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New Stadium Project - Key Details
Planning Portal: Planning Application - 24/00539/F
Stadium News Digest Thread: Click Here.
Latest from Club: 10/03/2025: Hotel Partners Announced (Click Here).​
Latest from CDC: Consultation extended.
Kassam License Extension: OUFC Communication
Target Decision Date: Earliest 31st July 2025, subject to change.
Upcoming CDC Meetings: 3rd July, 31st July
Agendas published a week before​

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Which begs another questoon.

Would the results of the recent local elections have been different if this announcement had come out 3 or 4 weeks ago?
I suspect they might. The people of Kidlington East and Kidlington West would most likely have a different councillor representing them.
They wouldn't be any different, because the residents would believe the OM headline and presume Middleton had delivered upon his promise.
 
Here is a salutary lesson (or perhaps a salutary warning) to show what happens when you don't follow the planning rules

www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/problems-facing-accrington-stanley-fc-31631809.amp
I know a little about this as some of my in-laws are accy stanley fans. Basically the club cocked up about the planning and building of Coleys bar behind the main stand and didn't sound proof coleys bar. When Coleys bar first opened up. The club had live bands play there and have discos etc there. It was hugely popular and a good revenue stream for the club. Then the locals complain about the noise levels. Council then stopped the club using Coleys bar as a live music venue and then the club realised that it would be too expensive to sound proof Coleys Bar. Shame really as it's nice in there, good beers at cheep prices and a nice setting,quite industrial looking inside.
 
Once it is all built and running efficiently, he will do this. Showing off the fantastic green asset that was constructed in his constituency - fully inferring his involvement was beneficial, and trying to take as many plaudits as he can. Probably something along the lines of his regular objections were purely to ensure the stadium was as green as possible, as opposed to endlessly NIMBYism.
Middleton should have channelled his opposition ( maybe he did ) to the Northern Gateway. Triangle pales into insignificance compared to this development. Four story building with bright red roof.....easily seen from the stratosphere. A massive construction site that is so close to Kidlington. For those of you who do not travel regularly west out of Oxford....go and have a look. All this anti-stadium rubbish is pitiful.
 
Middleton should have channelled his opposition ( maybe he did ) to the Northern Gateway. Triangle pales into insignificance compared to this development. Four story building with bright red roof.....easily seen from the stratosphere. A massive construction site that is so close to Kidlington. For those of you who do not travel regularly west out of Oxford....go and have a look. All this anti-stadium rubbish is pitiful.
Drove past the Red Hall last weekend and the better half remarked "what a horrible looking building"
 
Feels a bit like we need a 'least wanted' list of some of these folk who keep popping up in these FOSB type chats.
 
Whoever within the FOSB hierarchy thought it was a good idea to flood the planning portal with objections based around an inaccurate headline in the Oxford Mail made a serious error of judgement on their part. All that time and effort completely wasted.

But as the great Barry Davies once said ‘quite frankly who cares’, it’s destroyed any credibility they ever had, and has made the planning officers’ job much easier. Lots of objection letter straight in the bin where they belong.
 
It's a shame the new stadium will be defaced on the first day, but the toilets closest to where I'm sitting will need to be renamed to the 'Ian Middleton Waste Disposal Centre' and the urinals will definitely have to have cardboard cutout surrounds of his face where the urinal is replacing his gaping mouth.
 
Whoever within the FOSB hierarchy thought it was a good idea to flood the planning portal with objections based around an inaccurate headline in the Oxford Mail made a serious error of judgement on their part. All that time and effort completely wasted.

But as the great Barry Davies once said ‘quite frankly who cares’, it’s destroyed any credibility they ever had, and has made the planning officers’ job much easier. Lots of objection letter straight in the bin where they belong.
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Whoever within the FOSB hierarchy thought it was a good idea to flood the planning portal with objections based around an inaccurate headline in the Oxford Mail made a serious error of judgement on their part. All that time and effort completely wasted.

But as the great Barry Davies once said ‘quite frankly who cares’, it’s destroyed any credibility they ever had, and has made the planning officers’ job much easier. Lots of objection letter straight in the bin where they belong.
Whilst we've all been frustrated by the lack of communication from the club at times, I think that they've played the "rope-a-dope" tactic superbly here.

Sitting back and letting FoSB smuggly present a dated and inconclusive email as "proof" that they can stay, blocking the planning portal with cut and paste objections, whilst knowing that this statement was in the wings and ready to be published?

I would still have liked far more communication but on this front they've played a blinder.
 
The sad thing is that, as always, actual real concerns from people (which we should, absolutely, address) are being drowned out by the rantings of the usual suspects and their bagmen. When these are swatted away they come up with even more hairbrained rubbish.

