General Post Rowett - who next?

[Northstandboy]

 

[Carpy]

Let's face it, we have no idea what list the club have, who they've spoken to or interviewed, or who's likely to get the job.

You might not

 

[Shosho]

Certainly comes across that the recruitment team didn’t have a working list, ready to go…which would be pretty standard practice across all areas of the playing squad for a sensible championship team.

Alternatively, they do have a list but have been told there’s no budget so therefore young, out of work managers with experience in the league who are obtainable is a small pool and thus so underwhelming.

I assume Thohir has been recruiting for the Indonesian international team - the dub would suggest he want a look/say in it.

Any of the above is a mess. By calling them out publicly, Rowett has forced the hand of those above him whilst also possibly demonstrating what he was up against.

Fwiw, I’m not sure how much blame Waldron can take. It would appear is job is made pretty tough by Williams etc

 

[isibuko]

Certainly comes across that the recruitment team didn’t have a working list, ready to go…which would be pretty standard practice across all areas of the playing squad for a sensible championship team.

Seems like there is absolutely no basis to this tbh. This thread is chock full of us making massive assumptions and then getting really angry at the club about it. Absolutely nuts.

 

[Barrywedge]

Could be Ruben Amorin or Jurgen Klopp or Sam Allardyce who knows!

 

[Swaby39]

There were 9 days between Manning leaving and Des coming in. There were 5 days between Des leaving and Rowett coming in. I know you like to be negative but lets not make stuff up. We are on day 13 but in that time have had Christmas and New Year which does complicate matters some what with people being available etc.

I happen to agree with you but let’s not pretend football goes to ground over Christmas, it’s probably the busiest period of the year and if you’re a manager out there hoping to get yourself a job, I don’t think it’s wise to tell a club to go away until the new year. You’d know that this is a time clubs review and managers move, so be ready.

I think you’re right to cut them some slack, but you’ve gone too far by giving them a total cop-out.

I’m going to predict that this is a repeat of the summer where Waldron and Mitchell are going to end up chinning incompetence from above. Probably caught unawares by being told any prep they’d done is irrelevant as they need to replace Rowett for nothing. They probably ought to have freebies on that list for that scenario, but if we’re also saying they can’t have a big wage then we’re likely scrapping that list as well, and we’re doing this on the hop.

 

[Scotchegg]

Erick who’s probably sat there working out who is the least worst option.

Out of interest, why do you think that thr msn who has spent millions on the club and been the driving force for the new stadium, would be looking at the least worse option for the next manager?

Are we still sticking with the idea that the club are happy with relegation?

 

[Shosho]

Seems like there is absolutely no basis to this tbh. This thread is chock full of us making massive assumptions and then getting really angry at the club about it. Absolutely nuts.

I’m sure there a logical reason why we are taking as long as we are to appoint an out of work manager!

 

[Bretch Hill]

Let's face it, we have no idea what list the club have, who they've spoken to or interviewed, or who's likely to get the job.

Or if there’s even a list

 

[TheDukeOfBanburyshire]

Sounds like Erick is the man making the decision from listening to today's The Dub..

Which is a worrying prospect.

 

[TheDukeOfBanburyshire]

The board had no intention of sacking Rowett but like Man United with Amorin and Chelsea with Maresca they had no choice once the coach called out a few staff higher up the pyramid.

Please don't compare our club to Chelsea and Manchester United. Two absolute basket case clubs that were nothing like...

 

[Steve Gilbert]

I happen to agree with you but let’s not pretend football goes to ground over Christmas, it’s probably the busiest period of the year and if you’re a manager out there hoping to get yourself a job, I don’t think it’s wise to tell a club to go away until the new year. You’d know that this is a time clubs review and managers move, so be ready.

I think you’re right to cut them some slack, but you’ve gone too far by giving them a total cop-out.

