for Reform under Nigel Farage?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 20.1%

  • Maybe/Undecided

    Votes: 17 9.2%

  • No

    Votes: 130 70.7%
  • Total voters
    184
  • Poll closed .
Londox said:
Thank god there are true patriots like Keir Starmer and David Paulden out there.

What a load of paranoid drivel. The right wing equivalent of that post would be hounded.

If only we were all as intelligent as you Burglar Bill
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Which part of this is untrue? The 'party' is being filled with people who let 'illegal' immigration soar in the first place, and led by a guy who spends most of his time away from his constituency and Westminster who does anything for money and cosies up to Russia and anyone with deep enough pockets, trying to woo anyone who is either too thick or too lazy to have made enough of their life that they would see desperate people crossing the Channel as a threat to their way of life and believe the dogwhistling.
 
When people eventually realise that it's not migrants that are ruining their lives, but been eaten up by their own anger and misery that is stoked up billionaires looking to control the masses and monetise hatred.


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Burglar Bill said:
Which part of this is untrue? The 'party' is being filled with people who let 'illegal' immigration soar in the first place, and led by a guy who spends most of his time away from his constituency and Westminster who does anything for money and cosies up to Russia and anyone with deep enough pockets, trying to woo anyone who is either too thick or too lazy to have made enough of their life that they would see desperate people crossing the Channel as a threat to their way of life and believe the dogwhistling.
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Fascinating how you're willing to call your own countrymen "thick" and "lazy" whilst sympathising with "desperate" people in Northern France.
Just classic classism.
So if I think illegal immigration should be zero and legal immigration should be lowered who should I be voting for?
Try and create an answer which isn't just calling people who disagree with you insults
 
Londox said:
Fascinating how you're willing to call your own countrymen "thick" and "lazy" whilst sympathising with "desperate" people in Northern France.
Just classic classism.
So if I think illegal immigration should be zero and legal immigration should be lowered who should I be voting for?
Try and create an answer which isn't just calling people who disagree with you insults
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Why fascinating? I'm not as fixated with where somebody is from as you seem to be. We're not a particularly hardworking country and we voted for Brexit based on false rage against 'the establishment' (ie. a load of lies cooked up by rich people with financial interests against UK prosperity to con others into thinking were other dark forces - ie people doing a little bit better than themselves - at play that were stopping them from being successful themselves).

Farage wakes up every morning laughing his head off at the new boundaries he can stretch people to. His version of what Brexit meant changed every five minutes after the referendum to manipulate people further and further - you'll recall we went through about a dozen 'X-style agreements' because he just wants to see how far he can push it to drive his hedge fund.

This is a guy who champions free speech but makes remarks about the BBC and The Guardian whenever they ask him questions at a press conference, and shuts down anyone who wants to challenge him. The guy who 'loves this country' but is never in it (although he finds the time to pocket some cash doing Cameos and telling people to invest in commodities he owns stock in). The guy bemoaning how broken the country is and how hard it is to make a living when he and his cronies have more money than they know what to do with. The guy who wants to take away your human rights while his followers nod along like it's a great idea. The guy whose newest recruits were telling the world how racist and defunct his policies were five minutes ago. Is it classism to think these people are a bit dim?

I'm not sat here pretending this government is covering itself in glory, but don't be swayed by a complete chancer just because he's admittedly a very good orator and can do competent media appearances.

I wouldn't be asking "who should I vote for?", I'd be asking if Reform could/would sort out immigration, to level they say/would be of satisfaction to you, and more to the point, is it really the biggest problem here.
 
Burglar Bill said:
Why fascinating? I'm not as fixated with where somebody is from as you seem to be. We're not a particularly hardworking country and we voted for Brexit based on false rage against 'the establishment' (ie. a load of lies cooked up by rich people with financial interests against UK prosperity to con others into thinking were other dark forces - ie people doing a little bit better than themselves - at play that were stopping them from being successful themselves).

