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New Stadium Project - Key Details
Planning Portal: Planning Application - 24/00539/F
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Latest from Club: 10/03/2025: Hotel Partners Announced (Click Here).​
Latest from CDC: Consultation extended.
Kassam License Extension: OUFC Communication
Target Decision Date: Earliest 31st July 2025, subject to change.
Upcoming CDC Meetings: 3rd July, 31st July
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No doubt about the special circumstances then, will that ever be revealed I wonder.
What I can’t quite get my head around is that if OCC have seen this( or certain councillors) and thought it ok to proceed to the point they will lease a site to us, why haven’t CDC come out and said the same. They must have seen these documents and if so could easily come out and say there are special circumstances. No need to disclose them.
We would still have to go through a rigorous planning scenario but at least everyone would know we where we were.
legal procedure i believe they must be seen to be asking the question
 
legal procedure i believe they must be seen to be asking the question
and should, in the unlikely event CDC not ask the question, KPC , FoSB and the like, will remind CDC, and also 'ask' a host of other spurious questions and/or produce questionable alternative documents and studies, at almost the end of a consultation period, to extend, delay and drag out the process further- as they have done already
 
Can't say much now about these emails due whos now looking at it thats my decision I've not been told to do that
There is a part in that about the Kassam license and how it was terminated. what @Colin B has said previously on the situation is spot on word for word

Then there is some stuff after that all I can say good job there was covenant on the land or we was finished in 2021 that was all that stopped it
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Oh and the rents now higher because we are in the Championship

No doubt about the special circumstances then, will that ever be revealed I wonder.
What I can’t quite get my head around is that if OCC have seen this( or certain councillors) and thought it ok to proceed to the point they will lease a site to us, why haven’t CDC come out and said the same. They must have seen these documents and if so could easily come out and say there are special circumstances. No need to disclose them.
We would still have to go through a rigorous planning scenario but at least everyone would know we where we were.

As daft as it is dealing with two different councils, OCC grant the use (purchase or lease) of it to OUFC whereas CDC give permission for what goes on it (ie, a stadium and its ancillaries).

As such, CDC shouldn’t need to ask any further questions provided OCC have done it for them.

Happy to be told otherwise if I’m not correct there.
 
As daft as it is dealing with two different councils, OCC grant the use (purchase or lease) of it to OUFC whereas CDC give permission for what goes on it (ie, a stadium and its ancillaries).

As such, CDC shouldn’t need to ask any further questions provided OCC have done it for them.

Happy to be told otherwise if I’m not correct there.

Because objectors — notably Friends of Stratfield Brake (FoSB) and Ian Middleton — repeatedly claimed:

That Oxford United can stay at the Kassam.

That the club hadn’t proven they can’t remain there.

That no proof had been submitted about the lease expiring or being unrenewable.


These claims made the “need to relocate” a contested point, especially under Green Belt policy, where “Very Special Circumstances” (VSCs) must be demonstrated.

When objectors raise something that:

Relates to a core justification for development (in this case, OUFC needing a new stadium),

And call into question the evidence base behind that claim…


…the planning officer is obliged to:

Assess whether the application still holds up, and

Request further information if needed to properly determine the application.

But here's the twist

By demanding “proof” of the club’s lease problems, fosb forced OUFC to:

Submit updated legal evidence,

Clarify they have no long-term security at the Kassam, and

Strengthen their case for the Triangle development.


So ironically, in trying to block the stadium, FoSB and others may have: Triggered the very evidence that supports it.

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@Billyox
Question for you
As FoSB have turned themselves into an anti stadium mouthpiece and put demands on OCC and CDC for answers, could Oxvox OUSP or indeed this Forum put themselves forward and demanded answers in the same way?
Did we miss a trick here

It doesn't really work that way.

The club/Ridge submit evidence to support the planning application. Anyone can then challenge that evidence via the Planning Officer, and where it is deemed necessary, further evidence will be requested.

Every new submission must then be put back out for public consultation, which is why we've seen this dragging on and on.

Its frustrating but its also due process and something that we unfortunately have to accept.
 
