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[Morris Oxford]

Just supposition on my part, but possibly it took a while for OxVox to hear from all the people they felt it necessary to speak to before issuing their statement.

The OxVox email dated Thursday 12th December sent out to members says this,

‘Having had a difficult time catching up with Adam Benson and the marketing team last week, we managed to speak to both Grant Ferguson and Adam late on Tuesday’

‘Also the club must ensure that where there is overlap between our work and that of OUSP that they offer a similar access to both groups without simply taking the path of least resistance in each instance’

So we know OxVox were eventually given access to and spoke with GF & AB on Tuesday 10th December.


The ousp statement was made available on these boards on Wednesday 4th December.

It would be interesting to know WHO @OUSP spoke to from the club and WHEN.

 

[Littlemore Local]

Is it me or is this the third new SLO announcement this season?

I laughed when the club tagged the OUFCSLO account on twitter and then saw that account has been dead since June. That sums it up for me. Zero engagement. Zero consultation. Zero connection. I can't see that changing.

I'm sure we'll hear more cliches about how important fans are after the match.

 

[BillyTurleys CurlyWurly]

The OxVox email dated Thursday 12th December sent out to members says this,

‘Having had a difficult time catching up with Adam Benson and the marketing team last week, we managed to speak to both Grant Ferguson and Adam late on Tuesday’

‘Also the club must ensure that where there is overlap between our work and that of OUSP that they offer a similar access to both groups without simply taking the path of least resistance in each instance’

So we know OxVox were eventually given access to and spoke with GF & AB on Tuesday 10th December.


The ousp statement was made available on these boards on Wednesday 4th December.

It would be interesting to know WHO @OUSP spoke to from the club and WHEN.

All starting to make sense now.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Feel for the lad, he is going to feel the wrath of a load of peculiar middle aged men with awful opinions fairly often in that job, it doesn’t amount to much more than being moaning on here but still.

I disagree with that, if done well then it can dampen some unrest if things are addressed and communicated in a timely manner.
As a fan base all we want is some communication and transparency.
Right now the club are doing things and if questioned then we get treated like lemmings and told that we should just suck it up as the people in charge have decades of experience.

Hopefully this SLO can change that. At the end of the day they are starting from a very low bar in regards to fan communication.

 

[Morris Oxford]

The OxVox email dated Thursday 12th December sent out to members says this,

‘Having had a difficult time catching up with Adam Benson and the marketing team last week, we managed to speak to both Grant Ferguson and Adam late on Tuesday’

‘Also the club must ensure that where there is overlap between our work and that of OUSP that they offer a similar access to both groups without simply taking the path of least resistance in each instance’

So we know OxVox were eventually given access to and spoke with GF & AB on Tuesday 10th December.


The ousp statement was made available on these boards on Wednesday 4th December.

It would be interesting to know WHO @OUSP spoke to from the club and WHEN.

Anyone from @OUSP willing to reveal WHO you spoke to from the club and WHEN?

 

[Essexyellows]

The new SLO will already be pally with OUSP......... note Mr E blowing smoke up his arris already.

It is about as obvious as being slapped with a wet fish that the club construct gets the access to enable them to dampen any fires or issues when the customers rightly call things out.

Meanwhile OxVox have to wait a prolonged period of time for the same access making them look less representative and the club construct all "engaging and marvellous".

You know.......... like folk predicted would happen.

 

[Scotchegg]

The new SLO will already be pally with OUSP......... note Mr E blowing smoke up his arris already.

It is about as obvious as being slapped with a wet fish that the club construct gets the access to enable them to dampen any fires or issues when the customers rightly call things out.

Meanwhile OxVox have to wait a prolonged period of time for the same access making them look less representative and the club construct all "engaging and marvellous".

You know.......... like folk predicted would happen.

You seem to know so much, yet so very little.

 

[dickwalton1964]

You seem to know so much, yet so very little.

You really are such a condescending individual - there’s another word I could use but save risking a ban. Any one who disagrees with your opinion or calls you out and it’s a stock reply from you. Try debating for once.

 

[Scotchegg]

You really are such a condescending individual - there’s another word I could use but save risking a ban. Any one who disagrees with your opinion or calls you out and it’s a stock reply from you. Try debating for once.

You may wish to consider that one has been directly involved with this, and one has been griping from the sidelines since OUSP was established.

I'm very happy with what I know, and what others don't.

 

[Essexyellows]

You seem to know so much, yet so very little.

OUSP have prime access to people in the club.

OUSP is a club construct.

OUSP`s existence sidelines any other supporters group.

Now answer the question raised by others as to who was spoken to and when............. play the subject not the man, you aren`t at work.

