Italian Football Monkey chants "not racist"......

[Essexyellows]

Romelu Lukaku: Monkey chants a form of 'respect' and 'not racist' say Inter Milan fans group

A group of Inter Milan fans claim Cagliari supporters were showing Romelu Lukaku a form of "respect" when they aimed monkey chants at him on Sunday.

www.bbc.co.uk

Now I`m old enough to have seen, participated in and (happily) the demise of such behaviour, but trying to say it "is in support" of a player................ come on!!

 

[Sarge]

Romelu Lukaku: Monkey chants a form of 'respect' and 'not racist' say Inter Milan fans group

A group of Inter Milan fans claim Cagliari supporters were showing Romelu Lukaku a form of "respect" when they aimed monkey chants at him on Sunday.

www.bbc.co.uk

Now I`m old enough to have seen, participated in and (happily) the demise of such behaviour, but trying to say it "is in support" of a player................ come on!!

.... a reason as to perhaps why Brexit does have its good points?

 

[Marked Ox]

.... a reason as to perhaps why Brexit does have its good points?

Not really, after the Referendum, Cornwall and Devon Police recorded a 30+% increase in racist crimes iirc the figure quoted on Call the Cops the other night. They won't be unique either. The moron shouting EDL and racist abuse, whilst saying freedom of speech afterwards, at a Black Response Officer just embarrassed himself but shows how it has emboldened some racists. The same Response Officer, whilst anecdotal, noted that the racist abuse he receives has increased since the Referendum.

 

[Essexyellows]

Not really, after the Referendum, Cornwall and Devon Police recorded a 30+% increase in racist crimes iirc the figure quoted on Call the Cops the other night. They won't be unique either. The moron shouting EDL and racist abuse, whilst saying freedom of speech afterwards, at a Black Response Officer just embarrassed himself but shows how it has emboldened some racists. The same Response Officer, whilst anecdotal, noted that the racist abuse he receives has increased since the Referendum.

I very much doubt his behaviour had anything to do with being "emboldened by Brexit", the bloke was an absolute tool.

In Leicester we also suffer the "unique" situation of different ethnicities racially abusing each other, not all racism is by white Europeans.

 

[Marked Ox]

I very much doubt his behaviour had anything to do with being "emboldened by Brexit", the bloke was an absolute tool.

In Leicester we also suffer the "unique" situation of different ethnicities racially abusing each other, not all racism is by white Europeans.

Oh agreed all races have their racists. I called my asst manager (his Mum and Dad were from the Caribbean) out for calling an Asian lad a "P***" from when I was working part time through Uni.

 

[Gary Baldi]

I very much doubt his behaviour had anything to do with being "emboldened by Brexit", the bloke was an absolute tool.

In Leicester we also suffer the "unique" situation of different ethnicities racially abusing each other, not all racism is by white Europeans.

Blaming Brexit for everything again ?

 

[Marked Ox]

Blaming Brexit for everything again ?

That'll be because there is a clear correlation in the stats discussed in the programme.

 

[chuckbert]

I very much doubt his behaviour had anything to do with being "emboldened by Brexit", the bloke was an absolute tool.

In Leicester we also suffer the "unique" situation of different ethnicities racially abusing each other, not all racism is by white Europeans.

Oh excellent. Are we doing "whatabout bingo" again?

 

[Emilio]

As an Italian myself, I can assure you, racism is rife in Italy, not least in Cagliari (on the south coast of Sardinia), whose proximity to Tunisia and Algeria sees a large number of illegal immigrants landing on boats.

 

[Paul Cannell]

As an Italian myself, I can assure you, racism is rife in Italy, not least in Cagliari (on the south coast of Sardinia), whose proximity to Tunisia and Algeria sees a large number of illegal immigrants landing on boats.

Do you think it's because of Brexit, tho?

 

[Emilio]

Do you think it's because of Brexit, tho?

Because of Regular Exodus to ITaly

 

[Essexyellows]

Oh excellent. Are we doing "whatabout bingo" again?

Might be difficult for you to understand but I was referring to two separate "things".
The TV programme where the bloke was an absolute frothing idiot, and the local situation in the most culturally diverse city in the UK.

Nothing to do with "whatabout" just statements of experience and opinion, its what forums are for!

 

[Paul Cannell]

To paraphrase - "racism by white europeans is excusable because not all racism is by white europeans". Whatabout that?

 

[Essexyellows]

To paraphrase - "racism by white europeans is excusable because not all racism is by white europeans". Whatabout that?

Who said it was by white europeans ? The report referred to the group in question being "multi-ethnic."

Racism by anybody isn`t excusable in today`s society, its how we evolved from clumping each other with wooden clubs!


Unless its pikeys..... then its open season...... pass me the club. ?

 

[Paul Cannell]

I was speaking generally. However your voluntary inclusion speaks for itself.

 

[Essexyellows]

I was speaking generally. However your voluntary inclusion speaks for itself.

Whom were you paraphrasing then? ?

Spade is a spade in my garden shed.

 

[Wallop]

What brilliant timing for the Italian cause. As a race I have to say that the Italians are.........whoops nearly got on the racist bus.

