League One Weekly Wages 2017-18

That shows the average weekly wage, not the total spent, so it's even more impressive when you consider the size of our squad. I suspect we did have a top 6 budget.

Millwall and Preston did extremely well in the Championship.
 
Where have they got the figues for player wages though? Can't imagine they have a solid source, and without that it all seems a bit pointless
 
Bury are pretty bad as well.

Much respect due to Shrewsbury though.

If the research is accurate, 3rd position with the 3rd lowest wage bill. Growing evidence that Paul Hurst may be an outstanding manager......
I understand he had an excellent track record in non-league. Worked his up. Respect.
 
Much respect for Daryl as well looks like he did try to give us that top 6 buget he talked about. And although not backed with transfer fees it shows how poor Pep was in wasting it.
I agree. Well done DE. Pity he hired the wrong man to spend it. DE to blame, not Pep.
 
1) KR and Charlton had 2nd highest budget. CAFC were not 2nd in the league when KR was head hunted by Tiger. Erm. Interesting.

2) Excellent seasons Brentford, Millwall, Preston and CW. Just shows what a good manager he is and how IMO unfairly treated by the majority of our fans. I understand he was never backed and had to rely on loans etc...

3) The numbers suggest that a strong dressing room, is more important than a "rich" dressing room.
 
Astonishing how Accrington performed on the lowest wage bill in L2. Assuming they will not be able to increase the money much in L1 then Coleman will need to work incredibly hard to keep them up next season.
 
I've been very loosely following the exploits of the Cowley bros @ Lincoln City this season. Their Chairman claimed that reaching the playoffs was exceptional as they estimated that they had the 15th/16th largest budget in L2. This table shows them as the 2nd highest spender. Questionable data?
 
Where have they got the figues for player wages though? Can't imagine they have a solid source, and without that it all seems a bit pointless
METHODOLOGY

For the 20 Premier League clubs, we took average weekly salary figures from the 2017 Global Sports Salary Survey. For the 72 EFL clubs, we looked at weekly wage data from the 2018 edition of Football Manager, taking an average of each team’s first team squad’s weekly earnings. The data from the game has been applauded on numerous occasions for its accuracy, and is even a recognised scouting system for clubs, as a result of their 1,300 researchers across the globe.
 
METHODOLOGY

For the 20 Premier League clubs, we took average weekly salary figures from the 2017 Global Sports Salary Survey. For the 72 EFL clubs, we looked at weekly wage data from the 2018 edition of Football Manager, taking an average of each team’s first team squad’s weekly earnings. The data from the game has been applauded on numerous occasions for its accuracy, and is even a recognised scouting system for clubs, as a result of their 1,300 researchers across the globe.

I’m afraid that methodology cannot be trusted. Shame. It was interesting for a bit
 
When you have a top 6 budget you ought to be going for the playoffs and be making a push for it. If not, it makes sense to consolidate and build a war chest. For some this takes a year or two. For other teams they have to save for 10 years to have a serious push. They wont tell us that of course. 90% of the teams in L1 cant realistically challenge every year so if we have a year like last year where outside the top 2 none were really geared up to go up and horribly inconsistent, we get a Shrewsbury outcome who have "done a Leicester". Not sure that makes their manager Sir Alex though. I heard there are serious concerns about whether they will be able to go up, even if they win the play off, because of their ground?. They also dont have the clout to challenge or stay up and so will come straight back down. I would wager that next year is one of consolidation for us, getting rid of the in not good enough in-contract players and rebuilding from the ground up, with players on 3 year deals, with a view to then seeing where we are in the league table budget-wise the year after. It cannot be a 1 year goal for KR to get us to playoffs or better in year 1, from where we are currently, without breaking the bank. Think we will be about 9th or 10th
 
When you have a top 6 budget you ought to be going for the playoffs and be making a push for it. If not, it makes sense to consolidate and build a war chest. For some this takes a year or two. For other teams they have to save for 10 years to have a serious push. They wont tell us that of course. 90% of the teams in L1 cant realistically challenge every year so if we have a year like last year where outside the top 2 none were really geared up to go up and horribly inconsistent, we get a Shrewsbury outcome who have "done a Leicester". Not sure that makes their manager Sir Alex though. I heard there are serious concerns about whether they will be able to go up, even if they win the play off, because of their ground?. They also dont have the clout to challenge or stay up and so will come straight back down. I would wager that next year is one of consolidation for us, getting rid of the in not good enough in-contract players and rebuilding from the ground up, with players on 3 year deals, with a view to then seeing where we are in the league table budget-wise the year after. It cannot be a 1 year goal for KR to get us to playoffs or better in year 1, from where we are currently, without breaking the bank. Think we will be about 9th or 10th
We have to go for it next year. Consolidation won't be good enough. Our best players in there final year if we consolidate there's no chance keeping any of them. We have to hit the play offs minimum.