 

[Morris Oxford]

OUSP have prime access to people in the club.

OUSP is a club construct.

OUSP`s existence sidelines any other supporters group.

Now answer the question raised by others as to who was spoken to and when............. play the subject not the man, you aren`t at work.

I suspect we’ll have to wait until after the ousp meeting tomorrow before getting a response, it’s a devilish difficult question and will need consultation on how best to answer it.

 

[Morris Oxford]

The OxVox email dated Thursday 12th December sent out to members says this,

‘Having had a difficult time catching up with Adam Benson and the marketing team last week, we managed to speak to both Grant Ferguson and Adam late on Tuesday’

‘Also the club must ensure that where there is overlap between our work and that of OUSP that they offer a similar access to both groups without simply taking the path of least resistance in each instance’

So we know OxVox were eventually given access to and spoke with GF & AB on Tuesday 10th December.


The ousp statement was made available on these boards on Wednesday 4th December.

It would be interesting to know WHO @OUSP spoke to from the club and WHEN.

Anyone from @OUSP willing to reveal WHO you spoke to from the club and WHEN?


Third time lucky of asking.

 

[Essexyellows]

Anyone from @OUSP willing to reveal WHO you spoke to from the club and WHEN?


Third time lucky of asking.

They won`t...... you`ll need to e-mail it in as it "gets lost in multiple posts" ......

A bit like "How many are on the mailing list".

Whilst they are "active" on this forum they don`t like questions.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

They won`t...... you`ll need to e-mail it in as it "gets lost in multiple posts" ......

A bit like "How many are on the mailing list".

Whilst they are "active" on this forum they don`t like questions.

Must be a fans group thing as I’m still waiting for answer from the questions that I asked OxVox…

 

[Up The Manor]

Must be a fans group thing as I’m still waiting for answer from the questions that I asked OxVox…

You get a quicker answer asking Tim & Grant via email .

 

[Morris Oxford]

The OxVox email dated Thursday 12th December sent out to members says this,

‘Having had a difficult time catching up with Adam Benson and the marketing team last week, we managed to speak to both Grant Ferguson and Adam late on Tuesday’

‘Also the club must ensure that where there is overlap between our work and that of OUSP that they offer a similar access to both groups without simply taking the path of least resistance in each instance’

So we know OxVox were eventually given access to and spoke with GF & AB on Tuesday 10th December.


The ousp statement was made available on these boards on Wednesday 4th December.

It would be interesting to know WHO @OUSP spoke to from the club and WHEN.

In the lull before the storm of our new manager being announced is there anyone from @OUSP willing to reveal WHO you spoke to from the club and WHEN?

A simple, easy question to acknowledge and answer.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Carpy]

In the lull before the storm of our new manager being announced is there anyone from @OUSP willing to reveal WHO you spoke to from the club and WHEN?

A simple, easy question to acknowledge and answer.

Thanks in advance.

Pissing in the wind

 

[Morris Oxford]

Pissing in the wind

Yes, you’re probably right.


By the fans, for the fans……..

 

[Essexyellows]

Yes, you’re probably right.


By the fans, for the fans……..

Careful a representative will be along shortly to berate you............. and not answer the question.

Shouldn`t it be........... By the Club, for the Club ?

 

[38yearsofpain]

In the lull before the storm of our new manager being announced is there anyone from @OUSP willing to reveal WHO you spoke to from the club and WHEN?

A simple, easy question to acknowledge and answer.

Thanks in advance.

I will answer for them. We only respond to simple easy or good news responses. Difficult, arkward or confrontationl answers to questions are outside the remit given to us by the club.

 

[werthersoriginal]

I will answer for them. We only respond to simple easy or good news responses. Difficult, arkward or confrontationl answers to questions are outside the remit given to us by the club.

God the mithering on here

 

[Scotchegg]

I've missed the last couple of pages on this thread with everything else that's been happening so apologise.

The situation regarding Leeds tickets first came to light on Monday 2nd December I believe, and OUSP made contact with the club straight away. We have a communication strategy that means that the Chair or Secretary will usually first contact the Supporters Liaison Officer as the first point of contact, or go to the head of the relevant department where appropriate, in this case Lee Barton (ticketing), Adam Benson (Marketing) and Ryan Maher (Media/Comms). I was not directly involved in these conversations in an OUSP capacity, but my understanding is that all were spoken to prior to the statement being produced by OUSP on 6th December.

In a personal capacity and on behalf of friends who have missed out on tickets, I also contacted Lee Barton. Initially I was hopeful that there may have been an opportunity to revisit the allocation, and I believe this coincided with the club requesting an increased allocation, but not the full 3000. It then became evident that there would be no further allocation.

