- Year of First Game
- 1998
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Current Player Louie Sibley
- Thread starter Northstandboy
- Start date
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
This is the ruthlessness we need to ensure players are up to the mark and that nobody is indispensable. I think most of us had him nailed on to be making the match day squad at least when we signed him and that is what should be happening if the club is moving forwards. Had an injury (or two?) and possibly timing of his unavailability has also gone against him along with having to impress 2 managers. The club needs to carry on moving forward and we have a player who is not in the immediate plans for the manager but needs some game time to prove his worth.
It works both ways but I hope Sibley is only on a one year deal with an option for the club to extend so that he is not a burden if he continues to (to put it politely) carry on being unlucky. Also for him he might find more playing time and feel better about things himself.
I think there are quite a few potentially out of contract at the end of the season and we will soon find out how cute the club have been if we stay up and if certain players are deemed surplus to requirements. You can start to see now how the timing of letting Des go and the blistering start under Rowett has allowed us to do things at a relentless pace. You make your own luck in this game and I feel we have been incredibly fortunate with our decision making at the top level.
The club gets a lot of basic stuff wrong and a bit of justifiable stick from fans but my goodness on the pitch the last 2 months they have absolutely smashed it to the same level as that win at Wembley.
It works both ways but I hope Sibley is only on a one year deal with an option for the club to extend so that he is not a burden if he continues to (to put it politely) carry on being unlucky. Also for him he might find more playing time and feel better about things himself.
I think there are quite a few potentially out of contract at the end of the season and we will soon find out how cute the club have been if we stay up and if certain players are deemed surplus to requirements. You can start to see now how the timing of letting Des go and the blistering start under Rowett has allowed us to do things at a relentless pace. You make your own luck in this game and I feel we have been incredibly fortunate with our decision making at the top level.
The club gets a lot of basic stuff wrong and a bit of justifiable stick from fans but my goodness on the pitch the last 2 months they have absolutely smashed it to the same level as that win at Wembley.
carefreeoufc
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Remember looking at the Derby forum when he signed for us and they weren't crying over him signing for us. Good luck to him, hope he impresses and perhaps finds a move to someone in L1 next summer.
I think it's unfair to judge Waldron et al. on some of the signings that haven't worked out this season (those that were signed in the summer). We were nailed on favourites by all of the bookies to go down. We have a lower wage budget than many teams and we needed a lot of players! It's not surprising we ended up with a few that couldn't cut it, they were the ones willing to come to us. Sibley is one of those and was probably pleased a newly promoted Championship club was interested. Had it not been us, I suspect he'd have been looking to L1.
I think it's unfair to judge Waldron et al. on some of the signings that haven't worked out this season (those that were signed in the summer). We were nailed on favourites by all of the bookies to go down. We have a lower wage budget than many teams and we needed a lot of players! It's not surprising we ended up with a few that couldn't cut it, they were the ones willing to come to us. Sibley is one of those and was probably pleased a newly promoted Championship club was interested. Had it not been us, I suspect he'd have been looking to L1.
I feel like we were always going to offload either Sibley or El Miz. Really doesn't make sense to hold on to both of them, when they're no better than the 3rd or 4th choices for any particular position in the team.
For all that Evans is a cheat and a bully, he's also (finally) got Rotherham playing this season, so could be a good time for Sibley to join them, and I think he'll do well there.
Not sure, from what we've seen, that he's necessarily got the skill set to make it as a Championship player, mind. But a crucial goal he got us at Pompey!
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
That goal could be so important at the end of the season!
Sibley’s Oxford career is a strange one. He reminds me very much of that Donny van der Beek in English football - even looks a bit like him ! I recall a cup game earlier this season - Peterborough at home perhaps - where he had a really decent game, or at least a half, but perhaps there’s the crux of it, L1 opposition. He’s clearly got a bit of talent, looked a very good player at Derby (again, mainly in L1), but for whatever reason he just can’t make any impact.
He looks like a 14/15 year old in men’s football, running around a bit aimlessly, wafting a leg out here and there in an attempt to make a tackle, just generally weak in every aspect of the game. There seems no zest, no aggression, no desire in anything he does on a football pitch. Unless he rips up L1 and returns with his reputation seriously enhanced I think we’ve seen the last of him as an Oxford player.
He looks like a 14/15 year old in men’s football, running around a bit aimlessly, wafting a leg out here and there in an attempt to make a tackle, just generally weak in every aspect of the game. There seems no zest, no aggression, no desire in anything he does on a football pitch. Unless he rips up L1 and returns with his reputation seriously enhanced I think we’ve seen the last of him as an Oxford player.
Golden Dr Otto
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
No aggression???? What have you been smoking ?
