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Doesn't it have a requirement to be racist and over 65 as well? :)

Typical snowflake, remainer, leftist, loser comment. ? ? ?

They obviously appeal to enough folk to win.
Yes win, no prizes for second or "trying" ................get back to how real life should be. ??(y)
 
Update :-
Starmer, Nandy, Phillips, Long- Bailey all have got the required backing/ votes from PLP to go to the next stage.... its not looking too good for the others at the moment
 
Lisa Nandy for me. Always speaks well. Could bring unity to the party.
If they elect Long Bailey it would be political suicide and they would have no chance of winning an election.
 
Lisa Nandy for me. Always speaks well. Could bring unity to the party.
If they elect Long Bailey it would be political suicide and they would have no chance of winning an election.
Talk yesterday was that Nandy performed really well the in the hustings held for MPs - one comment was she performed like a Prime Minister. Pinch of salt and all that, but Nandy did surprise a few people.
 
I think they all surprise a lot of people.
The problem they have is that Keir Starmer won’t have broad appeal nor will Long-Bailey
Caroline Flint would have hit the spot I think. They could well take years to resurface.
We need a strong opposition and we haven’t got one
 
I dont know enough about the candidates to have an opinion on who I would want, I guess that shows how disillusioned I am with the labour party. From what I have seen of Thornberry though i reckon if she became party leader you could rename labour "extinction rebellion!
 
I dont know enough about the candidates to have an opinion on who I would want, I guess that shows how disillusioned I am with the labour party. From what I have seen of Thornberry though i reckon if she became party leader you could rename labour "extinction rebellion!
Or just extinct ? ;)
 
Are there any socialist on here that actually care who is labour leader? Doesn't matter who they have as leader from the current shortlist. They are all flogging a dead horse.
 
Man, when The Independent is writing articles like this about you, you know things aren't going so well:

I guess the writer's just feeling despondent that we're now stuck with at least 5 years of BoJo doing what he wants, when he wants because Corbyn & Labour couldn't get their act together (he's not alone).

If Labour don't get their act together now, and realise that the only path to power runs through the centrist wing of their party, then they're doomed.
 
Thornbury squirming on Andrew Marr was a sight to behold....... here and Lewis are out the backdoor IMHO.
agree ... both thornbury and Lewis wont get enough support from PLP to progress .... IMO initially itll be between Starmer, Nandy, Phillips & Long-Bailey ... with the latter probably being the least well backed? ...we'll see over the next week or so
 
It looks like Burgon doesn't have the votes to be in the reckoning for Deputy Leader. I'm absolutely gutted
 
IMO the 'real' (old style) Labour party ceased to exist under Blair

Therein lie`s Labours problem(s).

The "old style" party based on Union backing from mass market manufacturing industry (car`s, coal,steel etc) is gone, dead, finished.

Employment has moved on (rightly or wrongly) very few folk are in "jobs for life" these days.

That "middle ground" that Blair dragged the party towards is where it needs to be.

Sadly JC then ripped it to the more extreme left....... and suffered the consequences.
 
Therein lie`s Labours problem(s).

The "old style" party based on Union backing from mass market manufacturing industry (car`s, coal,steel etc) is gone, dead, finished.

Employment has moved on (rightly or wrongly) very few folk are in "jobs for life" these days.

That "middle ground" that Blair dragged the party towards is where it needs to be.

Sadly JC then ripped it to the more extreme left....... and suffered the consequences.
And with the party supporters as composed, they don't look like they want to find the middle ground anytime soon.

The biggest surprise that I have found with Labour in the past few years is how they have stopped relating to normal working class people and their views. I never thought I'd see that day - we all know the Tories can go off on a policy wonk and will do again because that is how the party is. I guess I had preconceptions that Labour always were the voice for the working classes
 
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