I would ask anyone to read any of my previous posts on this thread to determine whether they think that I am a mouthpiece for the club? I have stated on numerous occasions that I believe that they made the wrong decision and should have had more confidence in our fanbase to sell out the away end. I also think that communication has been awful, and whilst I understand the concerns raised about OUSP and OxVox releasing statements before/instead of the club, we also have a duty to share what information we have obtained.

There was a meeting of OUSP on Monday night with several members of OxVox in attendance. Whilst not looking specifically at the Leeds situation it was helpful to look at the issues we are individually working on and those where there is joint working. It was really positive and made me realise that there are a number of people all working hard on behalf of supporters now and for the future.

There seems to be more desire to cause divisions from some on here than is experienced between both supporter groups and many of those that I speak to. You can not please everyone and I appreciate there will always be those who are against the idea of a Supporters Panel, and that is their choice. But with so many things happening on and off the pitch at the moment, I think that it is more important than ever to stick together and work with the club, including challenging it where appropriate, for the benefit of all.

 

[Morris Oxford]

I've missed the last couple of pages on this thread with everything else that's been happening so apologise.

The situation regarding Leeds tickets first came to light on Monday 2nd December I believe, and OUSP made contact with the club straight away. We have a communication strategy that means that the Chair or Secretary will usually first contact the Supporters Liaison Officer as the first point of contact, or go to the head of the relevant department where appropriate, in this case Lee Barton (ticketing), Adam Benson (Marketing) and Ryan Maher (Media/Comms). I was not directly involved in these conversations in an OUSP capacity, but my understanding is that all were spoken to prior to the statement being produced by OUSP on 6th December.

In a personal capacity and on behalf of friends who have missed out on tickets, I also contacted Lee Barton. Initially I was hopeful that there may have been an opportunity to revisit the allocation, and I believe this coincided with the club requesting an increased allocation, but not the full 3000. It then became evident that there would be no further allocation.

I would ask anyone to read any of my previous posts on this thread to determine whether they think that I am a mouthpiece for the club? I have stated on numerous occasions that I believe that they made the wrong decision and should have had more confidence in our fanbase to sell out the away end. I also think that communication has been awful, and whilst I understand the concerns raised about OUSP and OxVox releasing statements before/instead of the club, we also have a duty to share what information we have obtained.

There was a meeting of OUSP on Monday night with several members of OxVox in attendance. Whilst not looking specifically at the Leeds situation it was helpful to look at the issues we are individually working on and those where there is joint working. It was really positive and made me realise that there are a number of people all working hard on behalf of supporters now and for the future.

There seems to be more desire to cause divisions from some on here than is experienced between both supporter groups and many of those that I speak to. You can not please everyone and I appreciate there will always be those who are against the idea of a Supporters Panel, and that is their choice. But with so many things happening on and off the pitch at the moment, I think that it is more important than ever to stick together and work with the club, including challenging it where appropriate, for the benefit of all.

Thank you for the reply.

So OUSP were given access to Adam Benson by the club before 6th December, possibly as early as the 2nd December.

Oxvox say they had a difficult time getting hold of Adam Benson for the whole of that week, but they finally managed to speak to him on 10th December.

OxVox then observe they are not getting the same access to club as OUSP. Assuming the above and dates are true, OxVox probably have a fair complaint.

 

[Scotchegg]

* Edit to my previous post

Correction to my original post, I was mistaken in assuming that Adam Benson was part of the discussions between OUSP and the club. He was NOT spoken to by anyone from OUSP prior to OxVox speaking with him the following week.

The discussions were instead with Lee Barton, Ryan Maher and Aaron Knightley SLO. Having already put out a statement to say that the game was sold out, the club were not looking to make further comms. It was therefore on the 4th December (not 6th as previously posted) that OUSP put out a statement to explain the situation at that time.

I apologise for getting these details wrong.

 

[Berliner]

Having already put out a statement to say that the game was sold out, the club were not looking to make further comms.

 

[Essexyellows]

Thank you for the reply.

So OUSP were given access to Adam Benson by the club before 6th December, possibly as early as the 2nd December.

Oxvox say they had a difficult time getting hold of Adam Benson for the whole of that week, but they finally managed to speak to him on 10th December.

OxVox then observe they are not getting the same access to club as OUSP. Assuming the above and dates are true, OxVox probably have a fair complaint.

It was the whole idea from the offset.............. divide and conquer the "customers", nullify the largest representative group.

If only we had a single, united and democratic voice then these issues would not happen.