General Post Rowett - who next?

[Northstandboy]

 

[Steve Gilbert]

I’d look at the money man rather than the recruitment team personally. We haven’t spent a dime on transfer fees since Spencer and now it looks like we won’t be spending a fee on a new Head Coach. All eyes on whether we are willing to spend some money in January. If not, what’s going on?

It must be an inconvenience that we have a multi million pound stadium to build which will secure our further for the club that has to be paid for…

 

[tatabanya]

It must be an inconvenience that we have a multi million pound stadium to build which will secure our further for the club that has to be paid for…

The club has to pay for by attracting outside investment, which will be easier to do if we’re in the Championship?

 

[tatabanya]

You think loan players come free?

No. But they’re mostly cheaper and often don’t come with a loan fee.

 

[Billyox]

If the stadium development work counts towards the losses that are assessed for FFP, then I imagine we can’t spend much at all and will have to get two or three players out.

Stadium development work is generally excluded from the losses that count toward Financial Fair Play (FFP) limits. This is a deliberate policy to encourage clubs to invest in long-term infrastructure and community assets rather than just "buying success" through player transfers and wages.

When Oxford United submits its accounts for FFP/PSR assessment, the league allows them to "add back" specific types of spending. This means if the club reports a £20 million loss, but £10 million of that was spent on stadium planning, the "adjusted" loss for FFP purposes would only be £10 million.

 

[TheDukeOfBanburyshire]

Stadium development work is generally excluded from the losses that count toward Financial Fair Play (FFP) limits. This is a deliberate policy to encourage clubs to invest in long-term infrastructure and community assets rather than just "buying success" through player transfers and wages.

When Oxford United submits its accounts for FFP/PSR assessment, the league allows them to "add back" specific types of spending. This means if the club reports a £20 million loss, but £10 million of that was spent on stadium planning, the "adjusted" loss for FFP purposes would only be £10 million.

Billy, have you told Tim Williams this? It might well be the first he's heard of it.

 

[Shaun Rice]

It must be an inconvenience that we have a multi million pound stadium to build which will secure our further for the club that has to be paid for…

Totally agree. I don’t think we have anywhere near enough backing for the Championship. The only thing that will save us is some one or some people who are willing to put big money in. Like Wrexham and even then it’s not a guarantee. Or a recruitment team who are finding absolute gems time after time. Neither seem likely.

 

[Morris Oxford]

I’d look at the money man rather than the recruitment team personally. We haven’t spent a dime on transfer fees since Spencer and now it looks like we won’t be spending a fee on a new Head Coach. All eyes on whether we are willing to spend some money in January. If not, what’s going on?

Something odd happened in the summer.

As I’ve said before there’s no way Rowett would’ve approved a huge part of our squad building budget on a right back if he thought there wouldn’t then be other funds available to bolster other areas in particular the midfield. Absolutely no way, I just can’t believe or accept that.

In fact the rumours around the sudden reassessment of funding in the summer after Brodie’s transfer was briefly raised by a supporter, and answered by Nathan on ‘wasn’t at the game’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002p7qf approximately 25 mins into the programme.

Rough transcript:

Caller; I want to call out the owners, they cut the budget midway through the summer.

Nathan; Well that was a rumour that was doing the rounds and was addressed at the fans forum by Tim Williams and Grant Ferguson who say that was not the case.


So if we believe TW and GF are being totally honest with supporters then the fault and blame lies at the door of recruitment when allocation of funding went so badly wrong in the summer.

Or TW and GF are not being totally honest with supporters…..

 

[Big mac]

Sheehan close according to sky sports

 

[TheDukeOfBanburyshire]

Something odd happened in the summer.

As I’ve said before there’s no way Rowett would’ve approved a huge part of our squad building budget on a right back if he thought there wouldn’t then be other funds available to bolster other areas in particular the midfield. Absolutely no way, I just can’t believe or accept that.

In fact the rumours around the sudden reassessment of funding in the summer after Brodie’s transfer was briefly raised by a supporter, and answered by Nathan on ‘wasn’t at the game’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002p7qf approximately 25 mins into the programme.