Without wanting to jinx it, it's all over bar the shouting for me.
But have you not noticed there is one objection that we can't answer yet none of those who object say it
 
Whoever within the FOSB hierarchy thought it was a good idea to flood the planning portal with objections based around an inaccurate headline in the Oxford Mail made a serious error of judgement on their part. All that time and effort completely wasted.

But as the great Barry Davies once said ‘quite frankly who cares’, it’s destroyed any credibility they ever had, and has made the planning officers’ job much easier. Lots of objection letter straight in the bin where they belong.
I guess that they have always been clutching at straws.
And they have been fighting far more professional and cleverer people than they are used to facing in their non stop opposition to anything that people may enjoy.
And they have put all of their eggs in one basket. Bot that they really had much of a choice
 
The sad thing is that, as always, actual real concerns from people (which we should, absolutely, address) are being drowned out by the rantings of the usual suspects and their bagmen. When these are swatted away they come up with even more hairbrained rubbish.

Without wanting to jinx it, it's all over bar the shouting for me.

I agree entirely. I feel that there are local residents who are genuinely concerned about an influx of people and vehicles at weekends and evenings. And whether we agree or disagree, there is a public perception, often fuelled by the media, that football fans equates to increases in anti-social behaviour. And then there will be those who have genuine concerns about the environmental and ever increasing developments/housing.

They have been let down by those who pretend to represent their concerns, who have instead engaged in nothing more than an ego trip to get their names in the media at every given opportunity.

Fortunately, the club have at least tried to reach out to these people with public consultations and this will hopefully continue after planning has been approved. Because we should all want a stadium that meets the needs of the entire community and for us to be good neighbours, and I hope that we are.
 
The sad thing is that, as always, actual real concerns from people (which we should, absolutely, address) are being drowned out by the rantings of the usual suspects and their bagmen. When these are swatted away they come up with even more hairbrained rubbish.

Without wanting to jinx it, it's all over bar the shouting for me.
Exactly this - anyone with genuine concerns has simply been talked over by a few loud egomaniacs who thought they knew best. A large number of people should feel very let down by the actions of a few who don't even live in the "village".
 
I agree entirely. I feel that there are local residents who are genuinely concerned about an influx of people and vehicles at weekends and evenings. And whether we agree or disagree, there is a public perception, often fuelled by the media, that football fans equates to increases in anti-social behaviour. And then there will be those who have genuine concerns about the environmental and ever increasing developments/housing.

They have been let down by those who pretend to represent their concerns, who have instead engaged in nothing more than an ego trip to get their names in the media at every given opportunity.

Fortunately, the club have at least tried to reach out to these people with public consultations and this will hopefully continue after planning has been approved. Because we should all want a stadium that meets the needs of the entire community and for us to be good neighbours, and I hope that we are.
Agree 100%- KPC refused to engage with OUFC right from when SB sports ground was on the table, they also failed to engage with any of the Kidlington Sports clubs based at SB

FoSB actively discouraged residents from attending any of the local presentations

the Green leader on KPC despite being invited on more than a few occasions has avoided any engagement with OUFC representatives

two exceptions to no engagement from KPC being 2 years ago when Niall Mac addressed the (packed) AGM prior to the meeting proper starting ( the meeting where FoSB railroaded KPC into holding a costly pointless and premature poll, despite the chairman at the time advising them to wait until more information was available), and OUFC had a Stadium bid stall at the most recent AGM. Prior to which KPC en mass had posted a communal objection on CDC planning portal ( that has since be proven to be erroneous in many of its objections)

The opening question to the Chair person at KPCs very recent AGM was 'what are OUFC doing here?' ( hmm, wonder where that question came from?), yet the OUFC Stadium bid stall had the most amount of interest, with residents asking questions of the club representatives, and getting open and transparent replies. ( as @bazzer9461 and others witnessed)

KPC councillors have had countless opportunities to engage with OUFC and ensure the best possible deals for residents could be achieved. Yet instead they, KPC, chose to do nothing of the sort.

Of course there are genuine concerns that residents have, most if not all which are potentially straightforward and easy to address, problem, as @Scotchegg points out, is that the residents of Kidlington have been let down by their elected councillors, who only appear to take on board the narrow views of a small group made up of mainly non Kidlington residents and view those as the only ones with validity. A group whose campaign of scaremongering and deliberate misinformation, fully intended to deceive has, in no uncertain terms, been discredited. Both KPC and FoSB have acted shamefully
 
Exactly this - anyone with genuine concerns has simply been talked over by a few loud egomaniacs who thought they knew best. A large number of people should feel very let down by the actions of a few who don't even live in the "village".

On the other foot alot of residents have been very daft in believing the nonsense being spoken by the sad few and not reading the planning application themselves or getting the facts from other sources.

I work in Kidlington homes frequently and only last week did I have a resident telling me she put an objection in because the club don't have to move as there was an article in the Oxford mail. 🤦
 
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