Ox-Rails

[WuTang]

https://www.oufc.co.uk/news/2018/may/ox-rails/

"Oxford United are continuing to investigate the possibility of introducing the Ox-Rails: Supporting Safer Spectators concept at the Kassam Stadium. "

In short, and IMO, Oxford United will continue to add pressure to the government for the introduction of safe standing. This is a superb initiative and if completed will see us halfway to adding safe standing at the Kastad.

It would also allow the Ultras to hang banners down the stand and really improve the visual appearance of home games further. Maybe even lead from the front barrier in a traditional Ultras section, where everyone will be standing safely behind barriers (looking long term).

I've personally fallen over rows in celebration quite a few times at matches, I'm in full support of safe standing and this will only encourage the relevant authorities to grant OUFC a safe standing pilot.

 

[Fanatica]

Great for the fans. All the more reason for people to get themselves up, singing and involved.

 

[Concretebob]

Really hope this happens.

 

[Craig]

https://www.oufc.co.uk/news/2018/may/ox-rails/

"Oxford United are continuing to investigate the possibility of introducing the Ox-Rails: Supporting Safer Spectators concept at the Kassam Stadium. "

In short, and IMO, Oxford United will continue to add pressure to the government for the introduction of safe standing. This is a superb initiative and if completed will see us halfway to adding safe standing at the Kastad.

It would also allow the Ultras to hang banners down the stand and really improve the visual appearance of home games further. Maybe even lead from the front barrier in a traditional Ultras section, where everyone will be standing safely behind barriers (looking long term).

I've personally fallen over rows in celebration quite a few times at matches, I'm in full support of safe standing and this will only encourage the relevant authorities to grant OUFC a safe standing pilot.

Do you have any examples of this please? I can just about use my feeble imagination, but if you know of any other clubs that do something similar, I'd be interested to see them. Cheers.

Great news, I agree. Even though I sit as I attend games with my old man, I'd definitely look to stand at games he doesn't attend.

For me it's not about sitting vs standing and which is safer etc. It's about whether standing is safe enough and giving people the choice to choose what they want to do, which I believe it is. Besides, thousands stand at top flight rugby games in this country. Drink alcohol, too. Another example of football fans being treated as 'less than' by others.

 

[Concretebob]

Do you have any examples of this please? I can just about use my feeble imagination, but if you know of any other clubs that do something similar, I'd be interested to see them. Cheers.

Great news, I agree. Even though I sit as I attend games with my old man, I'd definitely look to stand at games he doesn't attend.

For me it's not about sitting vs standing and which is safer etc. It's about whether standing is safe enough and giving people the choice to choose what they want to do, which I believe it is. Besides, thousands stand at top flight rugby games in this country. Drink alcohol, too. Another example of football fans being treated as 'less than' by others.

Football fans are seen as scum, let's be honest.

 

[WuTang]

Do you have any examples of this please? I can just about use my feeble imagination, but if you know of any other clubs that do something similar, I'd be interested to see them. Cheers.

Great news, I agree. Even though I sit as I attend games with my old man, I'd definitely look to stand at games he doesn't attend.

For me it's not about sitting vs standing and which is safer etc. It's about whether standing is safe enough and giving people the choice to choose what they want to do, which I believe it is. Besides, thousands stand at top flight rugby games in this country. Drink alcohol, too. Another example of football fans being treated as 'less than' by others.

You can see it in some of the pictures of Celtics, but it's no different to taping your banner onto other hand rails and barriers when you travel away from home.

 

[Oslernorth]

Would the ground need to be taken into some sort of ownership before we are allowed to start altering the seating, or build the 4th stand to accommodate Safe Standing?

 

[MarkG]

This might be a silly question, but are we required to have an all seater stadium, as we were in the Championship / equivalent for the required number of years after the rules changed when at the Manor, even though when we moved to the Kassam we were below that level? please excuse errors!

 

[DreamInYellow]

I'm ot entirely sure if I'm paraphrasing the above post or not, but....

If we got promoted to the Championship next season, as the law stands today, would we have to remove the safe standing?

Im all for it, but having it for one season seems wasteful, if indeed that is the case.

 

[Fanatica]

I'm ot entirely sure if I'm paraphrasing the above post or not, but....

If we got promoted to the Championship next season, as the law stands today, would we have to remove the safe standing?

Im all for it, but having it for one season seems wasteful, if indeed that is the case.

We are already in the bracket that safe standing isn’t allowed. This is just a barrier in between the rows.

 

[Essexyellows]

Until "us" football fans stop behaving like territorial neanderthals then the wish for safe standing will remain a distant dream.
The chances of reclaiming the working mans game from the jaws of the ££££`s machine are nil.
Seats create more control and income ...... you might get a token % of safe standing but that will be it.

 

[WuTang]

This might be a silly question, but are we required to have an all seater stadium, as we were in the Championship / equivalent for the required number of years after the rules changed when at the Manor, even though when we moved to the Kassam we were below that level? please excuse errors!

Unfortunately yes we are. We fall into the group of clubs who cannot install any standing areas. This is very clever from Mixter, we would be installing a safe standing area whilst retaining the all-seater stadium criteria.