@Billyox
Question for you
As FoSB have turned themselves into an anti stadium mouthpiece and put demands on OCC and CDC for answers, could Oxvox OUSP or indeed this Forum put themselves forward and demanded answers in the same way?
Did we miss a trick here

I don’t think we missed a trick. FoSB have gone full anti-stadium and are just shouting the loudest—doesn’t mean they’re being listened to. OxVox and OUSP have gone about it the right way, working with the council, the club, and responding properly to the consultation. That actually gets taken seriously.


FoSB send aggressive emails demanding things like they speak for everyone, when they clearly don’t. It might make noise, but it’s not how you get results. I’d rather be on the side doing things properly and being respected, not just making a scene for attention
 
and now for something interesting


According to the actual licence june 21 - june 26 (Appendix 6, clause 5.15) between OUFC and Firoka, Oxford United are required:


“To use its commercially reasonable endeavours during the term of this Agreement to support and assist Firoka in obtaining planning consent for the redevelopment of the Stadium at the end of the Licence Period.”


In plain English? The Kassam is a dead end. The club is legally bound to help the landlord redevelop the site — not stay there. Anyone still talking about “just staying put” needs to read the contract.
 
and now for something interesting


According to the actual licence june 21 - june 26 (Appendix 6, clause 5.15) between OUFC and Firoka, Oxford United are required:


“To use its commercially reasonable endeavours during the term of this Agreement to support and assist Firoka in obtaining planning consent for the redevelopment of the Stadium at the end of the Licence Period.”


In plain English? The Kassam is a dead end. The club is legally bound to help the landlord redevelop the site — not stay there. Anyone still talking about “just staying put” needs to read the contract.

Redevelopment of the stadium could mean “build a fourth stand and fill in the corners” 😂
 
What was it a few seasons ago first game and the seats were covered in it and there was I thinking we paid a service charge to the rogue landlord to do the cleaning

The stupid thing about that was that a contract provider had been in the night before to clean the seats. However, pigeons roosting above just shat all over them again.

We now have a hawk that discourages the pigeons so that once cleaned, the seats tend to stay clean.

OUSP collects feedback and pigeon poo was barely mentioned last season, so that's a good thing. The toilets however, are a whole other matter and continue to be a disgrace!
 
The stupid thing about that was that a contract provider had been in the night before to clean the seats. However, pigeons roosting above just shat all over them again.

We now have a hawk that discourages the pigeons so that once cleaned, the seats tend to stay clean.

OUSP collects feedback and pigeon poo was barely mentioned last season, so that's a good thing. The toilets however, are a whole other matter and continue to be a disgrace!
Yes, in the East Stand the WC's seem to be blocked by half time nearly every match.
 
The stupid thing about that was that a contract provider had been in the night before to clean the seats. However, pigeons roosting above just shat all over them again.

We now have a hawk that discourages the pigeons so that once cleaned, the seats tend to stay clean.

OUSP collects feedback and pigeon poo was barely mentioned last season, so that's a good thing. The toilets however, are a whole other matter and continue to be a disgrace!
I know they brought an exterminator in a few seasons back but if the hawk prevails then all good
 
Yes, in the East Stand the WC's seem to be blocked by half time nearly every match.
Well that’s not down to me I refuse to sit on those seats as people can’t understand if you want a p**s use the urinals but if you can’t wait then lift the seat oh as it appears there are a few small boys…….stand closer so you hit your target
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The stupid thing about that was that a contract provider had been in the night before to clean the seats. However, pigeons roosting above just shat all over them again.

We now have a hawk that discourages the pigeons so that once cleaned, the seats tend to stay clean.

OUSP collects feedback and pigeon poo. It was barely mentioned last season, so that's a good thing. The toilets however, are a whole other matter and continue to be a disgrace!
So that's what they do???!!!
 
Your missing the bit that says
obtaining planning consent for the redevelopment of the Stadium at the end of the Licence Period.”
I know that, you know that but a number of our own fans still think like that.
Only last week when meeting up with some friends, I overheard someone say just that.
Put them right of course but I still feel he didn’t believe me
 
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