I’m going to predict that this is a repeat of the summer where Waldron and Mitchell are going to end up chinning incompetence from above. Probably caught unawares by being told any prep they’d done is irrelevant as they need to replace Rowett for nothing. They probably ought to have freebies on that list for that scenario, but if we’re also saying they can’t have a big wage then we’re likely scrapping that list as well, and we’re doing this on the hop.

No, football doesn't go to ground over Christmas but it is a lot trickier to arrange things at short notice. An interview process would mean that they would need Grant, Tim and Ed all to be free at the same time as well as the people they are interviewing. They would then need to be in dialog with the board who are the other side of the world. I wouldn't say it is giving them a total cop-out, it is rather just understanding that the time of year doesn't help the process. If the new manager is in place by Friday (at the very latest) then that is 17 days from Rowett leaving which given all I've said, isn't so bad.

It was only last week we were told that the club were waiting until after the festive fixtures to approach a club for permission to speak to the guy we wanted, imagine if that was true, we would be waiting even longer.

 

[38yearsofpain]

Let's face it, we have no idea what list the club have, who they've spoken to or interviewed, or who's likely to get the job.

But Tiger does!!

 

[Marked Ox]

All of which leaves me a bit disappointed that I still haven't had a definitive yes or no from the club following my application (I once took my U12 team from bottom of the table at Christmas to almost half way up the table by the end of the season. What more could they be looking for?)

If you haven't won the Champions League 5 years in a row after taking over the team when they were in the French 4 tier on Football Manager then they aren't going to even look at your application.

 

[Stranger]

If you haven't won the Champions League 5 years in a row after taking over the team when they were in the French 4 tier on Football Manager then they aren't going to even look at your application.

Buggrit

 

[werthersoriginal]

I’m sure there a logical reason why we are taking as long as we are to appoint an out of work manager!

We're interested in a cerebral Bosnian but he's snowed in at a mountain pass near Zagreb, apparently.

 

[SteMerritt]

would be looking at the least worse option for the next manager?

I hope we do get the least worst option to be honest...

 

[jaybeachjump]

The board had no intention of sacking Rowett but like Man United with Amorin and Chelsea with Maresca they had no choice once the coach called out a few staff higher up the pyramid.

No I don't agree. You do what's best for the club, the principal asset. Not what's best for your ego.

 

[BicesterU]

Which is exactly my argument, Rowett was underperforming, if the club didn't have a list of potential candidates up to date and ready to go then more fool them.

Given what is now widely accepted to have happened with our transfer budget during the summer, is it out of the question that we *did* have a list of potential managerial successors, but that not being willing to pay a release clause came as a surprise?

 

[Swaby39]

No I don't agree. You do what's best for the club, the principal asset. Not what's best for your ego.

This isn’t exclusive to football. When any business has someone in a position of such power pulling against them and can’t be resolved, it’s pretty terminal.

The relationship with Rowett died in the summer. Trust immediately gone and Rowett gradually turned the screw on them with each setback. We can’t say it wasn’t given a fair crack after that and given the timing, I think sacking him was the last thing they wanted to do.

Perhaps should’ve thought about that before shitting on him from a great height.

 

[AssHead]

The club will announce Will Still as our new manager at 9am tomorrow. My mate at the Mail just got a tip-off.

 

[Swaby39]

The club will announce Will Still as our new manager at 9am tomorrow. My mate at the Mail just got a tip-off.

Interesting. Hello cat, meet pigeons.

 

[JerryL]

We're interested in a cerebral Bosnian but he's snowed in at a mountain pass near Zagreb, apparently.

oh ive heard of cerebral bosnian, isnt he that guy that allowed players to move on a free when their contracts ran out?

 

[Under The Cuckoo Lane]

Why, because he played for us over 30 years ago? His last meaningful spell as a manager was at Ipswich and ended in the sack in April 2009, and he then had six months at QPR which ended with 'mutual consent' in December 2009.

I'm not suggesting we should just wondered what anyone's oppinion might be. He's doing great now albeit at lower level.