Farage wakes up every morning laughing his head off at the new boundaries he can stretch people to. His version of what Brexit meant changed every five minutes after the referendum to manipulate people further and further - you'll recall we went through about a dozen 'X-style agreements' because he just wants to see how far he can push it to drive his hedge fund.

This is a guy who champions free speech but makes remarks about the BBC and The Guardian whenever they ask him questions at a press conference, and shuts down anyone who wants to challenge him. The guy who 'loves this country' but is never in it (although he finds the time to pocket some cash doing Cameos and telling people to invest in commodities he owns stock in). The guy bemoaning how broken the country is and how hard it is to make a living when he and his cronies have more money than they know what to do with. The guy who wants to take away your human rights while his followers nod along like it's a great idea. The guy whose newest recruits were telling the world how racist and defunct his policies were five minutes ago. Is it classism to think these people are a bit dim?

I'm not sat here pretending this government is covering itself in glory, but don't be swayed by a complete chancer just because he's admittedly a very good orator and can do competent media appearances.

I wouldn't be asking "who should I vote for?", I'd be asking if Reform could/would sort out immigration, to level they say/would be of satisfaction to you, and more to the point, is it really the biggest problem here.
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The trouble is the people who are not particularly hard working in this country appear to be the children of recent immigrants going by the unemployment rates.
 
Londox said:
It's the left who are incapable of doing that on many occasions.
The Union Flag flying in the UK either offends or people pretend to find offensive.
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Pull the other one🤣

NOBODY is offended by the flag.
Plenty of people think flying it from lamp posts makes us look a bit Temu as a nation and has little to do with Pride.

If it was to do with Pride, then people would fly it properly from a flagpole and respect it by raising it every morning and lowering every night.

As it is, it flies on many, many civic and public buildings and I am very happy for it to be there.

Flying it from lamposts is naff and disrespectful to the flag in equal measure (especially when it is flown upside down with made in China written on it🤣).
 
Sheik Djibouti said:
Pull the other one🤣

NOBODY is offended by the flag.
Plenty of people think flying it from lamp posts makes us look a bit Temu as a nation and has little to do with Pride.

If it was to do with Pride, then people would fly it properly from a flagpole and respect it by raising it every morning and lowering every night.

As it is, it flies on many, many civic and public buildings and I am very happy for it to be there.

Flying it from lamposts is naff and disrespectful to the flag in equal measure (especially when it is flown upside down with made in China written on it🤣).
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They also all look half-mast.
 
Sheik Djibouti said:
Pull the other one🤣

NOBODY is offended by the flag.
Plenty of people think flying it from lamp posts makes us look a bit Temu as a nation and has little to do with Pride.

If it was to do with Pride, then people would fly it properly from a flagpole and respect it by raising it every morning and lowering every night.

As it is, it flies on many, many civic and public buildings and I am very happy for it to be there.

Flying it from lamposts is naff and disrespectful to the flag in equal measure (especially when it is flown upside down with made in China written on it🤣).
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Also surprises me how the blokes going round in Oxfordshire seem to be eternally online to defend themselves or claiming to be out putting them up. You would have thought they would be doing something more productive to society...like work... or meeting their probation officers.

Its a group of disenfranchised, largely uneducated individuals caught up by the populist Reform narrative creating enemies that aren't there.
 
Londox said:
It's the left who are incapable of doing that on many occasions.
The Union Flag flying in the UK either offends or people pretend to find offensive.
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This is just one of those myths out there to try and drive a wedge between the working classes to try and con people towards the far-right. Most (and by that I would say over 90%) of left-wingers ARE proud to be British and no have no issue with the flag.

Where they differ from the nationalists, is that they don't feel that gratuitous flag waving is the highest of our priorities. There are more important things to worry about.

