EPL Man Utd Sack Another Manager

Coffin dodger said:
Shame, I was hoping he'd stay in post for much longer.
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Yep. He was doing a great job.

That said the problems go far deeper than him and it will take a fair while to sort them even if the Ineos lot continue to have full control of football operations. They aren't an attractive place for top players to sign for, hence a past it Casemiro is still a regular part of the squad.

So the next lamb to the slaughter manager gets appointed and then rinse & repeat unless the Board/Ineos lot actually stick with them regardless.
 
Shame. As a kid or the 90s with a burning hatred of Manchester United and their cohort of glory supporting fans from that era, he was doing brilliantly. That disastrous Dalot miss and a ludicrous VAR penalty given against them in the West Ham game from yesterday did for them in the end.

Man United are being run appallingly. Money is chucked at the wrong areas, huge dividends are paid out, Offshore Jim has come in and made staff redundant. Things have to change at the top before any manager has a base to succeed there.

Let’s hope it stays that was for Surrey’s best supporter club for a long time yet.
 
unification said:
Shame. As a kid or the 90s with a burning hatred of Manchester United and their cohort of glory supporting fans from that era, he was doing brilliantly. That disastrous Dalot miss and a ludicrous VAR penalty given against them in the West Ham game from yesterday did for them in the end.

Man United are being run appallingly. Money is chucked at the wrong areas, huge dividends are paid out, Offshore Jim has come in and made staff redundant. Things have to change at the top before any manager has a base to succeed there.

Let’s hope it stays that was for Surrey’s best supporter club for a long time yet.
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I used to feel the same about Man U but its a sign of how bad they are that I barely notice them now, only this sacking bought them to my attention as they have been also rans in the league for so long now.

They were essentially Ferguson United when he was there, an all time great manager who was everything at the club and it has crumbled since he has left, not certain the weird INEOS football but not club owners is going to help them much at all and I don't think a Ferguson is out there to save them (the closest thing is very near by but he wouldn't touch them with a bargepole) so the future looks bleak until someone can properly save them from the Glazers and find and give a good manager a fair chance.

I actually feel a tinge of sympathy for the proper Man U fans and the institution itself, they probably deserve a bit better than the current shitshow, not like you can even gloat much at the glory fans as those lot have gone to ground, never even see them in the Surrey heartlands anymore.
 
holdsteady said:
I used to feel the same about Man U but its a sign of how bad they are that I barely notice them now, only this sacking bought them to my attention as they have been also rans in the league for so long now.

They were essentially Ferguson United when he was there, an all time great manager who was everything at the club and it has crumbled since he has left, not certain the weird INEOS football but not club owners is going to help them much at all and I don't think a Ferguson is out there to save them (the closest thing is very near by but he wouldn't touch them with a bargepole) so the future looks bleak until someone can properly save them from the Glazers and find and give a good manager a fair chance.

I actually feel a tinge of sympathy for the proper Man U fans and the institution itself, they probably deserve a bit better than the current shitshow, not like you can even gloat much at the glory fans as those lot have gone to ground, never even see them in the Surrey heartlands anymore.
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And doubt the new manager will have some of the best of a generation from their youth set up that Ferguson was able to build around. I doubt the manager would be able to do it now anyway with the media/fan pressure.
 
Marked Ox said:
And doubt the new manager will have some of the best of a generation from their youth set up that Ferguson was able to build around. I doubt the manager would be able to do it now anyway with the media/fan pressure.
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Doubt a younger Ferguson would be able to do it now, the game and world have changed so much.

The best manager for them would be Emery, people say he doesn't/can't work with superstars so he would be fine at Man U as they don't have any, but they would have to give him total backing and let him be the main man.

You expect the INEOS lot to make a big deal out of the recruitment process, big up what they are doing and then it all go to s**t, if you are stupid enough to pay what they did for 27% and running football operations while the Glazers still take money out then its hard to have faith in them.
 
Oxymoron said:
talksport.com

Man United reach verbal agreement with Ruben Amorim, who is set to TREBLE wages

Ruben Amorim has verbally agreed to join Manchester United from Sporting Lisbon, Amorim quickly emerged as United’s top target after Erik ten Hag was axed on Monday morning. talkSPORT underst…
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So young, well-regarded and zero experience outside of the Portuguese league. Never managed in a top league, in international football and has never made waves in the CL (Mourinho was obviously in the same situation a couple of decades ago except he had at least won the CL with frickin' Porto!)

So basically exactly the same background as Ten Hag, just Portuguese instead of Dutch......

What could possibly go wrong?
 
tonyw said:
So young, well-regarded and zero experience outside of the Portuguese league. Never managed in a top league, in international football and has never made waves in the CL (Mourinho was obviously in the same situation a couple of decades ago except he had at least won the CL with frickin' Porto!)

So basically exactly the same background as Ten Hag, just Portuguese instead of Dutch......

What could possibly go wrong?
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The Portuguese league is considerably better than the Dutch league that’s for sure. Sporting record this season is 9 wins from 9, 30 goals scored and just 2 conceded - that’s impressive anywhere. United could have landed on their feet with this one. The Sporting DOF is about to take over at City and Amorim has been touted as the one to follow Pep eventually but you never know that could become a poisoned chalice in much the same way the United job has post Ferguson.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
The Portuguese league is considerably better than the Dutch league that’s for sure. Sporting record this season is 9 wins from 9, 30 goals scored and just 2 conceded - that’s impressive anywhere. United could have landed on their feet with this one. The Sporting DOF is about to take over at City and Amorim has been touted as the one to follow Pep eventually but you never know that could become a poisoned chalice in much the same way the United job has post Ferguson.
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Took a few hours but it wasn’t long before you managed to comment on this thread Baldy and big him up 😂

Any reason why you still refer to Man United as United like they are the only one? Especially when you support Oxford UNITED.
 
