Current Player Loan players

Scant

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Sorry if this has been covered already. With the situation as it is at the moment & there being no sign of the season re-starting. What would be the situation with our loan players when (if) the season was to re-start? Would they all have to go back to there clubs? If not would Holland be fit?, if so would he be allowed back?
 

Ian

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They can't restart the leagues if teams lose their loan players.
 

Scotchegg

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The question was answered as part of the OxVox Q&A with the finance man - loanees are contracted until the end of the season, whenever that may be. If this season finished now, then they would all return to their clubs. If the final 9 games were possible, then, in theory our squad remains the same. However, in regard to Nathan Holland, he will need specialist support as well as rest so is probably unlikely to return anytime soon.
 

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I haven’t seen the OxVox Forum so forgive me asking you to reiterate.

But (whilst almost all of this is unprecedented) there would surely be some circumstances in which this couldn’t be legally enforceable..?

Our own (sic) Matt Taylor being a great example. He (and he wouldn’t be unique) doesn’t have a contract beyond the end of June 2020, so there is no employer legally obliged to pay, insure or medically treat him.

Did the OxVox forum conclude that Bristol City FC would be responsible for this indefinitely or until the season is officially void? Which may be for many more months of wages, if there are plans to complete beyond the scheduled start of season 20-21. Would Oxford United FC still be responsible for their percentage of that wage indefinitely too?

If the FA defer voiding the season until well past the end of June, but by Sept-Oct it becomes inevitable and is finally abandoned...what then for the clubs who’ve paid additional wages for players they wouldn’t otherwise have been contracted to pay? Obviously insurance plays a role, but some smaller clubs could go to the breadline if enduring loan deals are enforced.

I also doubt the credibility of completing a season when every single club competing will have a substantially different squad make-up. (Appreciate that happens every summer at the end of the season, but it’s not quite the same is it..?)
 

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I believe that the efl and pfa have agreed that all current contracts will be honoured until the end of this season. We are still 12 weeks away from the end of June when contracts would have naturally concluded, and the situation could change significantly by then. But my guess would be that a plan would need to be in place to be able to complete the final couple of months of this season in a reasonable time frame, or the decision will be taken to finish this season without anymore games being played (however that happens).

So in a nut shell, IF this season can reasonably be concluded by say July/August then all contracts, loans, insurance etc will be extended to cover this period. If, as looking more likely, there is no safe way to complete the season during the summer, then finish this season as we are, and prepare for a new season when possible.

I would guess that bridging payments will be put in place to support players out of contract at the end of June but unable to sign new deals due to this situation.
 

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I believe that the efl and pfa have agreed that all current contracts will be honoured until the end of this season. We are still 12 weeks away from the end of June when contracts would have naturally concluded, and the situation could change significantly by then. But my guess would be that a plan would need to be in place to be able to complete the final couple of months of this season in a reasonable time frame, or the decision will be taken to finish this season without anymore games being played (however that happens).

So in a nut shell, IF this season can reasonably be concluded by say July/August then all contracts, loans, insurance etc will be extended to cover this period. If, as looking more likely, there is no safe way to complete the season during the summer, then finish this season as we are, and prepare for a new season when possible.

I would guess that bridging payments will be put in place to support players out of contract at the end of June but unable to sign new deals due to this situation.
this is the chappy needed to definitively sort the loans situation ;) ...

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Foley

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I believe that the efl and pfa have agreed that all current contracts will be honoured until the end of this season. We are still 12 weeks away from the end of June when contracts would have naturally concluded, and the situation could change significantly by then. But my guess would be that a plan would need to be in place to be able to complete the final couple of months of this season in a reasonable time frame, or the decision will be taken to finish this season without anymore games being played (however that happens).

So in a nut shell, IF this season can reasonably be concluded by say July/August then all contracts, loans, insurance etc will be extended to cover this period. If, as looking more likely, there is no safe way to complete the season during the summer, then finish this season as we are, and prepare for a new season when possible.

I would guess that bridging payments will be put in place to support players out of contract at the end of June but unable to sign new deals due to this situation.
You say complete the final 2 months of the season but I suspect that there would be 4 to 5 weeks of 2 games a week, so L1 could be all over in 5 weeks ( I am assuming that there will be no play offs)
 

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You say complete the final 2 months of the season but I suspect that there would be 4 to 5 weeks of 2 games a week, so L1 could be all over in 5 weeks ( I am assuming that there will be no play offs)
IF, and of course no one knows the answers, but if the season was to complete then there would be the argument to complete all games as we would. Taking the playoffs out could be just as unfair as finishing now. And we also have to take into account that players would have had several weeks without games or proper training sessions. To play 9 games in 4 or 5 weeks after such a layoff could significantly increase injuries.

There are no simply answers to what is a hugely difficult and ever changing problem.
 

ZeroTheHero

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TBH, the way things are going, I'd be delighted (on the footballing front, there are more important things) to be watching live football in person before Christmas, with all the FL clubs and below managing to survive. Whether that is to finish the old season off, to start a new one or to try to fit both in (ideally) - although that is looking increasingly unlikely - who knows. I hope whatever 'solution' is eventually put into place it is the one that means the clubs have the best chance to get some money in, they'll need it.
 

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