Lee Anderson's constituency decided to spend £75K erecting a load of Union flags. Yes, he assured us that it was paid for privately, rather than out of council-tax payers money, but that's not the point. That money could quite easily be used to make the country better by filling in pot-holes, helping out foodbanks, create homeless shelters, etc. But instead he would prefer to make Ashfield look like 1938 Nuremburg.

I also remember Farage saying kids should sing the National Anthem every morning. Why? There is only so many hours in the day, and over the year that equates to 15 hours that could be better spent elsewhere learning things that are more valuable in later life.

Waving a flag doesn't make me proud to be British. Having a Prime Minister though who says he would fully support Denmark over Greenland, rather than that creosoted Imperialist manbaby from America does make me proud to be British.
 
Discoland said:
Its a group of disenfranchised, largely uneducated individuals caught up by the populist Reform narrative creating enemies that aren't there.
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I enjoy seeing the Union Flag flying, the idea they're "uneducated" is a stereotype that exists in your head only.

There is a lot of condescension on this forum towards white working class people.
 
Londox said:
I enjoy seeing the Union Flag flying, the idea they're "uneducated" is a stereotype that exists in your head only.

There is a lot of condescension on this forum towards white working class people.
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Have you watch that BBC documentary yet to see how right wing governments really treat white working class people? Thought not.

Miners’ Strike: A Frontline Story: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001wm1x via @bbciplayer
 
Londox said:
Last time I checked it wasn't the 1980's anymore.

maybe check this video out to understand the modern world.
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But you post an interview linking to 1929.

Seen it. What Carr doesn't explain is the reason for the financial crashes in 1929 and 2008/9. 🤔
 
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Londox said:
Last time I checked it wasn't the 1980's anymore.

maybe check this video out to understand the modern world.
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Do you still believe that those pretending to put a metaphorical arm around the shoulder of the "white working classes" are honestly doing so because they have their best interests at heart?

And to you think they are doing so to the exclusion of anyone else they might want to support them?

Your value is in your vote, nothing else and once they get what they want, they will tell you that all those things they promised are actually too difficult to deliver
...largely because the world is not as simple as Farage and his ilk want you to believe.
 
Leysboy said:
Too many Left wing Labour loonies on here.

Not worth engaging with, if you don’t agree with there views and opinions, and upset them with a different view, your are a Right Wing racist, Fascist, Xenophobic horrible person.
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I don't think it's racist, fascist or xenophobic to be concerned about border security. I just think it's deluded to believe Reform UK is the answer behind a pretty thin veil of wanting to use power to deregulate and increase wealth for themselves at the expense of people they claim to be helping. That, and the monumentally futile activity of painting roundabouts and covering lampposts in flags - in the name of 'patriotism'. Real patriotism is getting off your backsides to improve lives, paying fair taxes and trying to make a positive difference.
 
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Suella has apparently joined now. How many more failed Tories will they take? Are Reform now officially the "establishment"?
 
I do not understand the politics of this - Reform are built from the failures of the past 15 years and pointing the finger and yet are accepting into the party the people at the heart of that failure……
 
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Reform are a Temu version of Trump's Board of Peace! A collection of bad guys not worthy of the top table of Evil but still wanting to give it a go.

I've always said that Reform may unite the right and disenfranchised, but that's not enough to win a general election. To do that they need to bring in more moderate Tories and some in the political centre. Every recruit seems to take them further away from being a party that people take seriously.
 
So not only have Reform now welcomed a politician who's been sacked God knows how many times for being a walking, talking risk to national security, they've also gone and taken the former Home Secretary who is telling us our immigration system is broken. Christ alive.

The political equivalent to Mark Harris asking for a transfer because we don't score enough goals.
 
People on here acting like Starmer isn't one of the most unpopular PMs in British history.

Nigel's coming to get you.
 
Londox said:
People on here acting like Starmer isn't one of the most unpopular PMs in British history.

Nigel's coming to get you.
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A PM who had to block someone standing for election in a by election because his position is so insecure, which must be a first for any sitting PM?
 
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