KR has a nack of high finishes so consolidation won't be good enough for him either. He can easily get us in play offs after 1 year.It's about spending smart not the amount you spend.
 
But isnt that the point? He said they have one year left and he doesnt care either way. That because he needs players who will stay for 3 years as a team to get a good season in, then push for promotion and then have a year where they at least can play together in the Championship until the whole squad is refreshed/improved to Championship level. He made a point of wanting Charlton up to lose another higher budget. Better to sell even the better player with a year left if they dont want another 3 years and move on - although I would break the bank to keep Eastwood. I just hope KR realises how many points a season he has been worth. The rest are replaceable with better players.

Hope you are right of course but we saw against Wigan and Blackburn that we need to upgrade in every position realistically to challenge. Fine margins but they were just that bit better players. Thats what a decent budget gets. If he blows us away with some cracking transfers Im with you but I would have thought if the pockets are bulging money would have been spent by now. I think will be more loanees than transfers, maybe with an option. I think he will tee us up for a "much better season, playing good football, and trying to compete with those with a higher budget". Will be fairly obvious fairly quickly, depending if we get out of the traps or not, whether we can ultimately compete. Fingers crossed. COYY
 
This is all B*****s. Remember Charlie told us that league positions and budget go hand in hand duh.
I think you need both. Big budget with an excellent manager to invest it. aka jim smith and robert maxwell in 80s, dennis smith and robin herd in the 90s. de and mapp, tiger and kr?
 
This is all B*****s. Remember Charlie told us that league positions and budget go hand in hand duh.

The huge correlation is between the finishing position and average gate sizes. Generally very accurate although never a perfect science (Accrington, Shrews) Playing budget is often derived from gate and other revenues so it is loosely right, although as we saw last year, any team can hit a sweet spot/shocking momentum and go from top/bottom. Not sure I would back any of the teams coming down to win it next year despite their budgets, just because they have been so poor. Rather back a team with momentum.
 
The huge correlation is between the finishing position and average gate sizes. Generally very accurate although never a perfect science (Accrington, Shrews) Playing budget is often derived from gate and other revenues so it is loosely right, although as we saw last year, any team can hit a sweet spot/shocking momentum and go from top/bottom. Not sure I would back any of the teams coming down to win it next year despite their budgets, just because they have been so poor. Rather back a team with momentum.
There is a correlation, IF, and its a big f***king IF, you have a very good manger investing the budget AKA Jim Smith/Denis Smith/Mapp/KR.
 
This is all B*****s. Remember Charlie told us that league positions and budget go hand in hand duh.

The huge correlation is between the finishing position and average gate sizes. Generally very accurate although never a perfect science (Accrington, Shrews) Playing budget is often derived from gate and other revenues so it is loosely right, although as we saw last year, any team can hit a sweet spot/shocking momentum and go from top/bottom. Not sure I would back any of the teams coming down to win it next year despite their budgets, just because they have been so poor. Rather back a team with momentum.

I don’t buy the crowd size theory other than it generally correlates to squad budget if comparing to the rest of a league. Though I suppose there is the post factum effect , so if the team is doing well then crowds generally increase.

So I’d probably go for these factors for promotion :-
1. Squad budget
2. Director of Football ability to get the right players
3. Coach ability to get results on the pitch and to manage the players as the gaffer.
4. Players’ bonding to win games / not lose
5. Financial stability of the club.

Get 2-5 right and you should end up where 1 ranks you.

Get even one wrong and it could stuff the season up.
See getting it wrong Chesterfield (5). Oufc 2,3,4 perhaps 5. Bury 4 despite 2. Eastleigh 2,3,4. Forest green 2,3,4. Orient 5.

As predicted Wigan and Blackburn.
Unexpected Accrington probably got 2,3,4,5 right. In the past managers like Westley and Evans get 2,3,4 right with Stevenage and Crawley despite 1. But westley has struggled when players don’t buy into 3 and 4.
And for Sunderland they’ll have to turn around 2,3,4,5.
 
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