 

[yellowbow]

The club will announce Will Still as our new manager at 9am tomorrow. My mate at the Mail just got a tip-off.

I’d whack a few quid on then!

 

[BicesterU]

Certainly comes across that the recruitment team didn’t have a working list, ready to go…which would be pretty standard practice across all areas of the playing squad for a sensible championship team.

Alternatively, they do have a list but have been told there’s no budget so therefore young, out of work managers with experience in the league who are obtainable is a small pool and thus so underwhelming.

I assume Thohir has been recruiting for the Indonesian international team - the dub would suggest he want a look/say in it.

Any of the above is a mess. By calling them out publicly, Rowett has forced the hand of those above him whilst also possibly demonstrating what he was up against.

Fwiw, I’m not sure how much blame Waldron can take. It would appear is job is made pretty tough by Williams etc

That'll teach me to read all the way to the end of the thread before posting.

I do also recall Jerome talking about Rowett appearing to take the chance to get some details on the record before leaving during his 'sack me/back me' interview.

A parting gift, perhaps, for those Traitors fans on the forum.

 

[Jster]

making massive assumptions and then getting really angry at the club about it.

Could pretty much be a new banner for the site, this.

 

[carefreeoufc]

Out of interest, why do you think that thr msn who has spent millions on the club and been the driving force for the new stadium, would be looking at the least worse option for the next manager?

Are we still sticking with the idea that the club are happy with relegation?

Purely because of the main names we’ve been linked with. Bloomfield, Manning (ok he’s ruled himself out), Beale and Sheehan.

Obviously, the rumour may well be working overdrive and we end up with some of the more exciting (currently employed) managers that have been mentioned in this thread, but as it stands, the shortlist appears to be varying degrees of Rowett, mostly with less success.

I’ve been proven wrong before and I’ll very happily be proven wrong again in terms of who is announced. Personally, if we end up with one of the names above, I’d have rather we kept Rowett and backed him in Jan because exciting/dynamic managers with a desire to play “brand Oxford” they are not.

 

[Scotchegg]

Purely because of the main names we’ve been linked with. Bloomfield, Manning (ok he’s ruled himself out), Beale and Sheehan.

Obviously, the rumour may well be working overdrive and we end up with some of the more exciting (currently employed) managers that have been mentioned in this thread, but as it stands, the shortlist appears to be varying degrees of Rowett, mostly with less success.

I’ve been proven wrong before and I’ll very happily be proven wrong again in terms of who is announced. Personally, if we end up with one of the names above, I’d have rather we kept Rowett and backed him in Jan because exciting/dynamic managers with a desire to play “brand Oxford” they are not.

Rowett had given up. Keeping him was not an option and he had to go, and could have arguably gone a game or two sooner.

As for his replacement, I don't think that someone is more exciting simply because they're in work. That would make Paddy McCathy a better prospect than Michael Carrick! And I can't see how Skubala or Askou offer any greater guarantees than Bloomfield, Beale or Sheehan.

 

[OX14]

The club will announce Will Still as our new manager at 9am tomorrow. My mate at the Mail just got a tip-off.

 

[carefreeoufc]

Rowett had given up. Keeping him was not an option and he had to go, and could have arguably gone a game or two sooner.

As for his replacement, I don't think that someone is more exciting simply because they're in work. That would make Paddy McCathy a better prospect than Michael Carrick! And I can't see how Skubala or Askou offer any greater guarantees than Bloomfield, Beale or Sheehan.

Agree on him having given up and he needed to go. Also agree that someone in employment doesn’t necessarily mean better/a more exciting prospect. I’m just completely unconvinced by Bloomfield, Beale and Sheehan (who may not even be the one we appoint), which is why I referred to Erick as picking the least worse option.

I consider them all to be poor options. He may not and many on this forum may not. They’re as inspiring as Gary Waddock (bless him) to me.