National News Official 2019 General Election Thread

SteMerritt said:
According to this...

www.telegraph.co.uk

Is it game over for school playing fields?

Some 10,000 playing fields were sold off under the 1979-1997 Conservative governments - and for schoolchildren now the prospects have never been worse
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk

... The last Labour government was selling off more school playing fields than the coalition government...
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Yellow Taxi,
Do facts make a difference or Labour = good and everything else = bad?
Just interested as I know Labour and Tody voters who would vote for their parties even if Donald Duck was in charge.
 
YellowTaxi said:
The coalition was disastrous. Needless austerity which increased the debt and led to120000 extra deaths according to an Oxford university study.

Cuts in schools. Cuts in the health service 9000 a year student fees. Lack of investment in infrastructure Talking up imagined problems with the EU as a distraction Destruction of Legal Aid. Police Cuts. Removing bursaries for nurses. Cuts in sports and youth work. Making schools sell off playing fields. Cuts in social care.

What was so good about it?
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A little more nuance to consider for your austerity and 120k deaths claim.

www.channel4.com

FactCheck: did austerity kill 120,000 people?

That was the claim shared by Jeremy Corbyn — but is it true?
www.channel4.com www.channel4.com
 
Under the Conservatives We have become a country where infant mortality is rising and life expectancy is falling

https://twitter.com/x/status/1194591266383765504

Meanwhile many of those “ jobs” are zero hours contracts which don’t pay enough to live on.

Many of the thousands now sleeping on the streets are in work.

This article by a leading economist explains why austerity was wrong, and praises Labour-and some Tories for finally realising the need to spend.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1195224297226113024

The fact that Labour also sold off school playing fields does not mean it is a good policy.
 
YellowTaxi said:
As for super fast broadband- an excellent idea by the way- if it wasn’t for Margaret Thatcher we’d have it already.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1195234412788629505
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We that's a very black and white way of looking at it. It was the monopolies commission that got involved. So you are saying Labour would be against the monopolies commission getting in the way of big business? How odd..

labour.org.uk

Press Releases – The Labour Party

labour.org.uk labour.org.uk

... As that isn't the case.
 
Making the infrastructure free doesn’t prevent competition. All roads used to be toll roads.

Currently all providers except Virgin use BTinfrastricture. They still have a monopoly- just thanks to Thatchers Intervention is a slow and inefficient as opposed to being the speed that Japan Korea or even Lithuania have for all their citizens
 
And Amazon Facebook and google pay for it! (About time they paid for something)
 
YellowTaxi said:
Making the infrastructure free doesn’t prevent competition.
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Nobody said it did. You said it's all the Tories fault we don't all have fast broadband, I pointed out it was the monopolies commission, one that Labour is happy to use when it suits.

And some good soundbite politics to finish. Bravo.
 
Margaret Thatcher killed the project on ideological grounds . She was not a Labour politician.

As a result we are decades behind Japan and Korea.
 
The reaction online to the broadband announcement was quite surprising. It didn't go down that well, much worse than those sort of policy announcements do.

What else are they going to nationalise? They've doing the rail, the water, the leccy, the broadband, what next? They've admitted they can't fully nationalise the NHS, but will it be the house building, or even the air we breath?

And the biggest thing Labour are forgetting is the UK pension schemes that are invested in our utilities. Are they really considering ripping off those of us who have put money away for a private pension? Natioanlising incontinence on a massive scale.
 
YellowTaxi said:
Margaret Thatcher killed the project on ideological grounds . She was not a Labour politician.

As a result we are decades behind Japan and Korea.
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So you are completely against politicians getting in the way of big business on ideological grounds? Just to be clear?
 
As for free broadband, I presume this would be a guaranteed minimum spec, were any details given? Data allowances? Speed? Is the line rental charge included in this? What about the hardware requirements?
 
SteMerritt said:
So you are completely against politicians getting in the way of big business on ideological grounds? Just to be clear?
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Im against politicians stifling innovation for ideological reasons. In this case a phony competition and refusal to invest meant British infrastructure lagged decades behind its competitors.

Another area was the Tories refusal to invest in tidal power, where the U.K. had a huge technical lead, and huge opportunity to benefit.
 
It would have been perfectly possible to allow competition whilst keeping the telecommunications infrastructure in public hands and investing so 98 percent of the population has access to fast fibre broadband as they do in Japan.

Thatcher’s decision prevented that
 
YellowTaxi said:
It would have been perfectly possible to allow competition whilst keeping the telecommunications infrastructure in public hands and investing so 98 percent of the population has access to fast fibre broadband as they do in Japan.

Thatcher’s decision prevented that
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it. Of course, in 1990 technology was vastly different, 'broadband' didn't exist. To say 'its Thatchers fault' we don't all have superfast broadband is simplifying things to an illogical extreme.
 
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