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Current Player Marselino Ferdinan
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werthersoriginal
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holdsteady
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I think you can make a good shout that England has the best, or at least one of the best football league systems from top to bottom in the world, we have the advantage of history (had a lot of years as the first country to do it to work on it), geography (the size of the country and ease of getting around are advantage over the likes of Brazil and the US) and demography (we have a decent sized population), obviously its a subjective opinion but the above factors added into the populations zeal for the sport and the attendances through out the pyramid do give an indicator. You certainly don't look at any other country and feel envious, all the regional leagues so high up in comparison to ours dilute the lower levels for me elsewhere, our set up seems the best.
No real evidence towards the view our second tier is pretty much an elite league though, which being fifth in the world very nearly make it, its a very good standard for the level it is but not quite where some people want to paint it.
Littlemore Local
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NorthWestOx
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Welcome to the forum Mr. Ferdinan, I hope we see your lad play soon.
It's also true that the youth coaching in Japan (and I assume South Korea as well), and professionalization of school sports is insane. Great facilities, high quality technical coaching and crazily popular - last year's All Japan High School Soccer Tournament finals had an average crowd of 7,634 (comfortably bigger than League Two).
They really established their youth setup in the 80s and 90s, and it's bearing fruit now.
China meanwhile threw a bunch of money at bringing top world talent to play at their clubs, but didn't put the same focus on youth coaching and sports - net result, their national team is still struggling and they have noone playing in a top European league.
I've no idea what they're doing in Indonesia right now, but there's a very clear roadmap for them as to what works and what doesn't. But it does take time.......
chromeyellow
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I didn’t say that Indonesian football is now the equivalent of South Korea and Japan , I said there’s no reason why Indonesia shouldn’t join them. And apart from some general abuse you haven’t offered any.
As I pointed out in my original post Indonesia is bigger than both the other two put together - tje 4th largest country in the world .
Two very wealthy Indonesians are doing their best to make Indonesia a footballing power so that in 20or 30 years time it will be where Japan or South Korea are today.
And Oxford United is a key part of their strategy- which is why the most exciting Indonesian talent ever is on our books
As i said from beginning in some of my posts, let him work to gain his ideal fitness and fight for get chances for play in team....step by step. FYI...since i am Indonesian and have watched his matches from U-17 U-19, U-23 and senior team, and in local club....what we saw in match against Saudi Arabia wasn't his best performance yet. At this moment i am happy because he only play for senior team...no more U-23 game. It will give him more times for recovery and can focus for club.
When coach and his staff see he is fit for the team...that because he deserve that. He will get there someday.
The league still have lot games to play league games, cup games, Des and his staff must be monitoring each players that deserve to play in team. With lot players in team they must be decided best eleven for each match, also need think about recovery, injuries players, etc
I don't think Des will extremely change the squad formation or tactic...if he needs to make rotation or some new players, he must be have strategy for that.
About Marselino position, IMO...if you remember Shinji Kagawa in his prime time with Dortmund, versatile AM, sometimes like false Nine....but that's only my opinion. Maybe you have different opinion.
Once again....so far everything seems on right track for this young man. Step by step gain hi ideal fitness, practice, learn, play for youth team, reserve team...and now only play for senior national team....he will get his chance someday, and that's because his hard work.
Most important...hope Lino still down to earth with current condition. Don't over confidence.
Have a good times and weekend for you all. May Oxford United always get good results.
When coach and his staff see he is fit for the team...that because he deserve that. He will get there someday.
The league still have lot games to play league games, cup games, Des and his staff must be monitoring each players that deserve to play in team. With lot players in team they must be decided best eleven for each match, also need think about recovery, injuries players, etc
I don't think Des will extremely change the squad formation or tactic...if he needs to make rotation or some new players, he must be have strategy for that.
About Marselino position, IMO...if you remember Shinji Kagawa in his prime time with Dortmund, versatile AM, sometimes like false Nine....but that's only my opinion. Maybe you have different opinion.
