Sarge
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Is it just me? ..... I do get a tad miffed, vexed and peeved when what is blatantly a licensed restaurant is referred to as a pub. 'Gastropubs', basically upmarket, invariably overpriced 'cafes' with a bar that offers a few alcoholic beverages seem to be described as pubs usually by lazy local journos. To me a pub... public house... should have their emphasis on the variety of beverages on offer, as opposed to concentrating on attaining various awards from poncey foodie organisations. Alehouses and micro breweries ( depending on location in England) do qualify as being referred to as a pub. Hostelries that offer a range of different beverages likewise, but an establishment that has emphasis on a varied cuisine and concentrating on the gastronomic experience, invariably relegating wet bar variety to the bare minimum, to me are not pubs, they, ( broadly similar to the majority of Indian restaurants) they are upmarket cafe's that offer a limited choice of alcoholic drinks to accompany food!
Granted to survive public houses (especially since the smoking ban was imposed, followed by countless pubs closing), have had to in many cases take appropriate action. I don't have any issues with what was once a pub transforming into a restaurant with a bar. What is my issue is eateries, where food (not drink ) is what is promoted heavily by the licensee, shouldn't appear in PUB guides, or for that matter be referred to as a pub.
Pus are for drinking, adult conversation and being able to have a laugh with your mates, not much of which is welcomed in posho eateries! don't disturb or upset diners!.... licenced cafes claiming to be pubs, are rarely accommodating to those who prefer the old-fashioned public house experience, I do wish that eateries with a licensed bar would stop from calling themselves pubs! And for that matter, local newspaper reporters get educated enough to work out the difference between a Public House and a licenced Resturant
After 100 years an old Oxford pub is set to reopen says today's Oxford Mail, reporting that was once the Plough on Cornmarket in town, where Austin Reed was for many years, yet the incoming leaseholder and licensee in the feature talks about it being a coffee house ( like Oxford needs another !), and also talking about the gastronomic delights that will be offered. Doesn't say much about the drink though! ... I MO its another restaurant with a licence to sell alcohol set to open, NOT a pub!
https://www.Oxfordm**l.co.uk/news/1...et-pub-returning-after-100-years/?ref=mr&lp=1
Granted to survive public houses (especially since the smoking ban was imposed, followed by countless pubs closing), have had to in many cases take appropriate action. I don't have any issues with what was once a pub transforming into a restaurant with a bar. What is my issue is eateries, where food (not drink ) is what is promoted heavily by the licensee, shouldn't appear in PUB guides, or for that matter be referred to as a pub.
Pus are for drinking, adult conversation and being able to have a laugh with your mates, not much of which is welcomed in posho eateries! don't disturb or upset diners!.... licenced cafes claiming to be pubs, are rarely accommodating to those who prefer the old-fashioned public house experience, I do wish that eateries with a licensed bar would stop from calling themselves pubs! And for that matter, local newspaper reporters get educated enough to work out the difference between a Public House and a licenced Resturant
After 100 years an old Oxford pub is set to reopen says today's Oxford Mail, reporting that was once the Plough on Cornmarket in town, where Austin Reed was for many years, yet the incoming leaseholder and licensee in the feature talks about it being a coffee house ( like Oxford needs another !), and also talking about the gastronomic delights that will be offered. Doesn't say much about the drink though! ... I MO its another restaurant with a licence to sell alcohol set to open, NOT a pub!
https://www.Oxfordm**l.co.uk/news/1...et-pub-returning-after-100-years/?ref=mr&lp=1