Steve Gilbert said:
Took a few hours but it wasn’t long before you managed to comment on this thread Baldy and big him up 😂

Any reason why you still refer to Man United as United like they are the only one? Especially when you support Oxford UNITED.
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I’ll ignore the first paragraph as I have no idea what you’re on about - something funny I’m assuming?

As for your other point, I call Manchester City ‘City’ and I’ve always called Manchester United ‘United’. I’ve always referred to Bristol Rovers as ‘Rovers’ - I suppose that’s a bit disrespectful to Blackburn and Doncaster but hey ho!
 
£15m to pay off the old manager (recently given a twelve month extension), and a rumoured £10m to buy out the contract of the new manager. No wonder that are such a basket case of a club.
Ten Haag was always going to go, but the VAR decision v West Ham was a harsh final nail in his coffin.
 
andystroud said:
£15m to pay off the old manager (recently given a twelve month extension), and a rumoured £10m to buy out the contract of the new manager. No wonder that are such a basket case of a club.
Ten Haag was always going to go, but the VAR decision v West Ham was a harsh final nail in his coffin.
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I remember once saying on here that we have the worst referees, across the top leagues, in Europe and others were saying that’s rubbish. It is very odd how the highest profile league is overseen by officials unfit to officiate. You had supposedly the best we have, Michael Oliver, sitting in a van with every piece of gadgetry available to man and he still deems that a penalty - incredible! And it’s not like it’s an isolated incident. More funds have to be made available to attract the best from Europe, the US, Saudi etc. The imbalance between the product and those overseeing it is the greatest it’s ever been.
 
SteMerritt said:
City play in blue and white hoops, United play in yellow and blue.
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It’s odd why people get wound up by this. Surely calling Oxford United ‘Oxford’ is better than referring to them as ‘United’ - United, City, Rovers, Albion etc is just a name tagged on to the main identity name. I’m proud to say I support ‘Oxford’, I’d hate to refer to us as ‘United’, it gives no identity and has no feeling or meaning. As for Oxford City, well I couldn’t care less about them.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
It’s odd why people get wound up by this. Surely calling Oxford United ‘Oxford’ is better than referring to them as ‘United’ - United, City, Rovers, Albion etc is just a name tagged on to the main identity name. I’m proud to say I support ‘Oxford’, I’d hate to refer to us as ‘United’, it gives no identity and has no feeling or meaning. As for Oxford City, well I couldn’t care less about them.
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Referring to Man United as United comes across as they are the only one.
I wouldn’t expect a Man United fan to understand it though.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
It’s odd why people get wound up by this. Surely calling Oxford United ‘Oxford’ is better than referring to them as ‘United’ - United, City, Rovers, Albion etc is just a name tagged on to the main identity name. I’m proud to say I support ‘Oxford’, I’d hate to refer to us as ‘United’, it gives no identity and has no feeling or meaning. As for Oxford City, well I couldn’t care less about them.
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It is odd why people insist on calling the Manchester clubs 'City' and 'United', especially on the forum of a 'United' when they know it annoys people. And it is even sadder that people fall into the big club hype when they apparently have no affiliation to the Manchester clubs. But the saddest of all is calling out people on the forum of another 'United' for objecting to this.
 
Grumpy Git said:
An English manager for an English club.
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Who have players from all over the world, as there are no restrictions on who they can pick, and compete across Europe (sometimes).

It's not at all the same. I think managers should have to fit the same criteria as players, international sport should be about the best that country can produce. If we can't produce good managers, and I don't think we've got anyone close to Tuchel, then we have to make do with what we do have. No different to having to play a slightly inferior player at left wing if you don't have anyone else there, or of the current team Pickford is probably a decent example. He's been decent for England but he's hardly in the conversation when you're talking top 10 keepers in the world. We've got no one better so that's tough, as it should be.
 
SteMerritt said:
It is odd why people insist on calling the Manchester clubs 'City' and 'United', especially on the forum of a 'United' when they know it annoys people. And it is even sadder that people fall into the big club hype when they apparently have no affiliation to the Manchester clubs. But the saddest of all is calling out people on the forum of another 'United' for objecting to this.
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With respect, what a load of absolute rubbish. I’m not calling people out, I’m saying refer to our club as ‘Oxford’ and be proud of it. You seem to want us to be the only ‘United’ when clearly there are loads of other ‘United’s’ - there’s only one Oxford though. It’s a very bizarre thought process you have about this.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
With respect, what a load of absolute rubbish. I’m not calling people out, I’m saying refer to our club as ‘Oxford’ and be proud of it. You seem to want us to be the only ‘United’ when clearly there are loads of other ‘United’s’ - there’s only one Oxford though. It’s a very bizarre thought process you have about this.
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Nice attempt at gaslighting.

No, I don't want us to be the only 'United', there are lots of 'Uniteds' in English football. And that is exactly the point. As we are on an Oxford forum it is much more relevant for 'United' to be Oxford United, and 'City' to be Oxford City, I wouldn't refer to us as 'United' on another teams forum, and rarely refer to us as 'United' at all.
 
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