Rough transcript:

Caller; I want to call out the owners, they cut the budget midway through the summer.

Nathan; Well that was a rumour that was doing the rounds and was addressed at the fans forum by Tim Williams and Grant Ferguson who say that was not the case.


So if we believe TW and GF are being totally honest with supporters then the fault and blame lies at the door of recruitment when allocation of funding went so badly wrong in the summer.

Or TW and GF are not being totally honest with supporters…..

Yeah I noticed that. Nathan saying that TW and GF had "addressed" the issue in the fan's forum was rather wide of the mark.

What he should have said was that they treated the person asking the question with distain and provided no explanation whatsoever.

 

[BrockBuster]

Sheehan close according to sky sports

If it is, interesting (but quite long) piece from a Swansea fan from October summing up his approach last season and an indication of what went wrong this:

 

[BicesterU]

Something odd happened in the summer.

As I’ve said before there’s no way Rowett would’ve approved a huge part of our squad building budget on a right back if he thought there wouldn’t then be other funds available to bolster other areas in particular the midfield. Absolutely no way, I just can’t believe or accept that.

In fact the rumours around the sudden reassessment of funding in the summer after Brodie’s transfer was briefly raised by a supporter, and answered by Nathan on ‘wasn’t at the game’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002p7qf approximately 25 mins into the programme.

Rough transcript:

Caller; I want to call out the owners, they cut the budget midway through the summer.

Nathan; Well that was a rumour that was doing the rounds and was addressed at the fans forum by Tim Williams and Grant Ferguson who say that was not the case.


So if we believe TW and GF are being totally honest with supporters then the fault and blame lies at the door of recruitment when allocation of funding went so badly wrong in the summer.

Or TW and GF are not being totally honest with supporters…..

Or Nathan/RadOx are trying to call Grant and Tim liars to avoid burning bridges.

He says *they said* that's not the case, not that it's not the case.

 

[battman]

I think Sheehan would be an interesting selection, and you'd hope he'd recapture the form that saw him pick up five wins on the bounce last season. If we look to be robust in defence, but also aggressively press and counter when the chance is on, then that could be a winning formula for both the manager, the club and the players we have in the building (coupled with a few additions of course).

It looks like Swansea went too defensive this season and whilst they didn't concede many (15 in the opening 14 games, before a 4-1 loss to Ipswich sealed his fate in game 15) they only scored a goal a game on average.

As Sheehan's a new manager there's more potential for him to learn from this and grow as a head coach, whereas with an experienced Rowett-type they're less likely to budge from what's worked for them in the past.

 

[Yemi-God]

If it is Sheehan, it could be another fantastic appointment by the current senior management team and Ed. Feeling very positive about this.

 

[OX14]

I think Sheehan would be an interesting selection, and you'd hope he'd recapture the form that saw him pick up five wins on the bounce last season. If we look to be robust in defence, but also aggressively press and counter when the chance is on, then that could be a winning formula for both the manager, the club and the players we have in the building (coupled with a few additions of course).

It looks like Swansea went too defensive this season and whilst they didn't concede many (15 in the opening 14 games, before a 4-1 loss to Ipswich sealed his fate in game 15) they only averaged a goal a game.

As Sheehan's a new manager there's more potential for him to learn from this and grow as a head coach, whereas with an experienced Rowett-type they're less likely to budge from what's worked for them in the past.

My only concern with Sheehan is like with Des he will come here and more than likely will not bring an assistant with him. In July when Sheehan took the Swansea job on a permanent basis they employed Darren O'Dea from Celtic to be assistant. When Sheehan was sacked by Swansea they didn't dismiss O'Dea and he remained in Interim charge until Matos took over.

 

[Osleroad]

The club has to pay for by attracting outside investment, which will be easier to do if we’re in the Championship?

Would have thought only in as much as a full stadium for such fixtures brings in extra revenue to draw down on loans.

