League 1 - Bolton, Bury & Coventry

[Navegante]

Comical if it wasn't so tragic https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ctor-chains-herself-to-drainpipe-to-save-club

 

[Sarge]

Comical if it wasn't so tragic https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ctor-chains-herself-to-drainpipe-to-save-club

blimey is part of greater Manchester becoming a suffregette city?

 

[Mellowyellow]

Only one club will be relegated from league two.

Don’t you mean league1?

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Don’t you mean league1?

No 2 will go down from league 1.

 

[Grumpy Git]

Bolton’s manager Parkinson and his Assistant have resigned.

 

[Peterdev]

Dale wants to sell the ground but not for football but houses

 

[greatunclekip]

Sign the Petition

Steve Dale: please accept the offer for Bury Football Club

www.change.org

Please add your name. Every little helps and it could just as easily happen to any EFL club with one dodgy owner.

 

[dannyc]

why is it the efl punish fans and the clubs but the owners who cause the pain get away with it seems to happen all the time now .

 

[Grumpy Git]

Some sort of order needs to be placed on the ground to prevent Dale selling for houses.

 

[holdsteady]

Some sort of order needs to be placed on the ground to prevent Dale selling for houses.

It probably has one but those are easy enough to get round with a bit of money and patience, an unused dilapidated football ground is not going to be left standing for ever.

 

[SteMerritt]

It probably has one but those are easy enough to get round with a bit of money and patience, an unused dilapidated football ground is not going to be left standing for ever.

Unless it's in Aylesbury, I believe the old Aylesbury United ground is still sat decaying after the club being forced out in 2006...

 

[mooro]

I presume it will go down until they get to whatever league admits AFC Bury and AFC Bolton Wanderers for next year...….

Assuming the worst does happen - which is looking more and more likely - then this is the right year to be an atrocious League Two team. Won't be anybody relegated to the conference in 2019-20. Which is a shame, because otherwise we might have gotten rid of Stevenage!

In principle, it cascades all the way down to the bottom of the step structure, however there are certain extra factors to consider.
The normal run of things is that one fewer club goes down rather than one extra goes up.
There could be up to half a dozen other clubs within the top 5 levels of non-league that fold each season, so it is nothing new.
Although efforts have been made to construct a consistent non-league structure across the country, boundaries and club numbers still vary from league to league, so the gap left by a club folding in the EFL, could easily get swallowed up two or three rungs down the ladder, rather than impacting down at the Dog and Duick.
In theory any phoenix club should rejoin at Step 7 of non-league (which is the lowest recognised rung of the pyramid) however, there are additional factors, including the availability of a suitable league in the area &, the potential size of the 'new' club, the size of the league, and the number of clubs eligible to be promoted into that league, which mean that it is not uncommon for clubs to come in at Step 6 or Step 5. For reference, Step 5 is the Hellenic Premier, Step 6 are the hellenic 1 East and West divisions, Step7 is Hellenic2. In our case, for example, both step 6s in our area struggle for numbers, and very few clubs have the grading to go up to Step5, so in all likelihood "PheonOx FC" (as I like to call it), would reform in the Hellenic Premier.

 

[holdsteady]

In principle, it cascades all the way down to the bottom of the step structure, however there are certain extra factors to consider.
The normal run of things is that one fewer club goes down rather than one extra goes up.
There could be up to half a dozen other clubs within the top 5 levels of non-league that fold each season, so it is nothing new.
Although efforts have been made to construct a consistent non-league structure across the country, boundaries and club numbers still vary from league to league, so the gap left by a club folding in the EFL, could easily get swallowed up two or three rungs down the ladder, rather than impacting down at the Dog and Duick.
In theory any phoenix club should rejoin at Step 7 of non-league (which is the lowest recognised rung of the pyramid) however, there are additional factors, including the availability of a suitable league in the area &, the potential size of the 'new' club, the size of the league, and the number of clubs eligible to be promoted into that league, which mean that it is not uncommon for clubs to come in at Step 6 or Step 5. For reference, Step 5 is the Hellenic Premier, Step 6 are the hellenic 1 East and West divisions, Step7 is Hellenic2. In our case, for example, both step 6s in our area struggle for numbers, and very few clubs have the grading to go up to Step5, so in all likelihood "PheonOx FC" (as I like to call it), would reform in the Hellenic Premier.

I never want it to happen but in the worst case scenario of us reforming in non league I think Hellenic prem clubs would struggle to host games against us, with the short travel distance we would take thousands regularly, would the police not have a say as some clubs in the Hellenic are very pretty basic set ups.

 

[holdsteady]

Very late in the day now for someone to come in and save Bury, can’t see it so it looks like a 44 (perhaps less) game season for us now.

Shame to see it happening but it’s better the FL show some balls and get it done (assuming they do) rather than drag it out.

 

[Marked Ox]

Very late in the day now for someone to come in and save Bury, can’t see it so it looks like a 44 (perhaps less) game season for us now.

Shame to see it happening but it’s better the FL show some balls and get it done (assuming they do) rather than drag it out.

Could yet be a 42 game season.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Spare a thought for fans who clubs were relegated last year and are playing in lower leagues when they really should have been given a deadline for June. It's a sad affair where no one is winning.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

Spare a thought for fans who clubs were relegated last year and are playing in lower leagues when they really should have been given a deadline for June. It's a sad affair where no one is winning.

This is a point that has got lost. Bury got promoted and took a place in league 1 when really they should never of been allowed to even start the season. In turn it has meant a team has gone down to League 2 when they should of probably kept their place in league 1 meaning they now have to cope with lower income due to lower crowds and lower income from TV income etc.

 

[MarkG]

This is a point that has got lost. Bury got promoted and took a place in league 1 when really they should never of been allowed to even start the season. In turn it has meant a team has gone down to League 2 when they should of probably kept their place in league 1 meaning they now have to cope with lower income due to lower crowds and lower income from TV income etc.

So like the Conference AGM when a team must be out of administration? Would you count Bolton in the same way?

So Bolton wouldn't have been accepted as relegated into L1 and Bury not as promoted into L1 at end of 2018/19.

So to keep 24 teams in L1, this would have saved Plymouth and Walsall (21st and 22nd), and to keep 24 teams in L2, nobody gets relegated to the Conference?

Or perhaps would you not 'promote' Bury, but promote for instance the losing play-off finalist from L2?

 

[PQ]

"a team has gone down to League 2 when they should of probably kept their place in league 1" - Plymouth

 

[outsidethebox]

Regarding the housing plan, I noticed Millmore was still standing when we visited the NewYork in the cup a few seasons back so maybe some restrictions aren't that easy to get round