Fernando Forestieri: Sheffield Wednesday forward to serve six-game ban after losing racism appeal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49592857

 

[Sarge]

What brilliant timing for the Italian cause. As a race I have to say that the Italians are.........whoops nearly got on the racist bus.

Fernando Forestieri: Sheffield Wednesday forward to serve six-game ban after losing racism appeal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49592857

an Italian trait apparently? ..... as a former Italian manager of that shower down the wrong end of the a420 was captured in the act of demonstrating his particular leanings ....

 

[Essexyellows]

What brilliant timing for the Italian cause. As a race I have to say that the Italians are.........whoops nearly got on the racist bus.

Fernando Forestieri: Sheffield Wednesday forward to serve six-game ban after losing racism appeal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49592857

He`s an Argentinian by birth........... naturalised Italian.

First part is a good enough reason for him to get a slap but that tackle was brutal!!

 

[Essexyellows]

Ashes 2019: Two Australian fans ejected from Old Trafford for Jofra Archer taunts

Two Australian cricket fans are ejected from Old Trafford for using "foul and abusive" language towards England fast bowler Jofra Archer.

www.bbc.co.uk

Where is the borderline? Is "Show us your passport" unacceptable or banter???

 

[SteMerritt]

Ashes 2019: Two Australian fans ejected from Old Trafford for Jofra Archer taunts

Two Australian cricket fans are ejected from Old Trafford for using "foul and abusive" language towards England fast bowler Jofra Archer.

www.bbc.co.uk

Where is the borderline? Is "Show us your passport" unacceptable or banter???

Must be more to it than that surely...

 

[Essexyellows]

Must be more to it than that surely...

Kind of guess so as, from the article, "referenced his heritage"................. no more calling the referee a basket then?

 

[Marked Ox]

Kind of guess so as, from the article, "referenced his heritage"................. no more calling the referee a basket then?

Nah, just call them a w****r instead, that will probably be factual for most people it is shouted at.

 

[Foley]

Romelu Lukaku & Chris Smalling criticise 'Black Friday' headline

Inter Milan striker Romelu Lukaku and Roma defender Chris Smalling condemn the 'Black Friday' headline used by Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not monkey chants but in Italy.. wow.

 

[Wallop]

Romelu Lukaku & Chris Smalling criticise 'Black Friday' headline

Inter Milan striker Romelu Lukaku and Roma defender Chris Smalling condemn the 'Black Friday' headline used by Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport.

www.bbc.co.uk

Not monkey chants but in Italy.. wow.

Two incidents of alleged racism today at Man City and FGR.......so problems here still albeit not from press headlines!

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Two incidents of alleged racism today at Man City and FGR.......so problems here still albeit not from press headlines!

A 13 year old, I repeat, A 13 YEAR OLD, was ejected at the Spurs vs Burnley game this weekend due to racist abuse towards Son. This just shows the sort of society we now live in where even kids think it is ok to shout racist remarks at players. When I was 13 going to watch Oxford I was on edge if I even swore at a player/ref.
Burnley have said they will make the 13 year old do an educational programme but IMO I think their parents need to carry out the educational programme with them.

In just a few weeks it will be 2020 yet it feels like this country is going backwards not forwards.

 

[Wallop]

A 13 year old, I repeat, A 13 YEAR OLD, was ejected at the Spurs vs Burnley game this weekend due to racist abuse towards Son. This just shows the sort of society we now live in where even kids think it is ok to shout racist remarks at players. When I was 13 going to watch Oxford I was on edge if I even swore at a player/ref.
Burnley have said they will make the 13 year old do an educational programme but IMO I think their parents need to carry out the educational programme with them.

In just a few weeks it will be 2020 yet it feels like this country is going backwards not forwards.

Not forgiving it in any way but 13 year olds by their very nature are impressionable and keen to 'impress' others even if that's in a totally misguided way. I'd be more disappointed if it was a 18+ year old.

 

[Foley]

Not forgiving it in any way but 13 year olds by their very nature are impressionable and keen to 'impress' others even if that's in a totally misguided way. I'd be more disappointed if it was a 18+ year old.

And I would think that the 13 year old learned this from their parents.
As kick it out are saying a lot of the time. It is about education ( the way to try and beat this awful behaviour)

 

[Wallop]

And I would think that the 13 year old learned this from their parents.
As kick it out are saying a lot of the time. It is about education ( the way to try and beat this awful behaviour)

I suspect you're quite right about the real source of this behaviour hence my reference to impressionability. Also agree that education and public shaming are key.

 

[Scotchegg]

I'm not so sure about public shaming. I'm in absolutely no way defending racism or homophobic behaviour, but trial by social media is not the right way to proceed. Identify the individuals, put them through the courts, hit them hard with lifetime bans etc. and then put their names in the press - as we would do with any other crime.

IF, and I know it appears unlikely, but there is the chance that the incident at the Manchester derby is dropped before getting to court. But that guy would have likely lost his job by then and will be seen as guilty by the nation. That makes me uncomfortable.