MiddleBartonYellow
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Probably wouldn’t be having this discussion if all the players had stayed fit.
How much do you think the U23 set up has cost tiger? 10 extra players, coaches and an excellent appointment in Dan harris + the running costs. i would suggest this is at least an extra £500k per year added to the club running costs post Eales. tiger is spending money (certainly more than Eales in his last 18 months). including transfer fees for players. It is just that the players it has been spent on has been foolish and we now must get it right.
The u23 is a good long term investment by tiger but Is it an extra £500 000 added to the clubs running costs or is it being subtracted from the 1st team playing budget.
The u23 is a good long term investment by tiger but Is it an extra £500 000 added to the clubs running costs or is it being subtracted from the 1st team playing budget.
Very probably not. But (as has been said many many times) there is not a single club that doesn't get injuries throughout the course of a season and with a number of unfit players being retained (Hall) or signed (Mackie, Holmes) and others who tend not to play a full season (Obika) or have never done so (Browne, Whyte) then you really do stack the odds against yourself. Certainly unlucky with Carruthers being out all season until now though.Probably wouldn’t be having this discussion if all the players had stayed fit.
Difficult to dispute that analysis I findAh, you mean the MK Dons he ran out of steam with and got sacked by after getting them relegated and then proceeding to struggle badly in the league below, and then the Charlton he lasted a year or so at before 'leaving', much to the relief of the fans who then watched a novice manager turn the same team around and get into the playoffs, and then the Oxford he's taken a point a game with across nearly a season of football while winning once away from home? Perfect. The man has spent one season in the Championship across what, nine years of management, and that means he must be good? Judge what's in front of you, and what his record over the last three years or so has been like across three different League One clubs. Otherwise your argument holds about as much water as me standing in the middle of Trafalgar Square after the 2014 World Cup humiliation, or the Iceland debacle of Euro 2016, and shouting, "We won the World Cup once, and we got to a semi in 1990, and we did alright in Euro '96, how dare you say England are rubbish!"
If you think his record since he turned up here isn't incredibly poor, if you think he didn't hugely underachieve at Charlton given what the exact same squad of players did immediately after he left, and if you think he had a good last year or so at MK, more power to you. But he didn't, and I'll judge him on that, not on one promotion to the second tier in nearly a decade of football management. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Since the summer of 2015 he has done nothing but fail, and that's three and a half years.
So he recalled him, stuck him in the championship despite him not being ready and having a decent right back rather than let him stay with us and get the game time he needed?
Actually Robinson was always aware of George’s talent at MK Dons, it was him that pushed George to full back rather than midfield which is where he started. He was proved right in loaning George to us as he needed game time, at that point he wasn’t ready for championship football. He also had a decent right back playing at that time. To me that shows good player management rather than the opposite.
Blimey. Talk about rewriting (very recent) history.He foolishly puts the development of one of our own young players ahead of playing Smith in the last days of his loan spell
Blimey. Talk about rewriting (very recent) history.
Smith was left out because he was useless. Putting him on the pitch in a league game had proved to be completely ineffective. Robinson did not 'decide' to put the development of Spasov ahead of Smith - he had to resort to playing a real youngster to try to salvage something because his signing (Smith) wasn't up to it!
'Adapts systems' - really? I look forward to a time when we have more than one striker on the pitch, rather than a converted old wide player and a couple of young wide players.
There is certainly a discussion to be had about the merits of the manager (and I would actually agree that encouraging young players is one of his plus points) but let's not make stuff up.
Amazing how Oxford are the only league club with loads of injuries.
Every single club gets injuries Karl, but not every manager blames a defeat on this. Change the flipping record.
Amazing how Oxford are the only league club with loads of injuries.
Every single club gets injuries Karl, but not every manager blames a defeat on this. Change the flipping record.
In fairness, loads of managers moan about injuries, suspensions, poor referees and so on. It's just that we don't take notice because it has nothing to do with us. You occasionally get the odd manager who openly praises the opposition or holds their hands up to an error but they are exceptionally rare. The vast majority look to blame so one, and KR is no different.