 

[battman]

My only concern with Sheehan is like with Des he will come here and more than likely will not bring an assistant with him. In July when Sheehan took the Swansea job on a permanent basis they employed Darren O'Dea from Celtic to be assistant. When Sheehan was sacked by Swansea they didn't dismiss O'Dea and he remained in Interim charge until Matos took over.

Both O'Dea and Richard Stearman were let go when Matos came in, so it appears there are two assistant options that are immediately available

Swansea City appoint Vitor Matos as head coach | Swansea

Swansea City is delighted to confirm the appointment of Vitor Matos as the club’s new head coach.

www.swanseacity.com

 

[SSO]

It’s going to be Maresca
Championship experience and available

 

[OX14]

Both O'Dea and Richard Stearman were let go when Matos came in, so it appears there are two assistant options that are immediately available

Swansea City appoint Vitor Matos as head coach | Swansea

Swansea City is delighted to confirm the appointment of Vitor Matos as the club’s new head coach.

www.swanseacity.com

Yes they did but with Sheehan let go before them and they carrying in their roles taking interim charge I wonder if there is any ill feeling between them. Normally an assistant goes when the manager does.

 

[Morris Oxford]

If it is, interesting (but quite long) piece from a Swansea fan from October summing up his approach last season and an indication of what went wrong this:

Thanks for posting.

Quite a lot of talk on there about ‘the Swansea Way’ in the same way many supporters of OUFC often refer ‘to the Oxford United Way’ of playing.

I’m not sure there is a particular club ‘way’ of playing, just fans remember their historical most successful spells which almost inevitably will have the team playing decent, exciting and successful football.

I can see why the board might see Sheehan as one of the better currently available options within budget, whether he would be able to do a better job than Rowett with the current squad, who knows?

Big challenge whoever gets the job that’s for sure.

 

[battman]

Yes they did but with Sheehan let go before them and they carrying in their roles taking interim charge I wonder if there is any ill feeling between them. Normally an assistant goes when the manager does.

I wouldn't read too much into it, it's not uncommon for an assistant to be the caretaker for a couple of weeks whilst the new man is sought. And they'd be paying them severance anyway, so you might as well use them to train the first team when you don't have anyone else in the building

 

[Marked Ox]

I think Sheehan would be an interesting selection, and you'd hope he'd recapture the form that saw him pick up five wins on the bounce last season. If we look to be robust in defence, but also aggressively press and counter when the chance is on, then that could be a winning formula for both the manager, the club and the players we have in the building (coupled with a few additions of course).

It looks like Swansea went too defensive this season and whilst they didn't concede many (15 in the opening 14 games, before a 4-1 loss to Ipswich sealed his fate in game 15) they only scored a goal a game on average.

As Sheehan's a new manager there's more potential for him to learn from this and grow as a head coach, whereas with an experienced Rowett-type they're less likely to budge from what's worked for them in the past.

Agreed. That would be my positive approach to his appointment if it happens.

I'd be very worried if he hasn't looked at what went wrong.

 

[greatunclekip]

Sheehan close according to sky sports

I literally cannot believe this.

 

[Made-in-Jericho]

I literally cannot believe this.

Nothing would make you happy so no surprise there.

 

[n1]

Not a dead cert...

 

[OX14]

I literally cannot believe this.

Who do you think we should go for?

 

[Shosho]

Sounds like we will be looking for managers out of work.

 

[battman]

Who do you think we should go for?

Steve Cotterill?

 

[Peterdev]

I reckon Sheehan is a good choice for us. Didn’t have a bad record for Swansea. Certainly better than looking at the likes of John Terry

 

[Oxy]

I reckon Sheehan is a good choice for us. Didn’t have a bad record for Swansea. Certainly better than looking at the likes of John Terry

Think the reality is anyone that is out of work it’s way to find the pros and cons very quickly.

Sheehan for example, good points per game record.

Also, massively backed in the summer and took the team backwards.

Also with Sheehan I don’t think fans will like his style very much.

Better than some names mentioned I agree

 

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

Don't think its a done deal yet