Ex-Player Thread Mark Sykes

If you were a championship manager would you buy Sykes, and if you did how many games would you think he would play between January and the end of the season.
 
Cass63 said:
If you were a championship manager would you buy Sykes, and if you did how many games would you think he would play between January and the end of the season.
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He would get his chance regularly if it’s a lower championship side whereas middle to top half he may get the odd game
 
Cass63 said:
If you were a championship manager would you buy Sykes, and if you did how many games would you think he would play between January and the end of the season.
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I don’t think he’d currently get a game in a championship side. I think people are underestimating the gulf between the two leagues.
 
milburn said:
I don’t think he’d currently get a game in a championship side. I think people are underestimating the gulf between the two leagues.
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It is a big gap but if you consider that Wycombe nearly stayed up ( with mainly the team that scraped up from L1) and Blackpool are now 10th and 3 points off 5th in the Championship having also gone up in the play offs and with a lot of their L1 players, it is more than possible for decent L1 players to be successful in the Championship.
 
milburn said:
I don’t think he’d currently get a game in a championship side. I think people are underestimating the gulf between the two leagues.
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Roofe, Dickie,Lundstram, Rothwell, Baldock , Atkinson, Johnson and Nelson have all comfortable adapted to the championship.
Even Mowatt who struggled to get a game here, but now every championship side would of liked him in their side.
So can’t see why Sykes couldn’t.
 
Nadi- said:
Roofe, Dickie,Lundstram, Rothwell, Baldock , Atkinson, Johnson and Nelson have all comfortable adapted to the championship.
Even Mowatt who struggled to get a game here, but now every championship side would of liked him in their side.
So can’t see why Sykes couldn’t.
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And Ledson.
 
Nadi- said:
Roofe, Dickie,Lundstram, Rothwell, Baldock , Atkinson, Johnson and Nelson have all comfortable adapted to the championship.
Even Mowatt who struggled to get a game here, but now every championship side would of liked him in their side.
So can’t see why Sykes couldn’t.
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Don’t forget Chey back in league one now tho
 
Nadi- said:
Roofe, Dickie,Lundstram, Rothwell, Baldock , Atkinson, Johnson and Nelson have all comfortable adapted to the championship.
Even Mowatt who struggled to get a game here, but now every championship side would of liked him in their side.
So can’t see why Sykes couldn’t.
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They were better players.
 
Nadi- said:
Roofe, Dickie,Lundstram, Rothwell, Baldock , Atkinson, Johnson and Nelson have all comfortable adapted to the championship.
Even Mowatt who struggled to get a game here, but now every championship side would of liked him in their side.
So can’t see why Sykes couldn’t.
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Also all that list and then you have ruffles who as far I know can’t get in the Huddersfield team yet he was a very good player for us so it works both ways Sykes might be a success but he might not nobody knows
 
Foley said:
How on earth do you know what has gone on?
'Very poor management having zero knowledge?
What if Sykes has said I am.off to play in the Championship?
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That would probably go as well as his decision to dump Northern Ireland for the Republic at international level.
 
ljs said:
They were better players.
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Your entitled to your opinion.
Sykes has come through Irish league football, not having the luxury of being looked after by premier league clubs.
He and Gavin Whyte have come here and had to prove themselves.
Which they have in my opinion.
I’ve said before Robinson got the best out of Gavin, which ended in a good move for himself and us.
I think there’s still a lot more to come from Mark Sykes.
 
Nadi- said:
Roofe, Dickie,Lundstram, Rothwell, Baldock , Atkinson, Johnson and Nelson have all comfortable adapted to the championship.
Even Mowatt who struggled to get a game here, but now every championship side would of liked him in their side.
So can’t see why Sykes couldn’t.
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Most of them at one point were the first name on the team sheet. Sykes just isn't. I'm not saying that he couldn't, but he has to be a star performer most weeks scoring and creating before you'd think he'd be able to make the step up.

For Mowatt it just didn't work out because no one knew what his best position was. When Karl came in he played him on the left wing as it was loaded in the centre and there were not options out wide.
 
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Nadi- said:
Your entitled to your opinion.
Sykes has come through Irish league football, not having the luxury of being looked after by premier league clubs.
He and Gavin Whyte have come here and had to prove themselves.
Which they have in my opinion.
I’ve said before Robinson got the best out of Gavin, which ended in a good move for himself and us.
I think there’s still a lot more to come from Mark Sykes.
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Sykes is a good L1 player imo, but won't cut it in the Championship. Not quick enough or big enough. His 'move' from NI to the Republic was not very well thought through. He would have got 30-40 caps for NI, and he's unlikely ever to make the squad for the Republic. Sounds like he was badly advised by his agent. He'll probably go in the summer- he's a decent L1 player, but no more than that.
 