Yes, no aggression. Weak, very weak. You’re mistaking a yellow card for mis-timed tackles as aggression.
Golden Dr Otto
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Ok. Think I’ll agree to disagree on this one baldy. Not sure how you’re defining weak but I’m not on the same page unless you’re saying he’ll lose an arm wrestle to helik
m
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
"Cheers for the starter, where's the main?"
All of that really comes under the confidence umbrella. He looks like that’s gone when I’ve watched him and that’s what a lack of minutes will do and being unfancied by 2 managers now.
Perfect move for him and for all the crap we throw at Steve Evans, he’s a good manager at that level who won’t pull any punches. That might give Sibley some life back in his legs as I agree with you, he looks a bit feeble, but I don’t think that’s what he is, just how he’s playing.
If you watch his best days back, he’s a good ball carrier, powerful and a wicked left foot. But in yellow this season he’s looked frozen. Needs to go and get his self belief back and we may have a player there.
Steve Gilbert
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Do you only ever use ex Man U players when you compare players?
- Year of First Game
- 1980
I had to Google who the player was, of course first image was of him in a Man U shirt...Do you only ever use ex Man U players when you compare players?
Manorlounger
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
Can you believe it, on his debut and after just 2 minutes, he's scored for Rotherham!
RECALL HIM IMMEDIATELY!
TobyDavis34
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
- Year of First Game
- 1994
It’s because he downed tools in a yellow shirt. No surprise that he’s scored for Rotherham.
Do you only ever use ex Man U players when you compare players?
You - and one or two others - seem to be the obsessed ones, constantly bringing Manchester United into it. In this instance I don’t think I mentioned any club, just the player. I think there’s striking similarities between the two and their relative struggles at a step up in level. While I’m at it, and just to correct you, I compared the crossing of Goodrham with that of a Brazilian winger the other day. If I was as obsessed with MU as you appear to be I’m fairly sure I could have found an example somewhere from Best to Beckham to Ronaldo to quote instead.
Steve Gilbert
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
I think you protest a bit too muchYou - and one or two others - seem to be the obsessed ones, constantly bringing Manchester United into it. In this instance I don’t think I mentioned any club, just the player. I think there’s striking similarities between the two and their relative struggles at a step up in level. While I’m at it, and just to correct you, I compared the crossing of Goodrham with that of a Brazilian winger the other day. If I was as obsessed with MU as you appear to be I’m fairly sure I could have found an example somewhere from Best to Beckham to Ronaldo to quote instead.
I don't think you'd pick out Ronaldo for his crossing. He's great at it, as most things, but I don't think anyone would consider it his star quality. DBecks, on the other hand, yes. Crosses, cross-field passes and free-kicks. Hated that all those ManUre glory hunters at school got to claim him as one of their own (especially as he's a Londoner) but by god what a player he was to watch.You - and one or two others - seem to be the obsessed ones, constantly bringing Manchester United into it. In this instance I don’t think I mentioned any club, just the player. I think there’s striking similarities between the two and their relative struggles at a step up in level. While I’m at it, and just to correct you, I compared the crossing of Goodrham with that of a Brazilian winger the other day. If I was as obsessed with MU as you appear to be I’m fairly sure I could have found an example somewhere from Best to Beckham to Ronaldo to quote instead.
That said, I'm not sure anyone would compare Tyler to him. Regardless of quality, they are totally different types of player.
As for Sibley, wish him luck. Felt like he never quite found his feet, and rushed around a bit trying to make an impact, possibly to prove a point that he should be given a place, when perhaps a calmer, more calculated approach is what was needed in the side. Perhaps League One is indeed his level.
I think you’ll find when Ronaldo first came to this country he was played wide. If you want to be picky though replace Ronaldo with Giggs in my example.
Scored again tonight v Wycombe
Mateo Corbo's Tackle
Level: Jack Midson
(68 Apps, 15 Gls)
He wasn’t very good, though. Hesitant, caught in possession, poor touch on a number of occasions, generally anonymous.
Rotherham as a team as so lethargic and predictable. Then you look at their manager and you remember why.
Osleroad
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
The lead didn't last either did it and he was on the bench-for me always a walking red card but fair striker of the ball.
Daviddidcotexile
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Yes interesting he doesn't make the start. Shows he is just missing something
I’m surprised he’s credited with that goal, looked a clear own goal from the Wycombe keeper.
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
He did seem a level up from what we already had when he came in. As disappointing as he was this is how gradual strengthening usually works for a club of our size at this level.
He’s another to be sold or loaned out next season
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
No he didn’t as it turned out but many of us thought this looks a good signing when he came to the club having played at this level before and still relatively young. To be honest if we keep him next season we will be in trouble. We need an upgrade on him and probably Matt Phillips too.