 

[SteMerritt]

Don't suppose there is any chance this can be installed in the top area of the East Stand which is currently empty?

 

[DreamInYellow]

We are already in the bracket that safe standing isn’t allowed. This is just a barrier in between the rows.

The Oxford Mail used the phrase safe-standing, I didnt realise the Ox-rail was a different concept. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[bicesterox]

We are already in the bracket that safe standing isn’t allowed. This is just a barrier in between the rows.

Which will probably be at eye level of the person in the row behind if they are sitting ?

 

[Deleted member 462]

We are already in the bracket that safe standing isn’t allowed. This is just a barrier in between the rows.

The Oxford Mail used the phrase safe-standing, I didnt realise the Ox-rail was a different concept. Thanks for clearing that up.

Following on from OXtales and OXrails will be , OXfails by the OXmail

 

[Northstandboy]

With safe standing, are you still allocated a space? Or do you stand where you want?

 

[Fanatica]

Which will probably be at eye level of the person in the row behind if they are sitting ?

Good thing it’s going in areas that people already stand, isn’t it?

 

[stokeu]

i read the article and i dont see where it endorses standing

 

[Telforddave]

With safe standing, are you still allocated a space? Or do you stand where you want?

As it’s not officially safe standing and the ground is still considered all seater then I would assume it’s still allocated seating. The only way we could move away from allocated seating is when we get to the point where these rails are placed on every row in a stand and then you could potentially make it a free for all.

 

[Ricey]

Surely the owner of the stadium will have something to say about this? I guess if it didn’t cost him anything he don’t care.!

 

[ZeroTheHero]

So (as I understand it) this isn't proper 'safe standing' at all, but additional barriers bolted between the rows of seats where people habitually stand. Is there really a major problem with people tumbling down multiple rows of seats in the East Stand? Can't say I have ever noticed it happening? Seen it a few times at away games - maybe we ought to take portable crash barriers with us when we go elsewhere

 

[yellowbow]

So (as I understand it) this isn't proper 'safe standing' at all, but additional barriers bolted between the rows of seats where people habitually stand. Is there really a major problem with people tumbling down multiple rows of seats in the East Stand? Can't say I have ever noticed it happening? Seen it a few times at away games - maybe we ought to take portable crash barriers with us when we go elsewhere

I agree. Is this expenditure really necessary? I suppose, as others have stated, the fact that the barriers are there would mean you’d HAVE to stand up to have a view of the game, but you’d have a seat for reading your programme (if they’d still exist) at halftime. Win win then.

 

[Corporate_Clive]

Do you have any examples of this please? I can just about use my feeble imagination, but if you know of any other clubs that do something similar, I'd be interested to see them. Cheers.

Great news, I agree. Even though I sit as I attend games with my old man, I'd definitely look to stand at games he doesn't attend.

For me it's not about sitting vs standing and which is safer etc. It's about whether standing is safe enough and giving people the choice to choose what they want to do, which I believe it is. Besides, thousands stand at top flight rugby games in this country. Drink alcohol, too. Another example of football fans being treated as 'less than' by others.

With respect you cant compare Rugby and Football fans. IMO total different "beasts".

 

[makv]

Do you have any examples of this please? I can just about use my feeble imagination, but if you know of any other clubs that do something similar, I'd be interested to see them. Cheers.

Great news, I agree. Even though I sit as I attend games with my old man, I'd definitely look to stand at games he doesn't attend.

For me it's not about sitting vs standing and which is safer etc. It's about whether standing is safe enough and giving people the choice to choose what they want to do, which I believe it is. Besides, thousands stand at top flight rugby games in this country. Drink alcohol, too. Another example of football fans being treated as 'less than' by others.

With respect you cant compare Rugby and Football fans. IMO total different "beasts".

WUM

 

[Paul Cannell]

Football fans tend not to wear mustard cords or purple chinos, or be arseholes.

 

[stokeu]

[QUOTE}or be arseholes.

You've never been to Anfield then?

 

[stokeu]

or be arseholes.

You've never been to Anfield then?

 

[Paul Cannell]

Fair point. I never did.

 

[holdsteady]

With respect you cant compare Rugby and Football fans. IMO total different "beasts".

True, rugby fans behave much worse. The police in Cardiff have said that Welsh rugby games at the millennium stadium cause far more trouble than Cardiff city games, that’s a club with one of the worst reputations in a league with Leeds and Millwall. When we played Wimbledon away a few years ago I had to get the train to Twickenham to change for Kingston and there was a club game on there with a big crowd, gobbiest bunch of dickheads I have ever had the misfortune to be in any type of vehicle with, if al queada had blown it up I would of considered it a mercy killing.

To add to that there was yet another big punch up at the races the other day, pretty much one at every big race now. How football fans continue to be victimised compared to other sports with various draconian rules enforced is strange, either bring in the same rules for all sporting events or allow football the same rules, the bias towards posher sports is so blatant as to be ridiculously obvious.

On a slightly different note I have been traveling through Henley a bit for work, they have had huge marquees right by the river up for the regatta weeks in advance, the same council that has allowed that refused the priory pub permission to have one smallish one up.

One rule for them and one rule for us.