Once again....so far everything seems on right track for this young man. Step by step gain hi ideal fitness, practice, learn, play for youth team, reserve team...and now only play for senior national team....he will get his chance someday, and that's because his hard work.
Most important...hope Lino still down to earth with current condition. Don't over confidence.
Have a good times and weekend for you all. May Oxford United always get good results.
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Littlemore Local
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Bella Ciao led me to songs sung by Liverpool
who stole it from Celtic who (probably) stole it from Partick Thistle 
and then the trail goes cold, but it probably goes back to Italian roots. The original song goes way back before that and appears in many languages. Our version for the Garuda Messi is obviously the best tho. Can't wait to hear it.
Eric Blair
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Loving your posts. Please keep them coming
werthersoriginal
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Bella Ciao was a song of Italian partisans in the Second World War. My wife who’s learning Italian told me about it a while backBella Ciao led me to songs sung by Liverpool
coldhunter
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good post bro
Orkney Islands Yellow
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Marselino Ferdinan: Buckingham says midfielder may soon make Oxford debut
Oxford United boss Des Buckingham says that Marselino Ferdinan's impact for his national team of Indonesia is "wonderful".
www.bbc.com
Key quote from that is:
"It’s now about him competing for spots with the other boys and if he continues to develop at the rate he has done since he arrived then I’m sure it won’t be long until he makes his debut."
battman
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I don’t think there are many sleeping giants left in international football, but Indonesia is one of them.
They have the three things you need if you want to make a go of massively increasing your standing in global football: a massive population, a strong national interest in football and lots of money.
Whilst China has 2/3, has Chinese football attracted a big passionate fanbase? I’d also argue Japan are successful in the exact model Indonesia want to replicate - let’s not forget there are NO Indonesian-born players playing in the top European leagues.
Indonesia has a population of 277.5m people, have a very passionate fanbase, and billionaires who are at the heart of the Indonesian football revolution. Marselino could be just the start of something big, and as a club we’re directly connected to that journey.
They have the three things you need if you want to make a go of massively increasing your standing in global football: a massive population, a strong national interest in football and lots of money.
Whilst China has 2/3, has Chinese football attracted a big passionate fanbase? I’d also argue Japan are successful in the exact model Indonesia want to replicate - let’s not forget there are NO Indonesian-born players playing in the top European leagues.
Indonesia has a population of 277.5m people, have a very passionate fanbase, and billionaires who are at the heart of the Indonesian football revolution. Marselino could be just the start of something big, and as a club we’re directly connected to that journey.
China did throw money at Academies/youth football but they failed at how they were set up and how the Chinese coaches operate.
The coaching is mainly by repetition with everybody doing the same thing from a young age. This is good for basic skills but there is no individuality within the players so the play is predictable. Culturally it doesn't help either as kids are unlikely to have a kick around with their mates after school as parents will expect them to
China also doesn't have the culture conducive to according to the English ex Director of Football (can't remember his name) who wrote an article on it (which I can't find at the moment). Their players tend to be very similar as they are pretty much coached using the same routines/paint by numbers approach.
The culture doesn't encourage individuality in play so players are scared to stand out and do something different.
This isn't helped as Chinese kids aren't likely to go for a kickabout after school as parents will expect them to focus on education. So an avenue for learning such skills where nobody cares other than to take the P**s is lost.
The change in attitude by the CCP won't help encourage this either.
Eric Blair
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Oh yes it is
Belgium Yellow
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Don't forget Indian football. That's crap at the moment. Can't imagine any of their coaches being any good at management at our kind of level. 
coldhunter
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As far as I know, Southeast Asian competitions like the AFF are very intense. I hope he doesn't get injured and returns to club safely
NorthWestOx
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I thought it would have been a good chance for Lino to get some minutes on Saturday.
Maybe if Scarlett hadn't made it 4-2 with 20 to go, giving us a slight chance, he would have came on for the last 20?
Maybe if Scarlett hadn't made it 4-2 with 20 to go, giving us a slight chance, he would have came on for the last 20?