Northernyellow said:
Sykes is a good L1 player imo, but won't cut it in the Championship. Not quick enough or big enough. His 'move' from NI to the Republic was not very well thought through. He would have got 30-40 caps for NI, and he's unlikely ever to make the squad for the Republic. Sounds like he was badly advised by his agent. He'll probably go in the summer- he's a decent L1 player, but no more than that.
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Until we make the championship and if he is still with us we won’t know if he will cut it.
 
Northernyellow said:
Sykes is a good L1 player imo, but won't cut it in the Championship. Not quick enough or big enough. His 'move' from NI to the Republic was not very well thought through. He would have got 30-40 caps for NI, and he's unlikely ever to make the squad for the Republic. Sounds like he was badly advised by his agent. He'll probably go in the summer- he's a decent L1 player, but no more than that.
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Completely disagree - I think he's come on leaps and bounds since the cold shoulder Robo gave him a couple of seasons ago. He'd be one i'd be looking to tie down longer term. Agree with the poor advise from his agent though.... not quite sure what that was about.
 
Foley said:
Well Mowatt didn't look a better player and Atkinson has huge potential but to me didn't look ready to be a starter in the Championship.
You really don't know how they will do unless they get a chance.
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I agree that you don’t know until they get the chance, but you can’t argue that Atkinson was way more important to our team than Sykes has ever been, and performed at a much higher level, more consistently, than Sykes has for us (so far)
 
Those other players were all obvious stars and clearly too good for our level. Sykes is a decent player but not necessarily the first on the team sheet - he's at the right level for now. Of course he may choose to turn down a new contract and get a good signing on fee to join MK Dons, Plymouth, or whoever.
 
werthersoriginal said:
Those other players were all obvious stars and clearly too good for our level. Sykes is a decent player but not necessarily the first on the team sheet - he's at the right level for now. Of course he may choose to turn down a new contract and get a good signing on fee to join MK Dons, Plymouth, or whoever.
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Could of put the likes of Ipswich in there, if the rumour was true.
Which says to me Bristol city may of had a eye on him, when watching Atkinson
(Ashton)
 
Nadi- said:
Could of put the likes of Ipswich in there, if the rumour was true.
Which says to me Bristol city may of had a eye on him, when watching Atkinson
(Ashton)
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The arguments that 'Bristol City were looking at Atkinson so may have been looking at Sykes' and 'several other ex-players have thrived in the Champ, why wouldn't Sykes?' are not persuasive to me.

I hope we offer him a new contract based on the season so far but I'd think him a country mile away from being offered a chance by a Champ team at the moment.
 
Foley said:
Wycombe nearly stayed up ( with mainly the team that scraped up from L1) and Blackpool are now 10th and 3 points off 5th in the Championship having also gone up in the play offs and with a lot of their L1 players, it is more than possible for decent L1 players to be successful in the Championship.
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Coventry are also fourth in the Championship while Luton are in the top half, and both of those clubs went flying past us after being in L2 while we were in L1. One of them was ground sharing on the other side of the midlands from their home city when they got promoted to the Championship, while the other has a stadium with a capacity of barely 9,000.

But according to some not getting promoted is generally a good thing, because we could never compete, would immediately go bankrupt and would only get smashed every week along the way.

You know where you stand with Accrington.
 
RyanioBirdio said:
Coventry are also fourth in the Championship while Luton are in the top half, and both of those clubs went flying past us after being in L2 while we were in L1. One of them was ground sharing on the other side of the midlands from their home city when they got promoted to the Championship, while the other has a stadium with a capacity of barely 9,000.

But according to some not getting promoted is generally a good thing, because we could never compete, would immediately go bankrupt and would only get smashed every week along the way.

You know where you stand with Accrington.
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Anybody who says we shouldn't try for promotion, or don't want promotion, is an idiot. Period.

It is a fact though that the majority of teams promoted from this tier struggle in the one above.
 
m said:
Anybody who says we shouldn't try for promotion, or don't want promotion, is an idiot. Period.

It is a fact though that the majority of teams promoted from this tier struggle in the one above.
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But tbf if we get promoted we would need a pretty decent overhaul of our playing staff to compete and try and avoid relegation at the end of the 1st season.
If we are able to stay in the championship we would with the extra funds be able to start competing rather than worrying about relegation. Luton and Coventry seem to have managed and with Blackpool doing so well in their first season it shows they had a top side last season in L1
 
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